Turkish Peace Operations in Syria (Operation Olive Branch) Updates & Discussions

[Mucahit]

In some towns people support Ahrar and FSA, in some towns people support Al Qaeda. Its mixed. And even if all the people support Al Qaeda, it really doesnt matter. We have an Army, there are terrorists. We should finish them even if every single person in idlib protest us. If we won't finish Al Qaeda, then PKK will and they will reach Mediterranian sea.

As lf we don't have enough enemies already with all the refugees in Turkey, AQ could easily make bombings as retaliation so is it really worth it?

These idiots were doomed to fail because of their stupidity, let's face it a lot of Syrians in that area support groups like ISIS and AQ what are you gonna do about that? At this point, there's nothing we can do Assad and Russia will take Idlib eventually...We should just focus on what will happen to all those people because if anything happens they might once again flood into Turkey like they did in 2015 and we end up with what 7 million Syrians?

l don't think PKK will ever reach Mediterranian sea that's a utopia for them in any scenario but like always we ignore what's happening in front of us, %90 of the Syrian border is controlled by them yet we can't touch them.

 

[SouI]

Inshallah putintin is wrong we cant lose Idlib to them.

We should help Assad take Idlib or else it will be PKK's!

I cannot believe Erdogan is too blind to see the basic game that is going on in the ME.. Saddam Hussein was tricked by USA the same way. USA was supposedly making plans "with him" so he thought he was something special and USA was behind him all the way.. Turned out USA was only using him to create the basis of getting the rid of him.

Same thing with Erdogan. Those people told Erdogan:"Duh, you are one of us! We are overthrowing those governments for the benefit of you too! You are the EşBaşkan of BOP! You are with us man, we got yo back! Now look at this good natural-gas pipeline project.. We need to bring it to Turkey so Turkey's economy will rise and your popularity will be maximized! You will be even bigger than Atatürk! Only thing ahead of us is this united Syria.. Lets divide it together partner and it will have YOUR puppet government afterwards BUHAHAHAHAHAA!!!"

Turns out it was all for creating a terrorist state out of that region and getting the rid of Erdogan and his government in the meantime..

US Golden Rule:Always get the rid of the puppets that you use to achieve a geopolitical goal afterwards.

 

[Khagan1923]

In some towns people support Ahrar and FSA, in some towns people support Al Qaeda. Its mixed. And even if all the people support Al Qaeda, it really doesnt matter. We have an Army, there are terrorists. We should finish them even if every single person in idlib protest us. If we won't finish Al Qaeda, then PKK will and they will reach Mediterranian sea.

The people there support those who protect them from Assad. The only real protection against Assad And ypg scum can only come from Turkey. Look at the area under Turkish control its peaceful at its gets and the condition are better than anywhere. FSA just has to be better at perimeter defending against ypg terrorist blowing themselves up in azaz thats the only thing and those only happened once or twice. ypg oppresses the shit out of the areas it occupies, there were supposedly election even in 2014, 3 years already and nothing the western media even used it as propaganda to fuel the publics support for those terrorists but now you hear nothing about the shitty condition in those areas. They dont have any money, or even real source for water and electricity.

 

[kartal1]

We should help Assad take Idlib or else it will be PKK's!

I cannot believe Erdogan is too blind to see the basic game that is going on in the ME.. Saddam Hussein was tricked by USA the same way. USA was supposedly making plans "with him" so he thought he was something special and USA was behind him all the way.. Turned out USA was only using him to create the basis of getting the rid of him.

Same thing with Erdogan. Those people told Erdogan:"Duh, you are one of us! We are overthrowing those governments for the benefit of you too! You are the EşBaşkan of BOP! You are with us man, we got yo back! Now look at this good natural-gas pipeline project.. We need to bring it to Turkey so Turkey's economy will rise and your popularity will be maximized! You will be even bigger than Atatürk! Only thing ahead of us is this united Syria.. Lets divide it together partner and it will have YOUR puppet government afterwards BUHAHAHAHAHAA!!!"

Turns out it was all for creating a terrorist state out of that region and getting the rid of Erdogan and his government in the meantime..

US Golden Rule:Always get the rid of the puppets that you use to achieve a geopolitical goal afterwards.

For now I think we must concentrate on the threats like PKK, DEASH, HTS with coordination with Russia and back the pro turkish FSA (our proxies) to the moment where serious negotiations hold point. I am sure that Assad will stay and we must concentrate on what Syria must be looking before the end of the fighting. Syria in my point of view must get rid of HTS, DEASH and minimize the control of PYD in North Syria trough fight or negotiations. We will not be able to get rid of them in this early phase because there is local support and US bases there. When we finish this we must see Syria clear of DEASH and HTS and Idlib controlled by us with pro Turkey FSA. Idlib must be the capital of the opposition in Syria. Then there must be negotiations between Assad and the opposition together with Turkey, Russia and Iran and there the destiny of Syria must be decided. Before that the US backed FSA and the power of PYD minimized as much as there can be. We can see some of my points with the no fighting zones and one of the zones is Idlib. This shows how important Idlib is and that we must keep Idlib and the opposition to the point of negotiations. And after that there can always be some scenario that can benefit all of the sides.

 

[SouI]

For now I think we must concentrate on the threats like PKK, DEASH, HTS with coordination with Russia and back the pro turkish FSA (our proxies) to the moment where serious negotiations hold point. I am sure that Assad will stay and we must concentrate on what Syria must be looking before the end of the fighting. Syria in my point of view must get rid of HTS, DEASH and minimize the control of PYD in North Syria trough fight or negotiations. We will not be able to get rid of them in this early phase because there is local support and US bases there. When we finish this we must see Syria clear of DEASH and HTS and Idlib controlled by us with pro Turkey FSA. Idlib must be the capital of the opposition in Syria. Then there must be negotiations between Assad and the opposition together with Turkey, Russia and Iran and there the destiny of Syria must be decided. Before that the US backed FSA and the power of PYD minimized as much as there can be. We can see some of my points with the no fighting zones and one of the zones is Idlib. This shows how important Idlib is and that we must keep Idlib and the opposition to the point of negotiations. And after that there can always be some scenario that can benefit all of the sides.

The longer Idlib stays in the hands of the opposition, the likelier it gets for PKK to invade that area.

That is the kind of risk that cannot be tolerated having.

 

[kartal1]

The longer Idlib stays in the hands of the opposition, the likelier it gets for PKK to invade that area.

That is the kind of risk that cannot be tolerated having.

We must not see this as they can invade Idlib exactly the opposite they must live with the fear we can invade Afrin like the time we are in now.

 

[Bismarck]

USA stops supporting of Syrian rebels and delivering of arms. Putin has won: http://mobil.n-tv.de/politik/Die-USA-ueberlassen-Assad-das-Feld-article19946095.html

 

[Bismarck]

Does it applies to YPG also?

 

[Mucahit]

Does it applies to YPG also?

Obviously not.

 

[TheCamelGuy]

Abadi asked Turkey to widraw from bashiqa now that MOsul OP is finished

 

[SouI]

Abadi asked Turkey to widraw from bashiqa now that MOsul OP is finished

I think we should withdraw. Our presenxe seems to work AGAINST our interests instead of for them.

We should support unified Iraq and unified Syria.

 

[Fenasi Kerim]

It is all to convenient this fighting started just now as there are plans for the Afrin op... I remember the US tried to stir some infighting among the ES op with their presence and proxies.

Some thing tells me HTS got a word from their masters in Washington and Riyadh.

We need to be really careful on how this one plays out, Idlib falling to anyone outside Turkey or SAA would be a disaster for us.

Its sad all our proxies are the most incompetent among incompetents and our soldiers lives are put at risk every day fighting along side these guys, i'm no military expert but can imagine the frustration.

 

[T-123456]

I think we should withdraw. Our presenxe seems to work AGAINST our interests instead of for them.

We should support unified Iraq and unified Syria.

Let them clean out the PKK first,then we'll move out.
Abadi needs to give us some guaranties and in case he cant or wont finish the PKK,we should be able to come back.
Btw,we always supported a unified Iraq and we still do.

 

[blondeturkish]

Let them clean out the PKK first,then we'll move out.
Abadi needs to give us some guaranties and in case he cant or wont finish the PKK,we should be able to come back.
Btw,we always supported a unified Iraq and we still do.

so supporting barzani is supporting a unified Iraq.

 

[T-123456]

so supporting barzani is supporting a unified Iraq.

No,it is not,where did you get that from?