Turkish Miniature Bomb, 1 sortie 8 targets with a F-16

[Faheka]

Thank to @Combat-Master for digging this up.

Specs

https://twitter.com/x/status/1132746385739132930

 

[Philip the Arab]

Very good, and UAE is getting MBDA cooperation to set up development and engineering facility in UAE for smart glider like this missile but 6 missile per rack. It is more about swarming targets though so that interception is impossible.

 

[Mithridates]

LOL

 

[Philip the Arab]

LOL

Not official I think.

 

[Philip the Arab]

@Bilal Khan (Quwa)
This would be better than REK for JF-17 right? Allows many more targets to be hit and similar ranges.

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

@Bilal Khan (Quwa)
This would be better than REK for JF-17 right? Allows many more targets to be hit and similar ranges.

The PAF uses REK on 1,000 lb GPBs. It might even be using them from 2,000 lb GPBs. The Turkish solution shown here is a lightweight (250 lb) SOW solution. It wouldn't replace the REK. In fact, the Turks will use this alongside their own PGB kit (HGK etc).

 

[-------]

View attachment 656544 Very good, and UAE is getting MBDA cooperation to set up development and engineering facility in UAE for smart glider like this missile but 6 missile per rack. It is more about swarming targets though so that interception is impossible.

That's nice of France.

Turkey is developing Kuzgun (Raven), which is pretty much similar in concept (swarm attack), but more modular with varying warheads, seekers, glide and or jet powered variants.

However, because this missile development is solely a Turkish venture with no foreign element, it will be integrated onto many platforms while utilising Turkey's national Data-Link system.

 

[Agha Sher]

View attachment 656544 Very good, and UAE is getting MBDA cooperation to set up development and engineering facility in UAE for smart glider like this missile but 6 missile per rack. It is more about swarming targets though so that interception is impossible.

In-service target date: 2025. Add a few years of delay plus an additional time penalty for UAE, you should expect to have these in 2028-ish. MBDA is moving with turtle speed.

One can only imagine how much the battleground has changed by then. Turkey, and other countries, have already started fielding DEWS. With 5-6 more years of development time for DEWS, swarm tactics will most likely be redundant against capable foes.

 

[Kamil_baku]

In-service target date: 2025. Add a few years of delay plus an additional time penalty for UAE, you should expect to have these in 2028-ish. MBDA is moving with turtle speed.

One can only imagine how much the battleground has changed by then. Turkey, and other countries, have already started fielding DEWS. With 5-6 more years of development time for DEWS, swarm tactics will most likely be redundant against capable foes.

they first need to dewelop new small Turbojet engine and that itself take years, also, if you but all those things from abroad, it means you still depend on them, they know how many of it you pose and so on..

 

[Philip the Arab]

In-service target date: 2025. Add a few years of delay plus an additional time penalty for UAE, you should expect to have these in 2028-ish. MBDA is moving with turtle speed.

One can only imagine how much the battleground has changed by then. Turkey, and other countries, have already started fielding DEWS. With 5-6 more years of development time for DEWS, swarm tactics will most likely be redundant against capable foes.

Could be obsolete by then, but we shall see.

 

[Philip the Arab]

they first need to dewelop new small Turbojet engine and that itself take years, also, if you but all those things from abroad, it means you still depend on them, they know how many of it you pose and so on..

Even the frogs dont use 100%indigenous parts in their missiles, and probably Turkey is not 100% either on some things. UAE has 1.2 million nationals, and yes it is going to be impossible to develop everything even with a highly educated population, and foreign help.

 

[Philip the Arab]

That's nice of France.

Turkey is developing Kuzgun (Raven), which is pretty much similar in concept (swarm attack), but more modular with varying warheads, seekers, glide and or jet powered variants.
View attachment 656615

However, because this missile development is solely a Turkish venture with no foreign element, it will be integrated onto many platforms while utilising Turkey's national Data-Link system.

Nice, you can't compare UAE and Turkey because UAE only has 1.2 million nationals m8. This is monumental stuff compared to their population size.

 

[what]

Even the frogs dont use 100%indigenous parts in their missiles, and probably Turkey is not 100% either on some things. UAE has 1.2 million nationals, and yes it is going to be impossible to develop everything even with a highly educated population, and foreign help.

Of coure not, but Turkey is facing sanctions so we will probably aim for a higher national input (always).

 

[-------]

Nice, you can't compare UAE and Turkey because UAE only has 1.2 million nationals m8. This is monumental stuff compared to their population size.

French missile, why would anyone compare UAE? Technologically inept country.

 

[Philip the Arab]

French missile, why would anyone compare UAE? Technologically inept country.

MBDA is setting up a engineering and flight testing center in the UAE.