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Trump and Putin Agree to Seek Syria Cease-Fire

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/02/world/europe/trump-putin-syria.html?_r=0

and last not least

US General Dempsey mentioned severe terror risk in Europe in May / June

http://www.handelsblatt.com/politik...n-grund-fuer-die-terrorwarnung/8593806-2.html

Now make simple ratio :

1. Turkey will do Raqqa operation with US support. YPG / PKK will be useless
2. Turkey will fullfill Manbij operation
3. Clashes with YPG/PKK are for sure
4. Russia will control YPG/PKK in AFRIN
5. PKK/YPG will feel completely betrayed and will loose influence in Syria and maybe in Iraq a bit later
6. DAESH will be deleted in Syria

RESULT : Both PKK and DAESH will revenge with terror attacks, especially PKK will target Europe,
where they are very strong !

That's the reason why President Erdogan repeats warning EU :

" These terrorists will hit you and you will be target "!
 
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It makes no sense to remove YPG/PKK in locations that would favor Barzanistan, the Kurdish problem is not YPG it is their nationalism. Keeping Kurdish rivals means they will be busy with each other, if one has a monopoly over 'Kurdish factions' then they will cause problems for non Kurds.
 
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The mentioned groups are under central command of KCK (PKK) . An official terror organization !

Barzani is the legitime leader of a federative state in IRAQ.

You will see. Turkey is very serious . President Erdogan will tell this Putin tomorrow, then the EU ,later XI Ping and at last Trump .

This is the roadmap for next 2 weeks ! It is necessary so that Turkey will survive and keep his borders .
Otherwise Turkey will be divided. I had a discussion with a US-Professor who is near Fetö, he said to me "There will be a great Kurdistan founded within and outside Turkish borders !"

Turkey knows that and no STATE can stop TURKEY.

S-400 urgent/immediate dlievery deal has for my opinion a high value political character:
" Russia you are not my enemy or threat anymore "!
" Turkey your safety means my future safety"!

And RUSSIA knows if Turkey falls, Russia will loose his whole influence in Mediteranean and Black Sea in future.

You will see surprises and will be shockes and say sooon
alea iacta est

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/turk...dates-discussions.332876/page-48#post-9440694
 
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The mentioned groups are under central command of KCK (PKK) . An official terror organization !

Barzani is the legitime leader of a federative state in IRAQ.

You will see. Turkey is very serious . President Erdogan will tell this Putin tomorrow, then the EU ,later XI Ping and at last Trump .

There won't be an independent Kurdistan anytime soon unless some superpower paves the entire way for them but that won't happen either as that superpower (US) has good relations with Turkey and Iraq which they won't trade off for Kurds whom are landlocked, got less resources and are divided far more than anyone is admitting.

As for KCK/PKK, on conceptual level if they were to be completely replaced by Barzani linked forces that wouldn't solve anything for you. It means a nationalist Kurdish entity under the control of a different Kurdish faction which is your enemy as soon as the situation suits him to 'expand operations' to Turkey which does not have to be militarily, it can be ideology and a game of politics with the support of other global powers.

You forget, during Saddam's time that same Barzani invited Iraqi army into his territory to fight the PUK. As soon as the situation suited him he worked with outsiders against Saddam/Iraq. What makes you think you're different? Given this.. the entire idea of applying barzanistani forces to replace YPG is a dangerous idea, not a solution.

You can say Kurds are not the enemy, Kurdish nationalism however is. Kurdism itself, their identity which if they're serious about means they seek a nation of their own. It is a problem altogether, eventually Syria's situation will change, the ISF (Iraq's forces) are getting stronger and will re-arm. A lot of problems ahead, not exactly the best days ahead for any Kurdish group.
 
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There won't be an independent Kurdistan anytime soon unless some superpower paves the entire way for them but that won't happen either as that superpower (US) has good relations with Turkey and Iraq which they won't trade off for Kurds whom are landlocked, got less resources and are divided far more than anyone is admitting.

As for KCK/PKK, on conceptual level if they were to be completely replaced by Barzani linked forces that wouldn't solve anything for you. It means a nationalist Kurdish entity under the control of a different Kurdish faction which is your enemy as soon as the situation suits him to 'expand operations' to Turkey which does not have to be militarily, it can be ideology and a game of politics with the support of other global powers.

You forget, during Saddam's time that same Barzani invited Iraqi army into his territory to fight the PUK. As soon as the situation suited him he worked with outsiders against Saddam/Iraq. What makes you think you're different? Given this.. the entire idea of applying barzanistani forces to replace YPG is a dangerous idea, not a solution.

You can say Kurds are not the enemy, Kurdish nationalism however is. Kurdism itself, their identity which if they're serious about means they seek a nation of their own. It is a problem altogether, eventually Syria's situation will change, the ISF (Iraq's forces) are getting stronger and will re-arm. A lot of problems ahead, not exactly the best days ahead for any Kurdish group.

Well written. I agree to most of them. I know for sure that Turkey will be later the main intermediate between Bagdad and Federative Region of the Kurds, together with Russia.
I believe that all Iraqis know who destroyed your country completely. USA and European allies.
It was not Russia or Turkey ?
What is now going on is the rest of the devilish CENTCOM plan and the illusion to separate the whole near east in weak small USA , Europe and Israel dependend states, asily to be exploited as before done in the 19th and 20th century.
Against whom are BRIC and SCO founded ? Everybody knows that the devil is on the other side of the Atlantic.
Forget the EU. The flagship is GERMANY and tries to fullfill its imperial dreams of "3. Empire" with economic means.
But that will ruin them finally. EU will collapse, you will see.
The Brits were the first who left "the sinking ship" others will follow.
Don't forget, Germany is "occupied" there exist not peace agreement and it is still a ceasefire after WW2;
Germany trusts the 2+4 Reunion agreement. Theoretical it could be cancelled from the signed countries.
http://germanhistorydocs.ghi-dc.org/sub_document.cfm?document_id=176
There are tens of thousand Yankees present and many military bases existent.
Germany has no constitution up to now. It is only a " Fundamental Law Charta"!
Germany is a puppet state under control of the USA.
And my last remark IRAN is not your friend. Iran uses all terrorist organizations against Barzani and Sunni Irakis. If Iraq can't learn to live peaceful Shia with Sunna Iraqis you will always be instabile and playground of terrorists.
 
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Then most probably not true.

You can't trust press at all. I believe also in Europe press in influenced and sometimes a tool.
Remember, German Press wrote 2 days ago "Juncker said Theresa May lives in an other Galaxy"!
May protested and said "fake news to influence British Elections"!
Then Juncker contested that he said that and German Press was blamed.
 
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No dare to be offensive against to anybody, but yenisafak is more serious and trustable news source than the rest in Turkey. especially than sozcu mewspaper.. :D
 
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No dare to be offensive against to anybody, but yenisafak is more serious and trustable news source than the rest in Turkey. especially than sozcu mewspaper.. :D

In defence affairs they are all stupid amateurs. Read, Arda Mevlütoglu Orko_8 PALAVRADETEKTÖR.
Turkish press claimed that YPG has Tomahawk missiles.

No dare to be offensive against to anybody, but yenisafak is more serious and trustable news source than the rest in Turkey. especially than sozcu mewspaper.. :D

Bro. Sometimes constructive criticism is needed to improve situation and eliminate faults.

If you see somebody crosses at red light the street and you don't warn him, you fail to make your ethic job;
cause he risks his life.
I know in Türkiye the guy could say "sana ne " or take a knife and attack you. Our society is unfortunately very aggressive, remember a guy killed in ADANA six relatives cause they didn't want ask for a girl to marry him.
That was a very simple example.
 
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