Turkish Ground Forces enter Syria !

[hussain0216]

Indians are the most ridicilious members when it comes to middle east politics. Turkey out of the Nato ahahahah.

I will tell you two things about indians that EVERY muslim country secular/liberal/conservative should know about them

1- Centuries of muslim invasion have left the indians bitter and twisted towards muslims so regardless of what they say they harbour alot of ill intentions underneath so will as second nature support any anti muslim nation act or country.

2- They lack courage for a variety of historical reasons and maybe even due to the caste system where they wouldnt stand up against their perceived superiors, they thus project their fears and cowardice upon others so they cant understand Turkey and others in the name of national interest and self respect standing up against Russia

 

[RoadRunner401]

True, but you don't always have a choice

Especially when a Alewite dictator backed by Russia and iran is ethnically cleansing sunni muslims

Really, isn't it funny, how only Syrian Sunni's matter, not the ones living under the dictators running GCC. How about the Egyptions Sunni's that fought for democracy, got it, only to be taken away by house of saud.

Israel, whose influence in Washington is unprecedented, is stoking war fever against Syria and Iran. Israel is delighted that the crises with both nations have eclipsed the issue of Palestine and of Syria’s Golan Heights, which were illegally annexed by Israel in 1981. Golan supplies on third of Israel’s total water. Israel’s objective is to see Syria splintered into feuding cantons like today’s Iraq.

France’s right wing, led by President Nicholas Sarkozy’s UMP party, has long desired to re-establish France’s former colonial influence in Lebanon and Syria. The Asad regime in Syria has been a thorn in France’ side for four decades, particularly so in Lebanon, which Syria still insists is a historical part of Syria. France hopes to duplicate in Syria its success in stirring up and profiting from the uprising in Libya.

 

[hussain0216]

Iran is ethnically cleansing Sunnis? are you sure about that? @Daneshmand @Serpentine please clarify
the mass executions by Daesh only show one sided ethnic cleaning where the culprit is daesh and its affiliates and victims are anyone who is not them


be it shias
be it yazidis
be it kurds
be it christians.
be it any ordinary sunni that doesnt agree with daesh ideology it doesnt matter ,, if its not daesh then he will be killed

Yes Syria is majority Sunni and has been a sunni seat of power since islam came to Syria.

The alewites have never been in power until the British placed a Alewite dictator in charge over a majority sunni arab people


The alewites have since monopolised power, business and politics

For how long should the majority sunni population be forced to live under such circumstances

Currently their is a sustained effort by the alewite regime and shia militias to brutalise sunni muslims and ethnically clense them from areas such as Damascus, Aleppo and Latakia.

My best bet is they realise Syria is a sunni majority state so they have accepted a inevitable division and are pushing for a Alewite majority or only region stretching from the Lebanon border to Turkey controlling the historically significant coast adjacent region

Leaving sunnis in the desert with the kurds trying to take the border regions with Turkey


Now islam is 1.7 billion with a major sunni majority including Pakistan why should we accept this and not support our own

Really, isn't it funny, how only Syrian Sunni's matter, not the ones living under the dictators running GCC. How about the Egyptions Sunni's that fought for democracy, got it, only to be taken away by house of saud.

Israel, whose influence in Washington is unprecedented, is stoking war fever against Syria and Iran. Israel is delighted that the crises with both nations have eclipsed the issue of Palestine and of Syria’s Golan Heights, which were illegally annexed by Israel in 1981. Golan supplies on third of Israel’s total water. Israel’s objective is to see Syria splintered into feuding cantons like today’s Iraq.

France’s right wing, led by President Nicholas Sarkozy’s UMP party, has long desired to re-establish France’s former colonial influence in Lebanon and Syria. The Asad regime in Syria has been a thorn in France’ side for four decades, particularly so in Lebanon, which Syria still insists is a historical part of Syria. France hopes to duplicate in Syria its success in stirring up and profiting from the uprising in Libya.

I dont disagree with you, but we cant stand by and let the Assad regime slaughter and ethnically clense sunni muslims can we

The iranians should have understood a minority cant rule over a majority from the beginning but they were adamant for sectarian reasons to help Assad crush a opposition made up of Sunni arabs

 

[libertycall]

Yes Syria is majority Sunni and has been a sunni seat of power since islam came to Syria.

The alewites have never been in power until the British placed a Alewite dictator in charge over a majority sunni arab people

The alewites have since monopolised power, business and politics

For how long should the majority sunni population be forced to live under such circumstances

Currently their is a sustained effort by the alewite regime and shia militias to brutalise sunni muslims and ethnically clense them from areas such as Damascus, Aleppo and Latakia.

My best bet is they realise Syria is a sunni majority state so they have accepted a inevitable division and are pushing for a Alewite majority or only region stretching from the Lebanon border to Turkey controlling the historically significant coast adjacent region

Leaving sunnis in the desert with the kurds trying to take the border regions with Turkey


Now islam is 1.7 billion with a major sunni majority including Pakistan why should we accept this and not support our own

It was the French. Part of the colonial policy of placing minority groups over majorities to keep them at each others throats.

The map is beginning to resemble that set out in the Oded Yinon plan for the separation of the middle-east even to the extent of the division of the Syrian Arab Sunnis into two separate states--a separation which has never historically existed.

The dissolution of Syria and Iraq later on into ethnically or religiously unqiue areas such as in Lebanon, is Israel’s primary target on the Eastern front in the long run, while the dissolution of the military power of those states serves as the primary short term target. Syria will fall apart, in accordance with its ethnic and religious structure, into several states such as in present day Lebanon, so that there will be a Shi’ite Alawi state along its coast, a Sunni state in the Aleppo area, another Sunni state in Damascus hostile to its northern neighbor, and the Druzes who will set up a state, maybe even in our Golan, and certainly in the Hauran and in northern Jordan. This state of affairs will be the guarantee for peace and security in the area in the long run, and that aim is already within our reach today.

“Greater Israel”: The Zionist Plan for the Middle East | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization

They are not 'our own'. Pakistan will be threatened by Iranian hegemony in the area since Iran has not particularly cared about Pakistan's interests either today or in the past. The Syrian regime besides being allied with the Indian government at the very least was linked with one terrorist hijacking in the 1980's. Both Iran and Syria have shown themselves to be threats to some of Pakistan's strongest allies.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Yes Syria is majority Sunni and has been a sunni seat of power since islam came to Syria.

The alewites have never been in power until the British placed a Alewite dictator in charge over a majority sunni arab people


The alewites have since monopolised power, business and politics

For how long should the majority sunni population be forced to live under such circumstances

I normally dont give much importance to sectarian arguments but if such principle is applied then some states like Bahrain much be shia governed.

if someone can deliver as a leader then it matter more than what sect he follows. anyway I was surprised by your claim because the only ethnic cleansing claim that has come out is against daesh. Christians, yazidis, sunnis and alwaites etc lived peacefully under Asad before Iraq/ Libya formula was applied there

 

[Oublious]

I normally dont give much importance to sectarian arguments but if such principle is applied then some states like Bahrain much be shia governed.

if someone can deliver as a leader then it matter more than what sect he follows. anyway I was surprised by your claim because the only ethnic cleansing claim that has come out is against daesh. Christians, yazidis, sunnis and alwaites etc lived peacefully under Asad before Iraq/ Libya formula was applied there

Sorry you don't nothing about Sunni in Syria, peacefull under assad. We saw what they did to 2011 spring, shooting at unarmed protestors. This war didn't begin for nothing.

 

[HAIDER]

Iran is ethnically cleansing Sunnis? are you sure about that? @Daneshmand @Serpentine please clarify
the mass executions by Daesh only show one sided ethnic cleaning where the culprit is daesh and its affiliates and victims are anyone who is not them


be it shias
be it yazidis
be it kurds
be it christians.
be it any ordinary sunni that doesnt agree with daesh ideology it doesnt matter ,, if its not daesh then he will be killed

Don't forget Mazar Shareef genocide , read UN report. Then biggest millions of shia been brutally killed by Saddam. Later in one day 1700 shia been killed by ISIS .. That video is still on youtube......but anyway, its not question of shia or sunni, the question is, does taking a human life will resolve the conflicts ...No. Saddam did everything to save his regime, but....................when the divine order issue, then nothing can stay...

 

[libertycall]

Don't forget Mazar Shareef genocide , read UN report. Then biggest millions of shia been brutally killed by Saddam. Later in one day 1700 shia been killed by ISIS .. That video is still on youtube......but anyway, its not question of shia or sunni, the question is, does taking a human life will resolve the conflicts ...No. Saddam did everything to save his regime, but....................when the divine order issue, then nothing can stay...

What Mazar Shareef genocide in Syria? And genocide is a specific term which has a wider meaning than massacre.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Sorry you don't nothing about Sunni in Syria, peacefull under assad. We saw what they did to 2011 spring, shooting at unarmed protestors. This war didn't begin for nothing.

yes I admitted that already I dont know much and I also dont care much. of course you are the authority on this
how is kurdish culling going by the way? is them being sunni not good enough? should some Arab state use that as an excuse and arm them too? oh wait but they are terrorists right? they picked up arms against you? Asad cant use your logic?


oh sorry I said I dont care much about sectarianism so I must stop with the following prayer

it is your war so all power to you. I think entire world should stop trying to end this conflict and instead of food or medicine should drop weapons so that you guys can kill each other to your heart content. with such mindset across the middle east I think this war will surpass the ancient wars of the per Islam that lasted for decades.
once you guys get tired of killing and cant even carry your weapons anymore then the world should send you enough food to get your energy back so that you can resume killing.

 

[Al-Kurdi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/698679724508364800

 

[Oublious]

yes I admitted that already I dont know much and I also dont care much. of course you are the authority on this
how is kurdish culling going by the way? is them being sunni not good enough? should some Arab state use that as an excuse and arm them too? oh wait but they are terrorists right? they picked up arms against you? Asad cant use your logic?


oh sorry I said I dont care much about sectarianism so I must stop with the following prayer

it is your war so all power to you. I think entire world should stop trying to end this conflict and instead of food or medicine should drop weapons so that you guys can kill each other to your heart content. with such mindset across the middle east I think this war will surpass the ancient wars of the per Islam that lasted for decades.
once you guys get tired of killing and cant even carry your weapons anymore then the world should send you enough food to get your energy back so that you can resume killing.

Cheap talks, nothing more. If you had told this story before the ware, maybe alewites have listened to your peace speeches.

 

[HAIDER]

What Mazar Shareef genocide in Syria? And genocide is a specific term which has a wider meaning than massacre.

Afghanistan, killing of over 10,000 by Taliban.

 

[libertycall]

Afghanistan, killing of over 10,000 by Taliban.

and you're saying a massacre of one group of Afghans by another group of Afghans justifies Hezbollah and Iran killing close to 200,000 people in Syria?

I think you just proved Husain's point that this is a sectarian war carried out by Iran and its supporters.

Would you like me to quote you some massacres carried out by Shiites that dwarf that massacre?? Shall we play the numbers game?

 

[HAIDER]

and you're saying a massacre of one group of Afghans by another group of Afghans justifies Hezbollah and Iran killing close to 200,000 people in Syria?

I think you just proved Husain's point that this is a sectarian war carried out by Iran and its supporters.

Would you like me to quote you some massacres carried out by Shiites that dwarf that massacre?? Shall we play the numbers game?

Any official findings ? , For example UN. Or just another number war. Like Bangadesh claim , Pak army killed 3 million Bangalis.

 

[libertycall]

Any official findings ? , For example UN. Or just another number war. Like Bangadesh claim , Pak army killed 3 million Bangalis.

How about Iranian sources confirming that Shiites in Iran really did engage in a genocide of Iranian Sunnis. And I'm using the term genocide in its true sense, as the planned organized destruction of an ethnic group.

Or shall we perhaps discuss how Iranian Shiites invaded Afghanistan and tried to forcibly convert Afghans to the Shiite religion? That's confirmed by Iranian sources as well, and is also the UN accepted meaning of genocide.

Let's discuss your precious Hezb-i-Wahdat friends. I'm going to give you a source which is not just impartial but is actually partial to the Shiite child-molesters of the Northern Alliance. Let me quote some of your Indian friends:

the afghan warlord whose perverted mind dreamt up the 'dead man dancing' routine was abdul ali mazari, leader of the hazaras, afghanistan's persian-speaking ethnic minority. mazari headed a group called hizb-i-wahdat, now a key part of the northern alliance. although mazari is dead - captured and thrown out of a helicopter by the taliban, according to an authoritative report - many of his followers who committed atrocities are alive.

Northern Alliance commanders write their names in blood - Times of India

But I'm being unfair. Why should we stop at the Shiites massacres of Sunnis? How about the 150,00 - 200,000 Leftist Secular Iranians who were tortured and massacred by the Shiites according to Bani Sadr, once one of Iran's leaders with the approval of the Ayatollahs? Isn't it strange the Ayatollahs love Leftists and Secularists everywhere except in Iran itself!