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Wait, what? How?

Well the AKP has replaced a lot of the judges in the country with their own judges. But not all of them so far, so ordinary judges have their sentences that are not appreciated by the government overruled by pro government judges. Needless to say that the judicary is no long impartial and independent.
 
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Ther is still be needed to clean the court.... I hope somebody shot two of them.
 
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As I've pointed out previously, U.S. law enforcement knows there's some questionable stuff associated with Gulen-supported institutions here in the U.S. However, Turkey isn't supplying information needed for more aggressive prosecutions. I suspect that's because Erdogan and Gulen were allied at the time and doing so would make Erdogan look bad, or because Erdogan is now trying to take control of them.

As for Gulen himself, he shouldn't be extradited until there's a pile of evidence supporting the most serious possible charges against him because under the U.S.-Turkey extradition treaty there's no room for discovery afterwards: under the treaty you can't extradite him for a minor fraud and clobber him with treason afterwards.

Still....do you really think that just this one bad apple spoiled the whole barrel?
Pff i bet even you yourself dont believe this, the evidence is overwhelming, US has other reasons not to extract him not the official reason of ''not enough evidence''.
 
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Turkish Prosecutors Want to Imprison American Pastor for Life
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BY BRIDGET JOHNSON MARCH 15, 2018

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Turkish prosecutors are seeking what would amount to a life sentence for a North Carolina pastor held on false coup-related charges.


Andrew Brunson was charged by the Turkish government with attempting to destroy the country's constitutional order and overthrow their parliament. Brunson has been sitting behind bars since last year, swept up in President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan's engulfing purge of perceived enemies. He has lost more than 50 pounds in custody.

Brunson and his wife, Norine, raised their family in Turkey and ministered through the Protestant Izmir Resurrection Church in the Aegean coast city. In October 2016, they found a note on their door telling them to report to the migration management office for what they thought would be a visit connected to their visa renewal. Instead, officials detained the couple.

Norine was eventually released and allowed to stay in the country. The pastor, though, was sent to jail in December 2016 on a hazy accusation of "membership in an armed terrorist organization."

The indictment this week charges that Brunson is linked to Pennsylvania-based cleric Fethullah Gülen, the Erdoğan opponent blamed for the July 2016 coup attempt. The Turkish government has rounded up tens of thousands of people since then, using broad false claims of Gülen links to go after political foes.

Erdoğan has made clear that he wants a trade. “They want a pastor [Brunson] from us, you have a pastor [Gülen], too. Extradite him so that we can prosecute him," he said in September.

Pro-Erdoğan media have claimed that prosecutors have a 2010 recording of Brunson referring to a 2016 coup attempt as an "earthquake." Pro-Erdoğan media have also wildly claimed that Brunson is a CIA operative who would have been promoted to chief of the agency if the coup attempt had been successful. One Pro-Erdoğan paper dubbed Brunson "Rambo Pastor."

The prosecutor in the Aegean province of İzmir has asked for a 35-year sentence for 50-year-old Brunson. The court have 15 days to accept the indictment and move forward with prosecution.

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At a press conference alongside Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu in Ankara last month, now-former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said the U.S. continues "to have serious concerns about the detention of local employees of our mission in Turkey and about cases against U.S. citizens who have been arrested under the state of emergency."

"We will continue to engage with our Turkish counterparts to seek a satisfactory resolution to these cases, and we call upon Turkey to release Pastor Andrew Brunson and other U.S. citizens whom we believe are being unjustly detained," Tillerson said. "With regard to Serkan Gölge, we believe his release through the appeals process would be both just and appropriate."

A NASA scientist working on the U.S. mission to Mars, Serkan Gölge was visiting his parents in Turkey in July 2016 when he was arrested in Erdoğan's engulfing post-coup sweeps. Turkish authorities, claiming his NASA security card meant he has CIA links, threw him in solitary confinement and only let the physicist be seen by a U.S. consular official this October. Family later discovered through court documents that Serkan's sister's brother-in-law had been the tipster who turned in the NASA researcher over a family land dispute.

Gölge was recently sentenced to 7.5 years in prison. He is married with two sons and has been a U.S. citizen since 2011.

Çavuşoğlu replied that Turkey's judicial system "does not receive any direction from any other third country or a political intervention from within."

"The appeal process is open. You can go all the way up to the constitutional court," he said. "We do have an individual application system to the constitutional court and even the European Court of Human Rights."

State Department press secretary Heather Nauert said U.S. consular officials have been able to visit Brunson three times: Aug. 24, Sept. 18, and Feb. 6.
Tit for Tat. He will not be the last.
 
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Which is not acceptable. playing tit for tat with ordinary ppls lives is abhorrent, if they are innocent of course. IF RTE has the balls he should try to go after ppl who can really start something.
 
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I dont think anyone is keen on joining EU since realitically speaking its never gonna happen but a lot people want the reforms that the negotiations bring with them.

Thats kinda stupid. So these "liberals" want to reform turkey by applying to join the eu without the intention of joining it. Ok thats seriously retarded lol. Lets hope the eu puts an end to this fiasco.
 
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Thats kinda stupid. So these "liberals" want to reform turkey by applying to join the eu without the intention of joining it. Ok thats seriously retarded lol. Lets hope the eu puts an end to this fiasco.
It’s not retarded if they want the conditions that come with joining the EU. If a liberal doesn’t want the death penalty to be in Turkey. Then joining the EU is a way to get that law in Turkey. I don’t see how that’s retarded.
 
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Thats kinda stupid. So these "liberals" want to reform turkey by applying to join the eu without the intention of joining it. Ok thats seriously retarded lol. Lets hope the eu puts an end to this fiasco.
I think you dont understand the point here, Turkey isnt gonna join EU even if all chapters were fulfilled 100% there are EU states that are gonna veto against it and people know this yet most would agree to continue the negotiations for the reforms.
 
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I think you dont understand the point here, Turkey isnt gonna join EU even if all chapters were fulfilled 100% there are EU states that are gonna veto against it and people know this yet most would agree to continue the negotiations for the reforms.

No, no i clearly understand this :D And i dont like that at all because its pathetic. The way u want to reform the country that is not the right thing to do.

I hope we take back the EU application and leave NATO as well. The "western" centric folks should afterwards live with it.
 
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