Turkish Origins.

[Kabira]

Persians are genetically and linguistically close to Northern Indians (a term that includes Pakistanis as well). I rarely confuse a Persian with an Arab, but with Northern Indians I sometimes do.

Not really

Western Iranians have small amount of south asian genes but they cluster closer to other west asians.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

Persians are genetically and linguistically close to Northern Indians (a term that includes Pakistanis as well). I rarely confuse a Persian with an Arab, but with Northern Indians I sometimes do.

Very narrow minded to categorize North Indians, Pakistanis and Persians as a group. It's much easier detect the differences between a Persian and a North Indian rather than an Arab.

Pakistan is heterogeneous, so it depends on which part.

 

[Attila the Hun]

LOL Persians back at again with claiming everything is from Persia/Iran.

Pyramids are from Persia

Carpets is from Persia

Clocks is from Persia

Physics is from Persia

Bellydancing is from Persia

Christianity is from Persia

Judaism is from Persia

Mongols are from Persia

Turks are from Persia

Chechens are from Persia

Islam is from Persia

Gravity was created in Persia

God was created in Persia

Earth is from Persia

The Universe is from Persia

etc,etc

He said 80% of Anatolia is Iranian, this is pathetic. Had he said 10% or whatever , even that is friggin stupid. the guy is a troll. lol

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

Not really

Western Iranians have small amount of south asian genes but they cluster closer to other west asians.

There is literally no such thing as 'South Asian' genes... it would be the same as saying 'Western Hemisphere' genes.

 

[Attila the Hun]

Turks are not a homogeneous people. Anatolia has been and still is, one of the most diverse regions in the world. Although many of the different ethnicity, cultures and peoples have been integrated into a single 'Turkish identity'. There will be people that look like Greeks, Arabs, Persians, Russians, Slavs, Central Asians and ect...

Greeks, Slavs, Romanians etc all plausible. But Persians? I doubt it. . @2800 claimed 80% of Anatolia is Iranian, this is wrong.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

Greeks, Slavs, Romanians etc all plausible. But Persians? I doubt it. . @2800 claimed 80% of Anatolia is Iranian, this is wrong.

Iranic people have a deep footprint in Anatolia, so yes. But 80% is very absurd....

 

[Full Moon]

Very narrow minded to categorize North Indians, Pakistanis and Persians as a group. It's much easier detect the differences between a Persian and a North Indian rather than an Arab.

Pakistan is heterogeneous, so it depends on which part.

Much easier for you. But, it is quite easy for an Arab to recognize the non-Arab features. I didn't mean all of Pakistan, but I meant some parts (e.g. Pashtunes and Persians look very similar).

 

[Aramagedon]

He said 80% of Anatolia is Iranian, this is pathetic. Had he said 10% or whatever , even that is friggin stupid. the guy is a troll. lol

You are completely illiterate.

 

[Attila the Hun]

Iranic people have a deep footprint in Anatolia, so yes. But 80% is very absurd....

Yes, but we are not Persian.

You are completely illiterate.

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Look at the pictures you tard.

 

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LOL Persians back at again with claiming everything is from Persia/Iran.

Pyramids are from Persia

Carpets is from Persia

Clocks is from Persia

Physics is from Persia

Bellydancing is from Persia

Christianity is from Persia

Judaism is from Persia

Mongols are from Persia

Turks are from Persia

Chechens are from Persia

Islam is from Persia

Gravity was created in Persia

God was created in Persia

Earth is from Persia

The Universe is from Persia

etc,etc

One thing is missing in your list.

Role of the Persian King Darius the Great in Building the Ancient Suez Canal

The Canal of the Pharaohs, also called the Ancient Suez Canal or Necho's Canal, is the forerunner of the Suez Canal, constructed in ancient times. It followed a different course than its modern counterpart, by linking the Nile to the Red Sea via the Wadi Tumilat. Work began under the Pharaohs. According to Suez Inscriptions and Herodotus, the first opening of the canal was under Persian king Darius the Great.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canal_of_the_Pharaohs

 

[Anaoshak]

@Attila the Hun

EDIT: Just waned to add this paragraph, In Iranic People, there is an inverse relationship of J2a and R1a in Iranian-speaking groups, with an excess of the latter among the eastern Iranian peoples, and of the former among the Persians.

Yes the earliest evidence of J2 was found in Northern Iran in the Hotu Cave and It is the dominant haplogroup in both Persians in Iran and Turkish people in Anatolia.

But personally, I wouldn't say that 80% of Anatolia is Iranic since you are a mix of people, But the average Turk in Turkey has more Iranic genes in him/her than they do Turkic genes, but to say that it's just Iranic is wrong. Azeris is another story, but since we are talking about Anatolians here,
"Anatolia was home to many different peoples in ancient times who were either natives or settlers and invaders. These different people included the Hittites, Persians, Luwians, Hurrians, Mongols, Greeks, Cimmerians, Galatians, Colchians, Iberians, Carians, Lydians, Lycians, Phrygians, Arameans, Assyrians, Corduenes, Cappadocians, Cilicians, Jewish people, Truvans and scores of others."

And in regards to the Turkification,
"The Peoples of the local population succumbed to the dual process of Turkification and Islamization include Anatolian, Balkan, Caucasian and Middle Eastern peoples from different ethnic origins, such as Albanians, Arabs, Armenians, Assyrians, Circassians, Greeks, Jews, Romani, Slavs, Iranic peoples such as Kurds, as well as Lazs from all the regions of the Ottoman Empire and Iran." (And ofcourse the peoples mentioned earlier)
Most people in Anatolia were Hellenized when the Turks showed up,
One mark of the progress of Turkification was that by the 1330s, place names in Anatolia had changed from Greek to Turkish.

So as you can see, there were scores of different people in that Region(Anatolia), many different Iranic people, including Persians but they weren't the only ones. Hence why we look different.

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

One thing is missing in your list.

Role of the Persian King Darius the Great in Building the Ancient Suez Canal

The Canal of the Pharaohs, also called the Ancient Suez Canal or Necho's Canal, is the forerunner of the Suez Canal, constructed in ancient times. It followed a different course than its modern counterpart, by linking the Nile to the Red Sea via the Wadi Tumilat. Work began under the Pharaohs. According to Suez Inscriptions and Herodotus, the first opening of the canal was under Persian king Darius the Great.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canal_of_the_Pharaohs

We seem to have found a false flagging Persian.

Great, thanks. Too bad it isn't the Current MODERN Suez canal.

 

[Kuwaiti Girl]

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Not wanting to derail the other thread, thought I'd start this one. Is my friend @2800 wrong or not?
For me, we share very little with Persians. This is just my personal opinion, I don't claim to have the answers to everything, I just go by with my interactions with Persians/Iranians etc.

http://admixturemap.paintmychromosomes.com/

Turks are 11.1% similar to Greeks, 9.9% similar to Armenians, 8.5% similar to Iranians, 7.4% similar to Georgians, 7.0% similar to Sicilians, 6.2% similar to Cypriots, 6.1% similar to south Italians, and 5.4% similar to Syrians.

 

[Attila the Hun]

Yes the earliest evidence of J2 was found in Northern Iran in the Hotu Cave and It is the dominant haplogroup in both Persians in Iran and Turkish people in Anatolia.

Maybe, but, like you said on your last part of your post, we are different looking. but, you can find many that look alike. this is normal because of where we both live.

Turks are 11.1% similar to Greeks, 9.9% similar to Armenians, 8.5% similar to Iranians, 7.4% similar to Georgians, 7.0% similar to Sicilians, 6.2% similar to Cypriots, 6.1% similar to south Italians, and 5.4% similar to Syrians.

7% similar to Sicilians ? 8% Persian? But just 11% Greek? I find that hard to believe, but fine.

 

[Kuwaiti Girl]

7% similar to Sicilians ? 8% Persian? But just 11% Greek? I find that hard to believe, but fine.

It's because the Turks/Anatolians are incredibly mixed. The average Turk has Balkan, Caucasian, Iranian, Levantine, Southern European, and Mesopotamian origins.

It's wonderful if you ask me.