Turkish Nucleur Bomb

[Desert Fox]

That would make US a nuclear weapons prolifrator,no one give ready made nuclear weaponsto anyone.

US already is a WMD proliferator .

Since they are the most powerful nation on Earth as of now they bypass every law and restriction that applies to other nations.

 

[Surenas]

Yeah, Pakistan did back the Taliban (unfortunately), but the Taliban weren't only under Pakistan's control, they're like a pack of loose attack dogs made up of different factions. Pakistan wanted to keep india out of Afghanistan so that was our reason of supporting them, Iran however had sectarian differences with the Taliban therefor it opposed them and supported the Northern Alliance. The Northern Alliances were not only backed by Iran but also backed by india and Russia for their own reasons.

Everyone backed each faction for their own gains; Pakistan to keep india out, Saudi/GCC to encircle Iran, Iran to secure Afghanistan of Saudi influence, Russia to prevent Islamic movements from encroaching in its sphere of influence (the CAR').

However, i still don't know why Pakistan and Post-1979 Iran relations were sour from 1979-1995 (Taliban only came into picture in 1996 i believe). Pakistan stayed neutral in the Iran-Iraq war despite pro-Saudi dictator Zial Ul Haq's government, hack we mediated before Iran and Iraq and helped to bring the war to an end.

Afghanistan was indeed a playground for competing powers, unfortunately. I have also no idea why the relations soured after the revolution. Have to take a look on it. But Iran also sheltered it's fighter aircrafts on PAF airbases during the Iran-Iraq war.

But perhaps a new regime or policy can change the relationship between our nations. Could benefit both countries and the region. Imagine an Iranian-Afghan-Pakistan alliance.

 

[Desert Fox]

In my opinion only 2 countries in the Muslim world are eligible for having Nukes.

- Saudi Arabia

-Turkey

I can understand why you would say that since you're indian, you wouldn't want to include Pakistan on that list of yours.

I have heard this like 55565 times, it's weird that our Pakistani brothers tend only to remember the little they gave and totally forget the substantial assistance they got and still getting from Muslim countries. They even blame them for their shortcomings. Throughout history, countries used to exchange knowledge and help eachother, but when it comes to Pakistan it becomes so special and even a sacrifice for Muslim Ummah, given that what Muslims got from non Muslim, Eastern and Western countries, from tech, training and equipment exceed what Muslims helped each other with, put all together. Pakistani Nuclear program was financed by mainly by KSA, and when Pakistan was under sanctions, they didn't find any assistance but from Arab and some Muslim countries, and the irony is that they still get it as we are speaking and still ignored. Yah, what a brotherhood!

Who ignored it, there's countless threads about it. Don't feel so left out bro.

 

[Desert Fox]

Afghanistan was indeed a playground for competing powers, unfortunately. I have also no idea why the relations soured after the revolution. Have to take a look on it. But Iran also sheltered it's fighter aircrafts on PAF airbases during the Iran-Iraq war.

If so, that was a great gesture on the behalf of Pakistan to our Iranian neighbors, considering Iran too sheltered and refueled Pakistani Aircraft during the indo-Pak wars.

But perhaps a new regime or policy can change the relationship between our nations. Could benefit both countries and the region. Imagine an Iranian-Afghan-Pakistan alliance.

That's my dream alliance:

Turkey-Iran-Pakistan-Afghanistan-Central Asian Republics. These nations have too much in common in so many ways; geostrategically, culturally, etc.

But then again its only a dream, but who knows perhaps it can form in the near future. I'm still optimistic since the Istanbul-Tehran-Islamabad railroad's establishment, hopefully we continue to build on that.

Also, i'm sure you have heard or read about Shah Naimatullah Wali, read his poetry about the region of Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Central Asia, and the coming alliance of these nations, you'd be surprised.

 

[Surenas]

If so, that was a great gesture on the behalf of Pakistan to our Iranian neighbors, considering Iran too sheltered and refueled Pakistani Aircraft during the indo-Pak wars.

Yes, it's true, and was indeed a great gesture on behalf of Pakistan.

That's my dream alliance:

Turkey-Iran-Pakistan-Afghanistan-Central Asian Republics. These nations have too much in common in many way.

But then again its only a dream, but who knows perhaps it can form in the near future. I'm still optimistic since the Istanbul-Tehran-Islamabad railroad's establishment, hopefully we continue to build on that.

Also, i'm sure you have heard or read about Shah Naimatullah Wali, read his poetry about the region of Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Central Asia, and the coming alliance of these nations, you'd be surprised.

That would indeed be a great alliance and can even compete with powers like the EU or even the US. But considering the impact of such alliance, Western + some Arab countries probably would prevent it, by any means. Iran, Pakistan and Turkey are all part of the Next Eleven and the potential these states have is incredible. Real independence and sovereignty can be achieved by forming such alliance. It would shook the region, thats for sure.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_Eleven

I have heard of Namatullah, but haven't read his poems. I certainly would do now. Thank you for the tip!

 

[SHAMK9]

Militarily and logistically i don't think that would have been possible, but the least we could have done was to secure him a escape route out of Libya and bring him to Pakistan. (My opinion).

No thank you, Pakistan is not gonna be the guinea pig for every international criminal in the name of 'muslim brotherhood' Period (I am an ultra nationalist as you can tell from my posts )

 

[Desert Fox]

Yes, it's true, and was indeed a great gesture on behalf of Pakistan.

After Iran helped us during our wars, Shah's government or not, we couldn't have just sat idle when it needed us in its time of need.

That would indeed be a great alliance and can even compete with powers like the EU or even the US. But considering the impact of such alliance, Western + some Arab countries probably would prevent it, by any means. Iran, Pakistan and Turkey are all part of the Next Eleven and the potential these states have is incredible. Real independence and sovereignty can be achieved by forming such alliance. It would shook the region, thats for sure.

Next Eleven - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Indeed, the fact that both nations are included in the next 11 is just another reason them to form a very strong alliance.

Yes, there will be obstacles, but nothing is achieved without having to go through challenges. Everything is just falling into place slowly, all we need to do is take the initiative.

I have heard of Namatullah, but haven't read his poems. I certainly would do now. Thank you for the tip!

If you ever take a look into what he has stated, you will find that what this man said 800 years ago is now taking place as we speak. It will require a lot of researching and reading, his original poetry is written in old Persian.

BTW, Taliban have also changed their stance towards Iran:

Taliban opens office in Iran - Telegraph

Though Iran's government and the Taliban have denied the report so one cannot really confirm the news, however i do believe the Taliban no longer view Iran as a primary threat as they did before.

 

[RazPaK]

When will Pakistan have the back of its own people? You know, the one's who are killed on a weekly basis by American drones.

Q: So what kind of a nuclear power allows another country to kill its civilian through extrajudicial means and get away with it?

A: Pakistan.

Deep state has the interest of it's own nation, however installed cowards are trying to counter them and are willing to sell out the nation.

There are many a patriot biding their time.