Turkish Minister of National Defense Yaşar Güler: We are considering purchasing 40 Eurofighter Typhoons

[Foinikas]

He has managed to tear the space-time continuum and he's living in 2033 while the rest of the world is living in 2023

He's saying these things because in his parallel universe Turkey has 300 Kaan fighters, 500 Kızılelma and TF2000 destroyers cruising around the oceans of the world


I do think Turkish navy is the strongest in the region but we still have some big problems. Our best air defense frigates are still the Gabya class with SM-1 missiles. We can't put the Turkish tpye FAC into production due to a lack of money, we're not modernizing the Yavuz class, they don't even have Smart-S radars. etc. etc.

But ESSM are better,aren't they?

 

[LegionnairE]

But ESSM are better,aren't they?

Not really. SM-1 has better range still

You could argue that ESSM Mk. 2 is "better" but it still doesn't make up for range.

 

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Of course since we have 72 Kızılelma Block 2s in service, Rafale is no match

Adam uçuyor amına koyyim

evreni fethettin amına kodumun delisi

Eski dediğin uçak, yere göğe sığdıramadığın F16 yı ayakta siker şu an. Elimizde 240 tane aesa radarsız F-16, bir filo da zar zor uçan F4 var. Realite bu.

Gerçek hayata dön.

RAFALE dedigin ucagı S400 ve SIPER ayakta s.... üzerine de F-16V yi ekler
cıkın artık şu aşagılık kompleksinden capulcu sürüsü

Cahil hala AESA Radar diyor
Beyinsiz capulcu 163 adet F16 nın radara bile ihtiyacı yok
Ag temelli savaş nedir git ögren

Link16 üzerinden 163 adet CCIP modernizasyonu F16 mız E7-T AEWC ın Radarını kullanarak F16V ve RAFALE yi 350+ km den tespit edebilir

önemli olan BVR füzesi .. onuda GOKHAN projesi ile hallettigimizde Yunan hava kuvvetlerinin icinden geceriz


F35 e guzelleme yapsan anlarız
RAFALEymiş 350 km den tespit edilen sıradan bir ucak ve 10 yıla kalmaz esamesi konuşulmayacak

 

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How many jets has S-400 shot down? Let me hear you say it.

S400 has Fighter Jet kill record in the World with range of 150+ km
How many Jets has RAFALE shot down ? Let me hear you say it.


btw better worry about upcoming SIPER Air Defense System to block whole Aegean
and GAME OVER

Thanks to
-- 150-250 km SIPER Block2 Missiles
-- Integrated Radar network
-- Network centric warfare capability via link-16 and JREAP-C to use E-7T AEWC 600 km MESA Radar to detect RAFALE and F-16V from 350+ km away


and SIPER is indigenous .. Türkiye will be able to produce as much as it wants
Good luck you will need it

 

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You've lost your damn mind. We're still building TFX Kaan with American engines.And Hürjet, even Gökbey is still flying with CTS-800

If we hadn't bought the S400 we would have multiple active squadrons of F35 right now.

It has nothing to do with 2016.

F-16V is nothing to do with S400 , still USA doesnt sell F-16V to Turkiye
USA did not sell even PATRIOT to Turkiye

and USA gives Engines for only prototypes
in mass production , USA will block sale of Engines to Turkiye for KAAN
wait and see

cıkın artık şu hayal dünyasındanda ve gercegi görün
ABD nin kuyruk acısı o kadar büyük ki 2013 den beri heryerde planlarını Türkiye suya düşürdü

 

[White and Green with M/S]

S400 has Fighter Jet kill record in the World with range of 150+ km
How many Jets has RAFALE shot down ? Let me hear you say it.


btw better worry about upcoming SIPER Air Defense System to block whole Aegean
and GAME OVER

Thanks to
-- 150-250 km SIPER Block2 Missiles
-- Integrated Radar network
-- Network centric warfare capability via link-16 and JREAP-C to use E-7T AEWC 600 km MESA Radar to detect RAFALE and F-16V from 300+ km away


and SIPER is indigenous .. Türkiye will be able to produce as much as it wants
Good luck you will need it

That's was su27 which has one of the biggest RCS of fighter jets RAFALE has much less RCS than su27 RCS with latest EW systems

 

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That's was su27 which has one of the biggest RCS of fighter jets RAFALE has much less RCS than su27 RCS with latest EW systems

91N6E BIG BIRD Radar detection system with 340 km range
and protection against jamming


BIG BIRD Radar detect a target with RCS of 0.4 m2 from 200 km away
RAFALE has RCS of 1 m2

and 240 km 48N6E3 Missile has speed of mach 5,9


The most important thing here is the low flight
Turkish SIPER AD System to use E-7T AEWC MESA Radar to detect RAFALE from 300+ km away even in low flight mode ... nowhere to hide for RAFALE

150-250 km SIPER integrated Air Defense System will be more dangerous than S400 which working with stand alone mode


Greece should worry about upcoming SIPER instead of S400

 

[MMM-E]

He's saying these things because in his parallel universe Turkey has 300 Kaan fighters, 500 Kızılelma and TF2000 destroyers cruising around the oceans of the world

You are living in paralel universe
Greece buys 24 RAFALE ... end of Turkiye

For you , S400 and SIPER are nothing

We can't put the Turkish tpye FAC into production due to a lack of money, we're not modernizing the Yavuz class, they don't even have Smart-S radars. etc. etc.

If you know nothing about military then go to make a cake like little girls


1 --- Turkiye increase its defense budget from $16 billion to $40 billion for 2024
We have money

Turkiye focused on 10 HISAR class OPV to protect MAVI VATAN
and Turkiye produced 2 OPVs in record time

2-- 4 ISTIF class Frigates will replace 4 old YAVUZ class Frigates

Turkiye modernize 4 BARBAROS class Frigates with most modern Systems including SMART-S MK2 Radar

BEFORE

AFTER

 

[Foinikas]

S400 has Fighter Jet kill record in the World with range of 150+ km

Was that confirmed by both sides?

And again,a Ukrainian Su-27?

Like @LeGenD said,the Rafale or F-16V isn't a "Mig-29". Legend mentioned the Mig-29.

How many S-400 units have been destroyed?

How many Jets has RAFALE shot down ? Let me hear you say it.

Has Rafale been in a real war with an enemy Air Force? No. But it has bombed a lot.

However,the S-400 has been in Syria and Ukraine.

btw better worry about upcoming SIPER Air Defense System to block whole Aegean
and GAME OVER

It's not even operational.

and SIPER is indigenous .. Türkiye will be able to produce as much as it wants
Good luck you will need it

As much as it wants? Free of money and resources? Just like that?

91N6E BIG BIRD Radar detection system with 340 km range
and protection against jamming


BIG BIRD Radar detect a target with RCS of 0.4 m2 from 200 km away
RAFALE has RCS of 1 m2

and 240 km 48N6E3 Missile has speed of mach 5,9

Then why has it been smashed numerous times in Ukraine?

The most important thing here is the low flight
Turkish SIPER AD System to use E-7T AEWC MESA Radar to detect RAFALE from 300+ km away even in low flight mode ... nowhere to hide for RAFALE

If SIPER was going to be so good,then why did you decide to buy S-400 and destroy the F-35 deal?

Greece buys 24 RAFALE ... end of Turkiye

For you , S400 and SIPER are nothing

Because it's not just 24 Rafale. It's by now almost 15 F-16V and it's 3 FDI HN and you're talking about SIPER that isn't even in active service and S-400 which has been destroyed in Ukraine.

If you know nothing about military then go to make a cake like little girls

Apparently,everyone knows about military stuff here except you. What's your age and job again? Do you work? Do you have a degree in military history? Defence?

 

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Because it's not just 24 Rafale. It's by now almost 15 F-16V and it's 3 FDI HN and you're talking about SIPER that isn't even in active service and S-400 which has been destroyed in Ukraine.

1 --- still dreaming with 15 F-16V which can not match with 163 CCIP modernized F-16s in BVR Combat

163 Turkish CCIP modernized F-16s can detect Greek F-16V from 350+ km
and we have same capability with AIM-120C7 air to air Missile

so F-16V does not add any benefit to Greece in the Aegean




2 ... so funny 3 FDI Frigates ... not even in service

even only a hour will be enough ...... and no more FDI Frigates
GAME OVER

250 km BARBAROS Coastal Defense System with ATMACA anti-ship Missile

Even 300 Turkish UCAVs will be enough for the Hellenic Navy

btw Turkish ISTIF class Frigate and modernized MEKO-200 Frigate already here

3 FDI Frigates ... vs ... 8 ISTIF+MEKO200TM Frigates

3 --- SIPER enter service in february 2024 ... ( 3 months left until delivery )

 

[White and Green with M/S]

91N6E BIG BIRD Radar detection system with 340 km range
and protection against jamming


BIG BIRD Radar detect a target with RCS of 0.4 m2 from 200 km away
RAFALE has RCS of 1 m2

and 240 km 48N6E3 Missile has speed of mach 5,9


The most important thing here is the low flight
Turkish SIPER AD System to use E-7T AEWC MESA Radar to detect RAFALE from 300+ km away even in low flight mode ... nowhere to hide for RAFALE

150-250 km SIPER integrated Air Defense System will be more dangerous than S400 which working with stand alone mode


Greece should worry about upcoming SIPER instead of S400

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Detection is one thing its not tracking and engagement range is much less for Rafales and f16vs (under 150 -100 km)

 

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Detection is one thing its not tracking and engagement range is much less for Rafales and f16vs (under 150 -100 km)

That means Hellenic Air Force will be turned to scrap of metal when they cross the 25th meridian in the Aegean

 

[elszADaQ]

If SIPER was going to be so good,then why did you decide to buy S-400 and destroy the F-35 deal?

In fact, the S-400 was purchased by Turkey as a transition system from the Russia and Türkiye more Modern edge of the Siper family with most advanced and effective air defense capabilities has not been unveiled. You believe in a lot of American bull crap.

Apparently,everyone knows about military stuff here except you. What's your age and job again? Do you work? Do you have a degree in military history? Defence?

S-t-f-u
S-400 for example, success in launching missiles in cold, is lags behind in terms of efficacy, and the SIPER is the most advanced tool in the hands of the Turkish Military apparatus, weather you like or not once entering mass service with the Turkish army will cause havoc to dumb deceptive Goyreek.

 

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Turkiye turned to the T4, the latest version of the Eurofighter, instead of purchasing F-16V from the USA.

The UK will persuade Germany if an order is placed

Minister of National Defense Yaşar Güler met with British Defense Minister Grant Shapps, who came to Turkiye as his official guest ... 23.11.2023

 

[Foinikas]

In fact, the S-400 was purchased by Turkey as a transition system from the Russia and Türkiye more Modern edge of the Siper family with most advanced and effective air defense capabilities has not been unveiled. You believe in a lot of American bull crap.

What exactly are you saying?

S-400 for example, success in launching missiles in cold, is lags behind in terms of efficacy, and the SIPER is the most advanced tool in the hands of the Turkish Military apparatus, weather you like or not once entering mass service with the Turkish army will cause havoc to dumb deceptive Goyreek.

SIPER isn't even out yet.

That means Hellenic Air Force will be turned to scrap of metal when they cross the 25th meridian in the Aegean

Go to page 7 and read Legend's post again.