Turkish Peace Operations in Syria (Operation Olive Branch) Updates & Discussions

[TurkeyForever]

You must be new here. Shepherd is an Arab. Same as this kedkesenfare(same account).

Not that active been busy with work a lot.

So these two are arabs that live in Turkey?

This is what we call "Hain" (treason) when they try to lower Turks and raise arabs.
It's similar to how armenians sided with russians in world war 1, only this one is on a "propaganda" level only right now.

By the way where is Sinan he is my hemseri.

 

[kartal1]

I tought Cay Bahcesi and Ulke Yonetimi threads were for those mindless chats where you insult each other and then get banned. Please dont ruin this important thread with the political and ideological clash bullshit.

 

[KingWest]

Can you guys stop insulting each other and focus on the thread. Is this operation going to resume, the PKK are taking more and more land around us we almost have no border with any friendly faction.

I don't believe the operation is going to resume. Our leaders are lacking the courage to do so, or they are traitors. A Kurdish state in Syria and Iraq will be a reality in a couple of months.

 

[kartal1]

I don't believe the operation is going to resume. Our leaders are lacking the courage to do so, or they are traitors. A Kurdish state in Syria and Iraq will be a reality in a couple of months.

It all matters on what Russia and Iran can do together with us or what they can do together with PKK. If the relations between the three states Russia, Iran and Turkey are strong enough and if these three can have mutual interests in the region the balance of power can change really quick. PKK just like us are working with all the sides when they can get profit from that but I dont believe that they can maintain the situation like that for long enough. It just depends on Turkey. If Turkey is well with Russia and Iran then PKK will not be a problem. If Turkey is in bad relation with Russia and Iran they will use PKK to pressure us. Its just like we use KRG to pressure Iraq and Iran on matters that are important for us.

 

[kartal1]

http://www.sabah.com.tr/gundem/2017/08/25/afrin-sinira-buyuk-sevkiyat?f=sm M114!??!

 

[Fenasi Kerim]

Seriously wtf is up with all these howitzers, they planning to turn Afrin into rubble? No. I've seen 0 tanks, apcs, commandos or fsa, trying to figure out the logic here with speriodic deployments, just move them all when your ready no?

Or is it just to fool the people.

 

[kartal1]

Seriously wtf is up with all these howitzers, they planning to turn Afrin into rubble? No. I've seen 0 tanks, apcs, commandos or fsa, trying to figure out the logic here with speriodic deployments, just move them all when your ready no?

Or is it just to fool the people.

With almost every deployment of howitzers there were limited numbers of ACV-15 like vehicles but I dont understand the high number of howitzers to. From psychological point of view those deployments can serve to the public like "We are not done yet/We are still active there" and it can be effective way of damaging the moral of the enemy by inserting fear like feels. If that much howitzers are to be used in operation against Afrin you can rain hell over them but if we have the fact that there are a lot of civilians I say they will not risk it. I can see as targets to our artillery the entrenchments and the defensive line on the border with ES area and to the south. We know that they worked hard to build it and its guarded very well. From what I can see the way they are building it is perfect for ATGM positioning, heavy machine guns etc but if we add the number of artillery pieces that we have in the area its just useless. The area there is very open on places so if there is plan for operation maybe they would start it with massive bombardments by artillery over the defense lines, detection and precise strikes by Air Force and armed UAVs until they retreat from the lines giving the opportunity of our forces to move forward. That way the psychological strike will be massive they will walk and shit in the same time but it will not be very cheap because in the way I imagine the involvement of that number of howitzers and artillery systems massive amounts of ammo would be wasted. Other option that comes to my mind is operation against Manbij. They can take them to Kilis and then to send them to ES territory according to the needs. I think the last option is very hard despite the situation right now but Its indeed very interesting to see that high number of artillery that is in the area. Also I think that if there is operation against Afrin it would not be operation against Afrin itself. The most positive outcome is to take Tal Rifat, the border towns and the towns of Al Mabatla and Sharanli. We can take also Minnigh airport and the main road passing trough it and add the airport as one of the center bases in ES. Let the civilians stay under ES control or let them flee to Afrin center or if they want let them flee from Assad held territory to other parts of PKK controlled area. By taking the border towns we can assure the security of the border areas and minimize the cross border passing by illegal refugees, smuglers or terrorists. We are practically making a buffer zone between terrorist controlled area and Turkey with that move. Oh how pink are those dreams.

What we must do?

https://twitter.com/x/status/901133905331400705

 

[[TR]AHMET]

Turkish Religious Foundation (Diyanet) restorated more than 66 mosques at Azez, Mare, El-Bab, El-Rai and Aktarin

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1581934601837959

Btw Arabs and Turkmans rising against PYD because PYD looting houses of other ethnic groups and force them to migration, Also PYD close mosques, forbidden Arabic and Turkish language just Kurdish language allowed also they gonna give Kurdish lessons at schools as Mandatory language.

https://twitter.com/x/status/901047260426809344

This US supported Terrorists organization make many injustice at Syria, if they create so called Kurdistan they gonna assimilate all the region.

 

[KingWest]

Turkish Religious Foundation (Diyanet) restorated more than 66 mosques at Azez, Mare, El-Bab, El-Rai and Aktarin

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1581934601837959

Btw Arabs and Turkmans rising against PYD because PYD looting houses of other ethnic groups and force them to migration, Also PYD close mosques, forbidden Arabic and Turkish language just Kurdish language allowed also they gonna give Kurdish lessons at schools as Mandatory language.

https://twitter.com/x/status/901047260426809344

This US supported Terrorists organization make many injustice at Syria, if they create so called Kurdistan they gonna assimilate all the region.

And our government is sitting, and watching this happening before our own noses.

 

[Fenasi Kerim]

There protesting, there country is under invasion, majority of them look like able bodied men, they don't join the ES FSA. But the sons of Turks have to die to defend them, then they will say "get out of our lands" in 40 years.

What a situation we have put ourselves in.

 

[TurkeyForever]

The only solution to Syria as the situation is right now is to HELP Assad, to regain FULL control of his country.

It has to keep same territory, then Assad will hold elections and all people will be represented in parliament.

Help Assad = No kurdshitistan

I see no other way. USA (our allies) are helping our enemy terrorist kurds.
Iran and Russia helping Assad, so if we help Assad too US will never achieve it's objective in Syria.

Our leaders should have closed incirlik base in retaliation to US helping terrorists.

More balls needed.

 

[kartal1]

https://twitter.com/x/status/901548853308129280

 

[Fenasi Kerim]

The only solution to Syria as the situation is right now is to HELP Assad, to regain FULL control of his country.

It has to keep same territory, then Assad will hold elections and all people will be represented in parliament.

Help Assad = No kurdshitistan

I see no other way. USA (our allies) are helping our enemy terrorist kurds.
Iran and Russia helping Assad, so if we help Assad too US will never achieve it's objective in Syria.

Our leaders should have closed incirlik base in retaliation to US helping terrorists.

More balls needed.

This is the problem...

We can't help Assad, it would look embarrassing. It's gone to far, if Assad stays in power we will have a Syria that is forever our enemy. It is best we advocate a new leader, I.e we want Assad gone without making to much fuss over who replaces him, so regime stays, Assad is out.

Plus helping Assad now will only increase the likelyhood of an attack in Turkey by radicals, the FSA and like will be millions thrown into the drain and we will never be trusted by any proxy in the region again. Much as I hate working with these guys, look at Iran how successfully they use proxies, because they actually support them to the end fully unlike us we do things 50%, we should have armed and organised Turkmens and friendly Arab & Kurdish tribes a longggg time ago.

Even if the above were not to happen, and we started to help Assad, it is to late, US would bomb them and make eastern Syria a no go zone for the Syrian Army, it already has in some places.

What we should be doing right now is operations to cut off any further advances by the PKK/SDF, including painting the whole corridor from Idlib and Afrin to Manbic red and white.

The biggest mistake and betrayal was to let in aid and support to our enemies when they were cornered at Ayn Al Arab. We literally turned them into "heros" in western eyes with our own hands.

I hope we start making real politics and not continue on the failed path of the gavatoglu foreign policy, look where it got us.

 

[TurkeyForever]

We can't help Assad, it would look embarrassing.

Rather embarrassing than leave a big kurdshitistan to our south for our children.

Some times it's wiser to say "sorry".

Yeah helping kobane was messed up, our poiticians saved the ypg. That was clearly treason.

 

[Hamzza]

Rather embarrassing than leave a big kurdshitistan to our south for our children.

Some times it's wiser to say "sorry".

Yeah helping kobane was messed up, our poiticians saved the ypg. That was clearly treason.

That was the biggest mistake we could've ever done. All these gains by YPG were allowed and happened because of us letting them get to kobane. Now we don't know wtf to do, this whole situation is a mess. Our governments foreign policy is trash when it comes to Syria and Iraq.

We don't have to support Assad directly but there can be cooperation's. Plus, we're cooperating more with Russia and Iran than we are with Assad at all since it's Russia and Iran that are the ones controlling Assad and are the bigger powers in that region. Working with them is basically indirectly "working" with Assad.

But besides all of that, we need to take action one way or another as soon as possible. All we're hearing is "soon, possibly, it's coming, we're ready, etc etc.".