Turkish Peace Operations in Syria (Operation Olive Branch) Updates & Discussions

[blondeturkish]

I don't understand what erdogan gets by saying that it dangers the life's of our soldiers . ...

 

[-SINAN-]

I don't understand what erdogan gets by saying that it dangers the life's of our soldiers . ...

Turkey stronkk propaganda for his supporters.

 

[T-Rex]

Turkish forces are so close to Aleppo yet they cannot assist FSA in Aleppo. This is the tragedy.

 

[f1000n]

Would be easier for Turkey to take the friendly approach with both Iraqi and Syrian govs instead of going against them as currently.

 

[Attila the Hun]

How come the Peoples hero and favourite Assad cannot defeat a bunch of desert monkeys(ISIS)?
Either Assad is useless or ISIS are some super strong fighting warriors the world has ever seen !!

 

[f1000n]

How come the Peoples hero and favourite Assad cannot defeat a bunch of desert monkeys(ISIS)?
Either Assad is useless or ISIS are some super strong fighting warriors the world has ever seen !!

Because ISIS aren't a bunch of desert monkeys, they're unfortunately quite good and well organized.

Their 'strategic leaders' as in top leaders are ex republican guards who have war experience with Iran and the 1990-1991 as well as some Chechen leaders who have experience in wars with Russia. Their VBIED's are well armored and carry a heavy load, their fighters are on captagon drugs. They have ATGW weapons, MANPADS etc. People that call them a rag tag group and carry on with an arrogance stance that their military would steam roll IS are usually from countries that aren't in war with IS.

The US described the combat in Fallujah during 2004 the heaviest urban warfare they've seen since the battle of Hue city (Vietnam) and that was against a weak enemy, nothing compared to IS of today.

 

[OguzSenturk]

They have ATGW weapons, MANPADS etc

They didn't have such things in first place, you hand over those weapons to them together with Musul city without any clash. They are still desert monkey, just desert monkeys with Iraqi weapons and Iraqi fighters.

 

[f1000n]

They didn't have such things in first place, you hand over those weapons to them together with Musul city without any clash. They are still desert monkey, just desert monkeys with Iraqi weapons and Iraqi fighters.

About definitely over 90% of their ATGW's are from Syrian stockpiles and western supplied TOW's. Iraq lost very few Kornet missiles to them in Baiji during 2015 and no MANPADS given that the ISF did not have any until after the 2014 collapse.

Before ISI took Raqqa in 2013 and became ISIS, the 'FSA' used to share arms with ISI and work together, the FSA which received weapons from abroad shared many with them. The group was being defeated in Iraq by 2012 but found safe heaven in Syria and a supplier, it grew back.

 

[Attila the Hun]

Because ISIS aren't a bunch of desert monkeys, they're unfortunately quite good and well organized.

Their 'strategic leaders' as in top leaders are ex republican guards who have war experience with Iran and the 1990-1991 as well as some Chechen leaders who have experience in wars with Russia. Their VBIED's are well armored and carry a heavy load, their fighters are on captagon drugs. They have ATGW weapons, MANPADS etc. People that call them a rag tag group and carry on with an arrogance stance that their military would steam roll IS are usually from countries that aren't in war with IS.

The US described the combat in Fallujah during 2004 the heaviest urban warfare they've seen since the battle of Hue city (Vietnam) and that was against a weak enemy, nothing compared to IS of today.

I know. but the world will see it as a rag tag group of a few thousands. We're the laughing stock of the world.
Don't know about you. I am bloody embarrassed.

 

[OguzSenturk]

Before IS took Raqqa

IS is not a Syrian Terror Organisation. It is a IRAQI Terror Organisation. If you could defend your fucking borders, IS couldnt even enter Syria and capture Raqqa, and couldnt kill thousands of civilians in Syria, France,Turkey, Germany, USA etc. But no, you choiced to export your terrorists to neighbor states so you could de-stabilize them, but your terror plan didnt work well, did it ?

 

[f1000n]

I know. but the world will see it as a rag tag group of a few thousands. We're the laughing stock of the world.
Don't know about you. I am bloody embarrassed.

People who don't know anything will always laugh, nothing can be done about that. If the US was on the ground they would take many casualties and need time to clean all those urban environments as well, they didn't face any ATGM threat for their Abrams tanks nor armored VBIED's of this size and in such numbers, IS has running industries.

IS is not a Syrian Terror Organisation. It is a IRAQI Terror Organisation. If you could defend your fucking borders, IS couldnt even enter Syria and capture Raqqa, and couldnt kill thousands of civilians in Syria, France,Turkey, Germany, USA etc. But no, you choiced to export your terrorists to neighbor states so you could de-stabilize them, but your terror plan didnt work well, did it ?

It's a group thriving on an ideology that originates in every Muslim country that descends into chaos. Examples can be found easily in Libya, Syria, Algeria 90's, Waziristan, Afghanistan, Yemen, Somalia, the list doesn't end. Many of ISI leaders who you call Iraqi are actually foreigners, Al Zarqawi the Jordanian had a huge role in its expansion a decade ago.

So you're saying IS is my group and that Iraq is behind this. Syria before their civil war under Assad used to support ISI in Iraq, the supply route of foreign terrorists to Iraq was through Syria before the civil war. The only thing that changed after Syria descended in war is that IS started targeting Syria as well. Several terrorists have been captured years ago admitting their ties to the Syrian intel agency, these vids are still online.

 

[OguzSenturk]

Libya, Syria, Algeria 90's, Waziristan, Afghanistan, Yemen, Somalia, the list doesn't end.

You are confusing Al Qaeda with IS. They are different terror organisations. In fact, they would kill each other if they could share borders, and they literally did in Manbij back in few years ago, Al-Nusra (Al Qaeda) and IS fough over Manbij, IS won. Terror organisations have no brotherhood, they all aim to capture more lands and rule more lands to gain more power and use more power to capture more lands. Do you think FSA will rule Syria peacefully when they defeat Assad? Nope. FSA is not a homogeneus organisation, has dozens of organisation which will fight each other forever after Assad gone. Same with Iraq. What do you think if KRG declare independence? Peshmerge, PUK, PKK etc will fight each other to capture KRG's ownership at least 10 years.

Beside those, that is a fact that if you could defend your borders, Syria and rest of the world wouldnt face with casualties under IS attacks.

 

[Random111]

Would be easier for Turkey to take the friendly approach with both Iraqi and Syrian govs instead of going against them as currently.

Iraq is already lost imo, am not really bothered by that.

 

[f1000n]

Iraq is already lost imo, am not really bothered by that.

Which is the policy of Turkey.. which leaves u in the current situation

You are confusing Al Qaeda with IS. They are different terror organisations. In fact, they would kill each other if they could share borders, and they literally did in Manbij back in few years ago, Al-Nusra (Al Qaeda) and IS fough over Manbij, IS won. Terror organisations have no brotherhood, they all aim to capture more lands and rule more lands to gain more power and use more power to capture more lands. Do you think FSA will rule Syria peacefully when they defeat Assad? Nope. FSA is not a homogeneus organisation, has dozens of organisation which will fight each other forever after Assad gone. Same with Iraq. What do you think if KRG declare independence? Peshmerge, PUK, PKK etc will fight each other to capture KRG's ownership at least 10 years.

You're differentiating between them too much as if they're completely different, they originate from the same root. It started with 'Al Qaeda in Iraq', this developed to some other groups like the shura council. Eventually somewhere in 2006 they declared the establishment of Islamic State Iraq (ISI), only recently they grew apart from AQ. Which doesn't matter much because they originate from the same roots.

Beside those, that is a fact that if you could defend your borders, Syria and rest of the world wouldnt face with casualties under IS attacks.

If you could defend your borders IS would't have thousands of foreign recruits and ammonium nitrate to blow up everything they come across. You see how it works both ways.

 

[Attila the Hun]

Which is the policy of Turkey.. which leaves u in the current situation

We care for our Iraqi friends. We have the same culture with you guys