Turkish Naval Programs

[era_shield]

@ transhumanist This doc from the DoD the seems to indicate they were designing for armoured ICBMs in the 90s. Looks like it doesn't take much mass to penetrate the armour though due to the extremely high speeds the kill vehicle can achieve outside the atmosphere.

 

[CekilinBenDoktorum]

@ transhumanist doc from the DoD the seems to indicate they were designing for armoured ICBMs in the 90s. Looks like it doesn't take much mass to penetrate the armour though due to the extremely high speeds the kill vehicle can achieve outside the atmosphere.

In Space even a dust particle can destroy a satelite because of kinetic energy.

The difficult part in the design of the kill vehicle is the correction of the flight path. Americans pumping billions of Dollars just into this.

when they are successfull, russkies will be toast.

 

[Transhumanist]

@ transhumanist This doc from the DoD the seems to indicate they were designing for armoured ICBMs in the 90s. Looks like it doesn't take much mass to penetrate the armour though due to the extremely high speeds the kill vehicle can achieve outside the atmosphere.

Yes, the document does note such with the Brilliant Pebbles program:

Furthermore, Wood believed that BP interceptors might eventually be made so small (under a single gram in mass) that they would possess too little kinetic energy to assure destruction of an armored ICBM.

But it doesn't make a claim as to the existence of an Armored ICBM, just that hypothetically brilliant pebbles would lack the necessary energy to defeat one. There are no armored ICBMs in service. It mentions armored ICBMs twice total.

Not Russia's RS-26 or RSM-56, not Trident D5 or LGM-30G, not any. It was a hypothetical concept, same as Fractional Orbital Bombardment or Peacekeeper rail-garrison to ensure the survivability of ICBMs against Strategic Defense Initiative-type defense systems, which were never implemented.

Is it possible, I've never discounted the feasibility, just countered the claim that all MIRV/MARV and missiles are armored, which they are not.

 

[Babur Han]

Primary naval threat at black Sea is the Russian surface. And in the south, its nothing, but A2AD over southern Cypriot shores. I understand your concerns over military and navy's AAW. But believe me we've done the best we could so far, and the next decade is to catch up with the upper league; TF-2000, Í-class...etc.

Against the Threat from Russian Black Sea Fleet, would it not make Sense to deploy Land based Atmaca AShM Batteries on the Black Sea Coast ?

 

[ozi2000]

AKYA Heavy Torpedo First Picture






Akya Heavyweight Turkish Torpedo

What you see above may be the first published photo of the Turkish heavyweight torpedo Akya. I have found it in an online publication of Turkish Navy.

I believe the photo was at the first test firing of torpedo on 11 July 2013. The test firing was done from a surface platform where a 533mm torpedo tube was installed. The photo appears to be taken before loading the Akya into the torpedo tube.

The torpedo has an elliptic cone nose similar to contemporary German torpedoes. It is difficult to see if ther eis one set of propeller or two counter turning propellers. But at least for the test device there is no housing around the propellers.

The development an indigenous heavyweight torpdeo is going on for 5 years. In 2010 a contract was signed between Turkish Naval Research Center Command (ARMERKOM), Tübitak, Roketsan and Undersecretariat for Defense Industries for developing and prototyping of a heavy weight torpedo. The value of the contract was 24 million euros.

ARMERKOM has the lead in designing the 533mm torpedo named Akya, after a local fish. Tübitak is developing the sonar where as Roketsan is working on the warhead and guidance.

Akya Heavyweight Turkish Torpedo |

 

[Exocet]

USN has SBX for long range detection. @Transhumanist

 

[Transhumanist]

USN has SBX for long range detection. @Transhumanist

This one?

It's not operational:

The Sea-Based X-Band Radar (SBX-1) is a floating, self-propelled, mobile active electronically scanned array early-warning radar station designed to operate in high winds and heavy seas. It was developed as part of the Missile Defense Agency's Ballistic Missile Defense System.

The radar is mounted on a fifth generation CS-50 twin-hulled semi-submersible drilling rig. Conversion of the vessel was carried out at the AmFELS yard in Brownsville, Texas; the radar mount was built and mounted on the vessel at the Kiewit yard in Ingleside, Texas. It is nominally based at Adak Island in Alaska (though, as of April 2015 has never put into port at Adak). It has spent most of its time at Pearl Harbor in test status, having never become operational, and has received criticism for falling short of program expectations.

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It's also used for GMD:

not SM-3 and was designed to track North Korean missiles such as Unha-3 and KN-08:

There are currently 22,000 modules installed on the base. Each module has one transmit-receive feed horn and one auxiliary receive feed horn for a second polarization, totaling 44,000 feedhorns. The base is roughly 2/3 populated, with space for installation of additional modules. The current modules are concentrated toward the center to minimize grating lobes. This configuration allows it to support the very-long-range target discrimination and tracking that GMD's midcourse segment requires. The array requires over a megawatt of power.

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Smaller, more localized sensors like AN/SPY-1 are used to locate targets for SM-3.

 

[KediKesenFare3]

AKYA Heavy Torpedo First Picture






Akya Heavyweight Turkish Torpedo

What you see above may be the first published photo of the Turkish heavyweight torpedo Akya. I have found it in an online publication of Turkish Navy.

I believe the photo was at the first test firing of torpedo on 11 July 2013. The test firing was done from a surface platform where a 533mm torpedo tube was installed. The photo appears to be taken before loading the Akya into the torpedo tube.

The torpedo has an elliptic cone nose similar to contemporary German torpedoes. It is difficult to see if ther eis one set of propeller or two counter turning propellers. But at least for the test device there is no housing around the propellers.

The development an indigenous heavyweight torpdeo is going on for 5 years. In 2010 a contract was signed between Turkish Naval Research Center Command (ARMERKOM), Tübitak, Roketsan and Undersecretariat for Defense Industries for developing and prototyping of a heavy weight torpedo. The value of the contract was 24 million euros.

ARMERKOM has the lead in designing the 533mm torpedo named Akya, after a local fish. Tübitak is developing the sonar where as Roketsan is working on the warhead and guidance.

Akya Heavyweight Turkish Torpedo |

For me it looks like the German Seehecht torpedo
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[Exocet]

Can SBX illuminate ICBM's? @Transhumanist

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Some people were posting SBX's image in a claimed HAARP project.

 

[Transhumanist]

Can SBX illuminate ICBM's? @Transhumanist

Yes it can. In fact, that's what it was designed to do in order to successfully allow GMD, the US' ICBM killer. to track and engage ICBMs during their mid-course flight phase, or before warhead bus separation.

Both SM-3 and GMD are envisioned as mid-course defenses against ICBM class targets:

Since GMD is land-based, it makes use of a mobile sea-based sensor to allow it a long-range of detection. This is the SBX-1:

While SM-3, being on ships, makes use of a sea-based, mobile ship-born sensor. AN/SPY-1:

 

[Exocet]

I have some doubts. Can a AN/SPY-1 with a 410 km range track-engage a target in a 1500 km altitude(ICBM's midcourse phase altitude)? Can a radar look up that much?
@Transhumanist

 

[Transhumanist]

I have some doubts. Can a AN/SPY-1 with a 410 km range track-engage a target in a 1500 km altitude(ICBM's midcourse phase altitude)? Can a radar look up that much?
@Transhumanist

Yes it can. Take the example of SM-3's land version, Aegis Ashore.

Aegis Ashore doesn't use SBX-1, since this system well be built in Europe while SBX-1 has never left the Pacific. Even then, as noted in this picture of an actual Aegis Ashore deckhouse, it still uses AN/SPY-1, the same version found on Ticonderoga class cruisers and Arleigh Burke class destroyers.

Aegis Ashore uses the SM-3 missile, as noted here during this Aegis Ashore demonstration flight:

May 21, 2014. Standard Missile Completes First Test Launch from Aegis Ashore Test Site.

The Missile Defense Agency, the U.S. Navy, and sailors at the Aegis Ashore Missile Defense Test Complex and Pacific Missile Range Facility (PMRF), successfully conducted the first flight test involving components of the Aegis Ashore system.

During the test, a simulated ballistic missile target was acquired, tracked, and engaged by the Aegis Weapon System. At approximately 7:35 p.m. Hawaii Standard Time, May 20 (1:35 a.m. EDT, May 21), the Aegis Weapon System fired a Standard Missile (SM)-3 Block IB guided missile from the Vertical Launch System. Several fire control and engagement functions were exercised during the test. A live target missile launch was not planned for this flight test.

The primary purpose of the test, designated Aegis Ashore Controlled Test Vehicle (AA CTV)-01, was to confirm the functionality of Aegis Ashore by launching a land-based SM-3. The Aegis Ashore system uses a nearly identical configuration of the Vertical Launch System, fire control system, and SPY-1 radar currently in use aboard Aegis cruisers and destroyers deployed around the world.

This flight test supports development of the Aegis Ashore capability of Phase 2 of the European Phased Adaptive Approach, planned to begin operations in Romania in 2015.

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Aegis ashore uses the same configuration as the sea-based SM-3. It does its job with AN/SPY-1 and not SBX-1 or any other radar.

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This comes directly from the Missile Defense Agency:

Aegis Ashore is the land-based component of the Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense (BMD) System. Aegis Ashore adapts the present and future Aegis BMD capabilities to address the evolving ballistic missile security environment. Aegis BMD and Standard Missile-3 (SM-3) upgrades are being phased into deployed Aegis BMD ships and land-based facilities during this decade. Each Aegis BMD upgrade provides increased capability for countering ballistic missile threats. The land-based system is designed to be removable to support worldwide deployment. In addition to Aegis BMD at sea, Aegis Ashore is part of Phased Adaptive Approach (PAA) Phases II and III.

Development

• Use the same components (AN/SPY-1 Radar, Command, Control, Communications, Computers and Intelligence (C4I) systems, Vertical Launch System, computer processors, display system, power supplies and water coolers) that are used onboard the Navy's new construction Aegis BMD Destroyers.
• Will conduct flight tests at the Aegis Ashore Missile Defense Test Complex (AAMDTC) at Pacific Missile Range Facility in Kauai, Hawaii. Each test will increase the operational realism and complexity of targets and scenarios and will be witnessed by Navy and Defense Department test agents.
• Integrates advances in sensor technology such as launch of an SM-3 missile in response to remote sensor data.
• Defeats short- to intermediate-range ballistic missile threats.
• Incorporates future capability upgrades in association with Aegis BMD Program of Record.

Aegis Ashore Missile Defense Test Complex (AAMDTC)

• The AAMDTC, being built at the Pacific Missile Range Facility in Kauai, Hawaii, will be a test and evaluation center in the development of the second phase of the PAA. The test complex will leverage the Aegis BMD Weapon System and the new SM-3 Block IB missile for PAA Phase II deployment, as well as, support deployment decisions and upgrades of future PAA Phase capabilities.
• The first land-based SM-3 Block IB missiles will be fired in 2014.

Deployment

• In 2015, Aegis Ashore will be installed in Romania, as part of the PAA Phase II. This deployed capability will use Aegis BMD 5.0 CU and SM-3 Block IB to provide ballistic missile coverage of Southern Europe.
• In 2018, Aegis Ashore will be installed in Poland, as part of the PAA Phase III. This deployed capability will use Aegis BMD 5.1 and SM-3 Block IB and IIA to support defense of Northern Europe.

Future Capabilities

• Engagement of longer range ballistic missiles
• Enhanced terminal capability against short and medium range ballistic missiles

 

[Exocet]

Yes it can. Take the example of SM-3's land version, Aegis Ashore.

Aegis Ashore doesn't use SBX-1, since this system well be built in Europe while SBX-1 has never left the Pacific. Even then, as noted in this picture of an actual Aegis Ashore deckhouse, it still uses AN/SPY-1, the same version found on Ticonderoga class cruisers and Arleigh Burke class destroyers.

Aegis Ashore uses the SM-3 missile, as noted here during this Aegis Ashore demonstration flight:

May 21, 2014. Standard Missile Completes First Test Launch from Aegis Ashore Test Site.

The Missile Defense Agency, the U.S. Navy, and sailors at the Aegis Ashore Missile Defense Test Complex and Pacific Missile Range Facility (PMRF), successfully conducted the first flight test involving components of the Aegis Ashore system.

During the test, a simulated ballistic missile target was acquired, tracked, and engaged by the Aegis Weapon System. At approximately 7:35 p.m. Hawaii Standard Time, May 20 (1:35 a.m. EDT, May 21), the Aegis Weapon System fired a Standard Missile (SM)-3 Block IB guided missile from the Vertical Launch System. Several fire control and engagement functions were exercised during the test. A live target missile launch was not planned for this flight test.

The primary purpose of the test, designated Aegis Ashore Controlled Test Vehicle (AA CTV)-01, was to confirm the functionality of Aegis Ashore by launching a land-based SM-3. The Aegis Ashore system uses a nearly identical configuration of the Vertical Launch System, fire control system, and SPY-1 radar currently in use aboard Aegis cruisers and destroyers deployed around the world.

This flight test supports development of the Aegis Ashore capability of Phase 2 of the European Phased Adaptive Approach, planned to begin operations in Romania in 2015.

...

Aegis ashore uses the same configuration as the sea-based SM-3. It does its job with AN/SPY-1 and not SBX-1 or any other radar.

...

This comes directly from the Missile Defense Agency:

Aegis Ashore is the land-based component of the Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense (BMD) System. Aegis Ashore adapts the present and future Aegis BMD capabilities to address the evolving ballistic missile security environment. Aegis BMD and Standard Missile-3 (SM-3) upgrades are being phased into deployed Aegis BMD ships and land-based facilities during this decade. Each Aegis BMD upgrade provides increased capability for countering ballistic missile threats. The land-based system is designed to be removable to support worldwide deployment. In addition to Aegis BMD at sea, Aegis Ashore is part of Phased Adaptive Approach (PAA) Phases II and III.

Development

• Use the same components (AN/SPY-1 Radar, Command, Control, Communications, Computers and Intelligence (C4I) systems, Vertical Launch System, computer processors, display system, power supplies and water coolers) that are used onboard the Navy's new construction Aegis BMD Destroyers.
• Will conduct flight tests at the Aegis Ashore Missile Defense Test Complex (AAMDTC) at Pacific Missile Range Facility in Kauai, Hawaii. Each test will increase the operational realism and complexity of targets and scenarios and will be witnessed by Navy and Defense Department test agents.
• Integrates advances in sensor technology such as launch of an SM-3 missile in response to remote sensor data.
• Defeats short- to intermediate-range ballistic missile threats.
• Incorporates future capability upgrades in association with Aegis BMD Program of Record.

Aegis Ashore Missile Defense Test Complex (AAMDTC)

• The AAMDTC, being built at the Pacific Missile Range Facility in Kauai, Hawaii, will be a test and evaluation center in the development of the second phase of the PAA. The test complex will leverage the Aegis BMD Weapon System and the new SM-3 Block IB missile for PAA Phase II deployment, as well as, support deployment decisions and upgrades of future PAA Phase capabilities.
• The first land-based SM-3 Block IB missiles will be fired in 2014.

Deployment

• In 2015, Aegis Ashore will be installed in Romania, as part of the PAA Phase II. This deployed capability will use Aegis BMD 5.0 CU and SM-3 Block IB to provide ballistic missile coverage of Southern Europe.
• In 2018, Aegis Ashore will be installed in Poland, as part of the PAA Phase III. This deployed capability will use Aegis BMD 5.1 and SM-3 Block IB and IIA to support defense of Northern Europe.

Future Capabilities

• Engagement of longer range ballistic missiles
• Enhanced terminal capability against short and medium range ballistic missiles

Thx bro you are very quick.

Do you know when will SM-3 Block 2B be operational?

 

[Transhumanist]

Thx bro you are very quick.

Do you know when will SM-3 Block 2B be operational?

The ultra-long range version right, SM-3 Block IIA?

It is expected to become operational in 2018 at the earliest, according to its builder Raytheon:

SM-3 Block IIA
The next-generation SM-3 Block IIA is being developed in cooperation with Japan and will be deployable on land as well as at sea. It has two distinct new features: larger rocket motors that will allow it to defend broader areas from ballistic missile threats and a larger kinetic warhead.

SM-3 Block IIA is the centerpiece of the European missile defense system, and Raytheon Company will begin flight testing in 2015 to keep the program on track for 2018 deployment at sea and on land in Poland.

 

[KediKesenFare3]

Thx bro you are very quick.

Do you know when will SM-3 Block 2B be operational?

Your "bro" is a "sis".