Turkish constitutional referendum 2017 - News, Update & Discussion

[blondeturkish]

Lol I can feel you boiling from the inside. You should immigrate to your lovely EU since Turkey gone back to its real owners.

and who are Turkey real owners?

 

[azzo]

I agree that this presidential system was necessary, but there is still no proof that Erdogan and his folk are not Islamist, but pretty for the contrary conclusion.

THAT is the case here.

What is wrong with being an Islamist? Europe with all its glory is going back to its Christians roots, sprouting right wing governments and rhetoric all over Europe, where poor Turkish secular delusionals who dream of joining Europe one day are left hanging with no real allies on their side. Where do you want to end up? your so-called Utopia does not exist except in your fantasies.

That's what Khomeini said.

He had the right rhetoric on his side, but what he came up with is a wrong, simple and shallow autocratic system where the head of state (Wali Faqeeh) is still not chosen or voted on by the people.

 

[Kuwaiti Girl]

What is wrong with being an Islamist? Europe with all its glory is going back to its Christians roots, sprouting right wing governments and rhetoric all over Europe, where poor Turkish secular delusionals who dream of joining Europe one day are left hanging with no real allies on their side. Where do you want to end up? your so-called Utopia does not exist except in your fantasies.

Actually religion is dying in Europe, and pretty much everywhere else for that matter.

 

[HannibalBarca]

HDP calling for 3-4% fraud... meaning few millions...
Sometimes ppl... even Full Dictatorship can't fake few millions that easily...

 

[azzo]

and who are Turkey real owners?

Ottomans.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Ottomans.

YOu shoud have said Turks... bc Ottomans were those under Ottoman Empire... therefore I as a Tunisian is by definition a rightfull owner of Today Turkey.

 

[Kuwaiti Girl]

He had the right rhetoric on his side, but what he came up with is a wrong, simple and shallow autocratic system where the head of state (Wali Faqeeh) is still not chosen or voted on by the people.

Well if the people vote for him, then Iran will technically become a democracy. But aren't you against Western inventions like democracy?

 

[azzo]

Actually religion is dying in Europe, and pretty much everywhere else for that matter.

Not necessarily religious sentiments but Christian nationalism and white supremacy.

 

[Kuwaiti Girl]

Not necessarily religious sentiments but Christian nationalism and white supremacy.

European nationalism, yes. Religion? Nah, it's dead and buried.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Well if the people vote for him, then Iran will technically become a democracy. But aren't you against Western inventions like democracy?

Ask iranians they will tell you that they are under a democracy bc they can vote...

 

[KediKesenFare3]

https://twitter.com/x/status/853650483986280448

 

[azzo]

Well if the people vote for him, then Iran will technically become a democracy. But aren't you against Western inventions like democracy?

Democracy as a system is not only about voting, it has other implications. Simply voting on someone doesn't automatically make it a democratic system.

 

[blondeturkish]

European nationalism, yes. Religion? Nah, it's dead and buried.

can you all stay on topic. Meral Akşener says vote is 52-48 to No

 

[Kuwaiti Girl]

Democracy as a system is not only about voting, it has other implications. Simply voting on someone doesn't automatically make it a democratic system.

So you want voting, but you don't want all the complicated Western imperialist crpyto-Jewish masonic stuff like checks and balances, democratic accountability, etc.

 

[xenon54 out]

Ottomans.

Turkey belongs to Turks...