Turkish Politics & Internal Affairs

[ayesha.a]

It didn't work out last year.

Why not? Was it because:

1) The elections were fixed?

or

2) More people wanted him in than out?

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

InshaAllah Turkey will move on even with more determination. One thong has become clear - democratic process has taken deep roots in people's mind. You can't just take it away. People have seen the benefits of stability.

As for these traitors, they're brainwashed followers of Fethullah Gulen. Turkish version of suicide bombers one might say. Its how it works:

• Gulen has funds of billion of dollars. He is a good preacher and collects zekat, sedaqet etc.
• Lots of boarding schools were set up by him. Children from poor families are raised there. for university students, free housing/food are provided.
• This org is a close knit mafia. Everybody spies on everyone else. strict chain of command is maintained. Brain washing is done by continuously bombarding with his ideologies.
• What they think of Gulen: (1) He has supernatural powers (Nauzubillah), (2) he is like Messih (Nauzubillah), (3) he is like Kainat Imam (leader of the universe - Nazubillah), (4) he can talk to the Prophet (PBUH) any time he likes through dreams (Nauzubillah), (5) He has some special relationship with Allah (Nazubillah), etc. etc.
• Folks raised in this process are placed in government/judiciary/police jobs sometimes through fraud, exam question leaks etc. they have people everywhere. They help only each other no matter how immoral it is.
• Officers and JCO/NCOs from Gulen Terrorist Network, when time comes, can break the chain of command and follow their own chain of command issued from Gulen's high council.
• Gulen and high council have been residing in Pennsylvania since 1997.
• Numerous folks were deceived by him, including me, at different point in life. I have been having a very high idea about him and his org/movement till they openly tried to oust Reis Erdo'an by arresting him. Elhamdulillah, everything is crystal clear now.
• As for the die-hard brain washed folks involved in the recent uprising, some are already dead, and others will be hanged and die in disgrace. Still, it won't be a lesson for the other suicide bombers for they have sold their souls to Sheytan.
• As for Gulen and his high council, they're doing very well and must be working on plan xxx. Their ultimate goal is to become the leaders of the Muslim World.
• As for Reis Erdo'an, he will continue destroying these modern day Hasan al-Saba and their assassins hiding in the dens. He has no other choice. According to him, he is on this path wearing Kefen..

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

The "overthrow" could have been through the ballot box.

This is not difficult if it has army and nation support. Look our coup, even in 1999, it was not bloody coup. 111 brigade, just 2 dozen army personals, while not a single man came on street against army coup.
Its all depends on support . Today it has majority support with Erdogon, and they themselves are responsible for today and future.

 

[ayesha.a]

This is not difficult if it has army and nation support. Look our coup, even in 1999, it was not bloody coup. 111 brigade, just 2 dozen army personals, while not a single man came on street against army coup.
Its all depends on support . Today it has majority support with Erdogon, and they themselves are responsible for today and future.

With or without public support, an army can take over a country. But it is not good for the society or the nation. Government should be elected by will of the people, not by brute force. The moral legitimacy of the rulers is derived from the consent of the ruled.

If everybody in Turkey wanted Erdogan out, it was as easy as pressing a button at election time.

 

[litman]

the US reaction and the kind of news coverage CNN was doing it seems to be a bad day for US. although i hate erdogan for his policies in syria but the recent tilt of his towards russia could be a matter of displeasure for US.
turkey is a lot weaker today . the division in the military has become obvious.

This is not difficult if it has army and nation support. Look our coup, even in 1999, it was not bloody coup. 111 brigade, just 2 dozen army personals, while not a single man came on street against army coup.
Its all depends on support . Today it has majority support with Erdogon, and they themselves are responsible for today and future.

there is a huge difference in the attempted coup in turkey and that of 99 which was led by the highest ranking officer .NS failed to create a divide between the various army sections .

 

[Kakaspai]

US is doing the same with turkey what it did with Pakistan and taliban.

 

[IblinI]

Do you have any knowledge about the situation in my country?

Hi,i would like to know what is the current situation in your country,is Kemalism no longer supported by the vast majority?

 

[Saithan]

Kemalism has nothing to do with it. The people support democracy.

 

[Dawood Ibrahim]

Alhamduillah nothing happened and im happy Turkish people had the guts to stand for their rights

 

[IblinI]

Kemalism has nothing to do with it. The people support democracy.

This world is not that simple,pal.

 

[SouI]

US is doing the same with turkey what it did with Pakistan and taliban.

Oh look! Another ignorant talking out of his azz while actually knowing anything! What a surprise!!

 

[Saithan]

This world is not that simple,pal.

Wouldn't that mean your question in the first place was too simple ?

 

[Aero]

Why not? Was it because:

1) The elections were fixed?

or

2) More people wanted him in than out?

Seat change was there because a lot of people fled war torn part of turkey & fixing probably was there so turning tide in favor.

 

[IblinI]

Wouldn't that mean your question in the first place was too simple ?

I asked the question as an outsider,but you give me the word of democracy which is just way too "simple".

 

[nadeemkhan110]

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Image captionPresident Erdogan (centre) said the coup-plotters would pay a heavy price

Some 2,839 soldiers, including high-ranking officers, have been arrested over an attempted coup that is now over, says Turkey's PM Binali Yildirim.

In a night he called a "black stain on Turkish democracy", he said 161 people had been killed and 1,440 wounded.

Explosions and gunfire were heard in Ankara, Istanbul and elsewhere overnight and thousands of Turks heeded President Erdogan's call to rise up against the coup-plotters.

It is not clear who is behind the coup.

President Recep Tayyip Erdogan blamed a "parallel structure", in a clear reference to Fethullah Gulen, a powerful but reclusive US-based Muslim cleric he accuses of fomenting unrest.

However, in a statement, Mr Gulen rejected any suggestion he had links to the events, saying he condemned "in the strongest terms, the attempted military coup in Turkey".

Image captionThe surrender of soldiers in Istanbul was captured live on television

International reaction

In pictures: Turkey coup attempt

Why did Turkish coup plot fail?

Events began on Friday evening when tanks took up positions on two bridges over the Bosphorus Strait in Istanbul, blocking it to traffic. Troops were seen on the streets and low-flying military jets were filmed over Ankara.

Shortly after, a faction of the army released a statement saying that a "peace council" was running the country, and there would be a curfew and martial law.

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Media caption"Here in Turkey there is confusion", reports the BBC's Katy Watson
The group said it had launched the coup "to ensure and restore constitutional order, democracy, human rights and freedoms".

It said that the democratic and secular rule of law had been eroded by the current government, and there would be a new constitution.

President Erdogan was in the south-west holiday resort of Marmaris at the time. He made a televised address, via his mobile phone, urging people to take to the streets to oppose the uprising.

He then flew on to Istanbul, saying Marmaris had been bombed after he left.

In a speech at Istanbul airport, Mr Erdogan said: "What is being perpetrated is a treason and a rebellion. They will pay a heavy price."

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Image captionMr Erdogan spoke to CNN Turk via Facetime, urging supporters to oppose the coup

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Image captionThere were fierce clashes overnight in Istanbul and Ankara

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Image captionMany people were injured
Outbreaks of violence
The Turkish parliament and presidential buildings in Ankara were attacked. At least one bomb hit the parliament complex. MPs were believed to be hiding in shelters.

Gunfire was also heard outside Istanbul police headquarters and tanks were said to be stationed outside Istanbul airport.

Broadcaster CNN Turk was temporarily taken off air after soldiers entered the building and tried to take it over. CNN Turk later tweeted a photo of soldiers being arrested by police.

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Mike Baddeley, on holiday in Marmaris, said he was woken by "a very large explosion, followed by, it seemed like one or two helicopters flying above our heads... with machine gun fire".

In the morning, he saw armed men in military fatigues walking around the hotel, but no further violence.

There were reports of fierce clashes in Taksim Square in the centre of Istanbul, and gunfire and explosions were heard near the square.

One of the helicopters being flown by rebels was shot down by government troops in Ankara.

Sporadic gunfire was still being reported in some areas by morning.


What is happening now?
Prime Minister Yildirim said the situation was now "completely under control" and the government's commanders were now back in charge.

Earlier, the acting military chief of staff Umit Dundar said officers from the air force, the military police and armoured units had been mainly involved in the coup attempt.

He said that although the chief of staff had been rescued, several military commanders were still being held hostage.

Around 200 unarmed soldiers have left Turkey's military headquarters in the capital Ankara and surrendered to police, the state-run Anadolu news agency says.

Earlier, dramatic images showed dozens of soldiers walking away from their tanks with their hands up on one of Istanbul's Bosphorus bridges, after they had closed it off to traffic all night.

World reaction
In Washington, President Barack Obama urged all parties in Turkey to support the "democratically elected government".

Nato, of which Turkey is a member, called for "full respect" for Turkey's democratic institutions.

European Council President Donald Tusk said the country was "a key partner for the European Union" and called for a "swift return to Turkey's constitutional order".

Russia said it was deeply concerned, saying "the flare-up of the domestic political situation against the backdrop of the existing terrorist threats in this country and the armed conflict in the region brings a heightened risk to international and regional stability".

Iran said events in Turkey proved "that a coup d'etat has no place and is doomed to fail in our region".

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Image captionErdogan supporters have been celebrating the surrender of soldiers in Istanbul

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Image captionSurrendered soldiers had to be protected by police officers from Erdogan supporters
Turkey's military coups

• 1997 - also known as "post-modern coup". Turkish military intervention leads to resignation of Islamist prime minister Necmettin Erbakan.

• 1980 - Military coup following armed conflict between right-wing and left-wing groups in the 1970s

• 1971 - Military coup known as the "coup by memorandum", which the military delivered instead of sending out tanks
• 1960 - Coup by group of young military officer outside chain of command, against the democratically-elected Democrat Party

Source: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36813924