Turkish Missile Programs

[Hexciter]

Turkey develops advanced Bora-2 long-range missile

Kerry Herschelman, Washington, DC
IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
27 April 2018

Defence Minister Nurettin Canikli said on 26 April that Turkey is developing a more advanced missile with a greater range than the Bora-1 (Storm) long-range surface-to-surface missile system, according to the Milliyet daily.
Canikli did not give details about the new missile, the Bora-2, but recalled that the 280 km range Bora-1 is domestically produced and entered service in May 2017.
The export version is called Kaan (Khan).
Canikli pointed out that the range of these missiles is limited to 300 km as Turkey has to abide by rules prohibiting a longer range, referring to the Missile Technology Control Regime, which Turkey has signed.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Turkey develops advanced Bora-2 long-range missile

Kerry Herschelman, Washington, DC
IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
27 April 2018

Defence Minister Nurettin Canikli said on 26 April that Turkey is developing a more advanced missile with a greater range than the Bora-1 (Storm) long-range surface-to-surface missile system, according to the Milliyet daily.
Canikli did not give details about the new missile, the Bora-2, but recalled that the 280 km range Bora-1 is domestically produced and entered service in May 2017.
The export version is called Kaan (Khan).
Canikli pointed out that the range of these missiles is limited to 300 km as Turkey has to abide by rules prohibiting a longer range, referring to the Missile Technology Control Regime, which Turkey has signed.

I can't understand their last "line" statement about limitation... as if TR doesn't have the right to...
Since it doesn't block you to Develop for yourself a missile greater than 300 km...but prohibit it's "Export"...
Or... I misunderstood something on the MTCR agreement...

 

[kartal1]

I can't understand their last "line" statement about limitation... as if TR doesn't have the right to...
Since it doesn't block you to Develop for yourself a missile greater than 300 km...but prohibit it's "Export"...
Or... I misunderstood something on the MTCR agreement...

The news are not properly understood by the author of the article.
From Turkish media:
National Defense Minister Nurettin Canikli explained that they have been working for the more advanced version of the first national missile Bora (Bora 2).While Bora hit all the targets in its tests, Canikli refused to give details for Bora 2. Canikli said "If we provide details Kılıçdaroğlu will resign his candidature on his own"

'Entered Inventory'

Canikli said in his conversation in Parliament: "We have great projects. The 280 km-wide national flared Bora entered the inventory. Now we are working on its more advanced technology. If we provide details Kılıçdaroğlu will resign his candidature on his own. We recently tried Bora in Sinop. Targeted very successfully, hit the targets with full success . The design of the missile belong 100% to us. There is not a problem for launch of missiles up to 300km range. When you go up 300 kilometers, you get into the ballistic missile class, and there are special rules for using ballistic missiles. We have signed these rules.

Bora uses satellites to get to the destination. The only thing that we can't produce in Turkey is the direction finding devices, as ANSI and GPS. These are also in smart ammunition. These two navigation devices are used in all of 2019's most critical weapons. While going as fast as 800-900 thousand kilometers it can immediately follow and hit the target. I mean It's a strange technological tool. We are taking both of these from the United States. Hopefully in the middle of 2019 we will produce these ourselves. I signed for Altay. I can not explain the details because the signature process is not completed. Now the signature is in front of our President. It was a very successful project and the final result. "

 

[HannibalBarca]

The news are not properly understood by the author of the article.
From Turkish media:
National Defense Minister Nurettin Canikli explained that they have been working for the more advanced version of the first national missile Bora (Bora 2).While Bora hit all the targets in its tests, Canikli refused to give details for Bora 2. Canikli said "If we provide details Kılıçdaroğlu will resign his candidature on his own"

'Entered Inventory'

Canikli said in his conversation in Parliament: "We have great projects. The 280 km-wide national flared Bora entered the inventory. Now we are working on its more advanced technology. If we provide details Kılıçdaroğlu will resign his candidature on his own. We recently tried Bora in Sinop. Targeted very successfully, hit the targets with full success . The design of the missile belong 100% to us. There is not a problem for launch of missiles up to 300km range. When you go up 300 kilometers, you get into the ballistic missile class, and there are special rules for using ballistic missiles. We have signed these rules.

Bora uses satellites to get to the destination. The only thing that we can't produce in Turkey is the direction finding devices, as ANSI and GPS. These are also in smart ammunition. These two navigation devices are used in all of 2019's most critical weapons. While going as fast as 800-900 thousand kilometers it can immediately follow and hit the target. I mean It's a strange technological tool. We are taking both of these from the United States. Hopefully in the middle of 2019 we will produce these ourselves. I signed for Altay. I can not explain the details because the signature process is not completed. Now the signature is in front of our President. It was a very successful project and the final result. "

Why a statement about Kılıçdaroğlu and Bora related?
As I understand things, Ballistic missiles is Ok to Dev but every sub-sys should be "Homemade" since those who agreed to MTCR, don't have the right to provide sub-sys who could be used for Ballistic missile for another country... (aka US made)

So, Bora 2 will be in test around 2020-2021?

 

[Seyfullah]

https://twitter.com/x/status/990606124046016512

https://twitter.com/x/status/990676442374688769

 

[kartal1]

Why a statement about Kılıçdaroğlu and Bora related?
As I understand things, Ballistic missiles is Ok to Dev but every sub-sys should be "Homemade" since those who agreed to MTCR, don't have the right to provide sub-sys who could be used for Ballistic missile for another country... (aka US made)

So, Bora 2 will be in test around 2020-2021?

He is using the statement about Bora 2 for political agitation that's why he was speaking about Kilicdaroglu. I don't have enough knowledge about MTCR so I can't comment but your statement seems logical.

 

[DemirkanTR]

Last time we knew about Bora when it's fully completed. I think it's same now and we already developed (or almost developed) Bora-2.

 

[[TR]AHMET]

Last time we knew about Bora when it's fully completed. I think it's same now and we already developed (or almost developed) Bora-2.

Me too, why developments of those missiles are too slow, we was mentions about 2500km range 7 years before so all thosoe explanations and rumors were bullshit or ?

 

[CAN_TR]

Me too, why developments of those missiles are too slow, we was mentions about 2500km range 7 years before so all thosoe explanations and rumors were bullshit or ?

The development of Missiles are TOP SECRET.

 

[[TR]AHMET]

The development of Missiles are TOP SECRET.

We can just expect but nothing more, but i guess we are more ahead from currect situation.

What about Gezgin project it is still under development right ? even engine came from another country.

 

[CAN_TR]

We can just expect but nothing more, but i guess we are more ahead from currect situation.

What about Gezgin project it is still under development right ? even engine came from another country.

YES Gezgin is still under development and it will use French TR-50 engine.

KALE AERO develops a miniature Turbojet engine for the SOM Cruise Missiles and ATMACA, i hope they start after that with a national GEZGIN engine.

 

[Kamil_baku]

YES Gezgin is still under development and it will use French TR-50 engine.

KALE AERO develops a miniature Turbojet engine for the SOM Cruise Missiles and ATMACA, i hope they start after that with a national GEZGIN engine.

they recently mentioned that Kale will develop new engine other than the one for SOm i think..

 

[kartal1]

The Miniature Bomb that have been developed by ASELSAN and TUBITAK SAGE and the 4x250lbs Altinay launcher.

https://twitter.com/x/status/878257857572950018

 

[Bismarck]

What do you think about a man portable launcher for a Cirit missile? Of course with less range, but a bigger warhead?

 

[kartal1]

What do you think about a man portable launcher for a Cirit missile? Of course with less range, but a bigger warhead?

Why when we have OMTAS? And we are also working over Kara Ok man portable anti tank missile with range 1.5-2km.