Turkish Navy and PM to accompany more aid ships to Gaza

[Icarus]

we dont need any donation or any free weapon so that we need permission ...

but surely you get donation from USA so u need not india

We don't get any free weapons either buddy, it's aid for people who have been displaced due to operations against the terrorists, and India does not need any foreign assistance ? Then would you care to explain why India has a debt of $242.8 Billion dollars to pay off ?

The Hindu Business Line : India's external debt rises by 8.1% at Sept-end

 

[Thomas]

Source ? Plz

his source is himself or some blog. there is nothing on any of the news wires.

 

[Abu Basit]

Seriously do you have any thing that proves their physical presence there or you are going in circles chasing the tail.

don't you remember the story of WMD in Iraq by american mercenaries

 

[Huda]

his source is himself or some blog. there is nothing on any of the news wires.

Turkey Uses Israeli UAV For PKK Strikes - MiddleEastNewsline

 

[Neither Right Nor Wrong]

My take is that if the ship was allowed such violation of Israeli territorial waters, Israel would have responded the same and the condemnation would have pointed out on focused on that it was a humanitarian mission. Being in international waters added very little fuel to the fire.

Though it can argued that Turkish vessels provoked Israeli action by running the blockade..but still there is no justification to IDF boarding a foreign flag vessel that too in International waters .

And even through territorial water United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea defines the Right to Innocent Passage.

 

[Thomas]

Turkey Uses Israeli UAV For PKK Strikes - MiddleEastNewsline

what does that have to do with The Turkish Air Force being put on alert for possible action against Israel? Which is what you insinuated.

 

[Jigs]

Huh ? That just says we bombed the PKK using a Heron.

 

[apophenia]

It is very relevant if this trip was sponsored by the Turkish government. If the trip was sponsored, it is a tacit declaration that whoever is in charge of the fleet was acting on behalf of the Turkish government. What you are implying is dangerous in that any member of any alliance can exploit the alliance's rules to drag the alliance into a war the other members may not believe to be justifiable.

Was not implying anything other than this incident may lead Turkey into invoking its rights under Article 5 of the NATO Treaty. As this certainly seems to be a criminal act at a minimum by Israel and some might even consider it an act of war. But at the end of the day, the US / NATO/UN /Arab league has neither the political power nor the courage to take any substantive action to control Israeli behavior, no matter how stupid, brutal or provocative. Netanyahu knows this, that's the way it will remain.

Read somewhere that Turkish government informed about her ships coming along with others. So I guess the Turkish government did have some role in the buildup of this trip.

 

[smali183]

As always we are neutral for WWIII. If Pakistan wants to join it they can we promise we will not attack........

Baghal may churri Mun may RAM RAM

 

[jha]

@smali only if you understood the sarcasm..

BTW Turkey attacking ISRAEL will be a huge thing..lets see whether america supports ISRAEL or, not..?

 

[gambit]

Was not implying anything other than this incident may lead Turkey into invoking its rights under Article 5 of the NATO Treaty. As this certainly seems to be a criminal act at a minimum by Israel and some might even consider it an act of war. But at the end of the day, the US / NATO/UN /Arab league has neither the political power nor the courage to take any substantive action to control Israeli behavior, no matter how stupid, brutal or provocative. Netanyahu knows this, that's the way it will remain.

Read somewhere that Turkish government informed about her ships coming along with others. So I guess the Turkish government did have some role in the buildup of this trip.

Turkey may so invoke but NATO will not respond as everyone knows this was not an assault against Turkey or even Turkish interests by another nation-state. The welfare of the Palestinians is not a Turkish national interest. NATO was created to guard against existential threat, such as that posed by the Soviet Union. Israel does not pose such a threat.

 

[gambit]

Though it can argued that Turkish vessels provoked Israeli action by running the blockade..but still there is no justification to IDF boarding a foreign flag vessel that too in International waters .

And even through territorial water United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea defines the Right to Innocent Passage.

Right to peaceful passage can be nullified IF there is an intention to violate someone else's territory. Or in the case of Somali piracy, there is a clear intention of committing a crime.

BBC News - Nato warship destroys pirate boats in Somali Basin

HMS Chatham's helicopter spotted a larger vessel towing the two attack boats in the Somali Basin, about 150 miles off Tanzania, on 14 May, it said.

After monitoring the vessels overnight, a Royal Marine team launched a "well-planned operation" at dawn, it said.

Ten Somalis surrendered and the two smaller boats were destroyed.

Commander Simon Huntington, commanding officer of Devonport-based HMS Chatham, said he was "extremely pleased" the warship had "successfully disrupted a pirate attack group operating in the Somali Basin and prevented them from mounting attacks against merchant shipping".

 

[Aslan]

Then let me bring the news to you...

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Hezbollah wins hearts in Gaza

That ain't Fox.

I serisously thought that you were a mush smarter person then that. You had mentioned this
And then you give me an article that says that Hezbollah wins hearts in Gaza.
Seriously do you have any thing that proves their physical presence there or you are going in circles chasing the tail.

Still waiting.

 

[apophenia]

Turkey may so invoke but NATO will not respond as everyone knows this was not an assault against Turkey or even Turkish interests by another nation-state. The welfare of the Palestinians is not a Turkish national interest. NATO was created to guard against existential threat, such as that posed by the Soviet Union. Israel does not pose such a threat.

Turkish civilians were murdered so Turkish government is well within in rights to respond. Moreover I have stated my reason for knee jerk response from EU and the rest of the world on the incident.

 

[gambit]

Still waiting.

Keyboard and brain not working...??? Or is using keywords searches beyond your ken?