Turkish Commander Checks Out JF-17 C

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İf F-35 cost $85 million , then Why Czech Republic to pay $6.5 billion for 24 F-35 ?

$270 million for per F-35 ,, because of as part of a package


Germany clinches $8 billion purchase of 35 F-35
$228 million for per F-35

F 35's spare parts, operation, maintenance and flight costs are very expensive.
1 F35 vs 10 KIZILELMA

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and KIZILELMA doesnt need AIM-120D or something like it
enemy Fighter Jets will detect KIZILELMA Block2 from 43 km away
100+ km GOKDOGAN air to air Missile will be enough


The current AIM-120 internal carriage configuration on the F-35 ... ( 4 AIM-120 )
6 AIM-120 is a dream

 

[LegionnairE]

By the way

@LeGenD
I am very impressed by the Warzone author knowing about T38M Arı upgrade. That's some journalism right there.

İf F-35 cost $85 million , then Why Czech Republic to pay $6.5 billion for 24 F-35 ?

$270 million for per F-35 ,, because of as part of a package


Germany clinches $8 billion purchase of 35 F-35
$228 million for per F-35

F 35's spare parts, operation, maintenance and flight costs are very expensive.
1 F35 vs 10 KIZILELMA

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and KIZILELMA doesnt need AIM-120D or something like it
enemy Fighter Jets will detect KIZILELMA Block2 from 43 km away
100+ km GOKDOGAN air to air Missile will be enough


The current AIM-120 internal carriage configuration on the F-35 ... ( 4 AIM-120 )
6 AIM-120 is a dream
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A million things go into these deals, anybody who spent any time observing this sector, who has two brain cells to rub together, knows that's not the real cost of the plane.

And Turkey was getting over %100 offset deals, meaning all the money we paid for F35 was coming back to Turkey. We were basically getting these planes for free.

 

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This mental midget will trash talk about F-16V and Rafale and defend Erdo's begging for the same F16 at the same breath.

Nobody is begging for F-16
Turkiye is not stupid to pay $20 billion for 40 F-16V and VIPER kits

Turkiye will spend $20 billion for KAAN project and OZGUR-2 upgrade


Even add MURAD AESA Radar with GOKHAN ramjet powered air to air Missile to HURJET and easly can match with Greek F-16V in BVR combat

A million things go into these deals, anybody who spent any time observing this sector, who has two brain cells to rub together, knows that's not the real cost of the plane.

KIZILELMA doesnt need million things and Pilot to spend $228 million for per unit


KIZILELMA is cost effective solution
and far better option than American control flying computer F-35 which can not even take off without American permission ( codes ) in a war


Ukranian Engine is old technology
KIZILELMA Block2 will be more powerful and stealthier with TF-10.000 new gen turbofan Engine

F-16V and RAFALE won't have a chance against KIZILELMA Block2 in BVR combat

 

[LegionnairE]

Nobody is begging for F-16

Nice mental gymnastics

 

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Nice mental gymnastics

or Nice progress

-- KAAN project continues at full speed .. ( first flight on 27 december 2023 )
-- HURJET made the first flight
-- OZGUR-2 upgrade program was officially launched
-- KIZILELMA enter mass production in 2024 ... according to BAYKAR
-- TEI produce first prototype of TF-10.000 turbofan Engine
-- MURAD AESA Radar was integrated into AKINCI UCAV ... and soon into F-16

SIPER Block1 Air Defense System enter service very soon
150-250+ km SIPER Block2 on the way

100+ km GOKDOGAN air to air Missile enter mass production in 2024 and delivery in 2025
GOKHAN ramjet powered air to air Missile project continues at full speed

4 HAVASOJ stand off jammer Aircraft enter service as of 2026-2027

20 KAAN Fighter Jets will be delivered to the Turkish Air Force in 2028


if USA approval sale of 40 F-16V to Turkiye now
Turkiye will wait for 40 F-16V at least 5 years

Almost all Turkish military projects will be completed until 2028.

 

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Ignorant kids still dreaming about old technology RAFALE


20 KAAN Fighter Jets will be delivered to the Turkish Air Force in 2028
and KAAN will kick old RAFALE in BVR combat before RAFALE detect KAAN ....

Range of engagement
KAAN : 175 km
Old RAFALE : 45-50 km


Meet the Europe's best Fighter Jet in 2028
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even KIZILELMA block2 will kick F-16V in BVR combat

Range of engagement
KIZILELMA B2 : 90 km
F-16V : 43 km
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And KIZILELMA will help Turkish F-16s to turn Greek F-16Vs into scrap of metal

When Greek F-16Vs will be bussy to match with Turkish F-16s , suddenly KIZILELMA will come and kick Greek F-16V in BVR combat

A new era in aviation
The first time in the world
Unmanned fighter jet and manned fighter jet flew together at the same time

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Thanks to stealth technology with composite material - internal weapon bay
and MURAD AESA Radar with 100+ km GOKDOGAN air to air missile


go and sleep now ignorant Kids ...

He is talking your current f16s and Greek rafale/f16V

Not KAAN vs rafale and your kaan will reach in mass production after 2030

 

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Not KAAN vs rafale and your kaan will reach in mass production after 2030

20 KAAN Fighter Jets will be delivered to the Turkish Air Force in 2028


btw now Turkiye has 192 S400 air defense missiles ( 250-380 km ) to turn 10 Greek F-16V and 17 RAFALE into scrap of metal

and 100+ km SIPER Block1 Air Defense System enter service very soon

also KIZILELMA enter mass production in 2024 ... according to BAYKAR

 

[White and Green with M/S]

20 KAAN Fighter Jets will be delivered to the Turkish Air Force in 2028


btw now Turkiye has 192 S400 air defense missiles ( 250-380 km ) to turn 10 Greek F-16V and 17 RAFALE into scrap of metal

and 100+ km SIPER Block1 Air Defense System enter service very soon

also KIZILELMA enter mass production in 2024 ... according to BAYKAR

Fighter projects have often delays

We saw the performance of s400 in Ukraine war its a garbage system

And talk when than your SAMs and drone will operationalized its takes years to develop a tactics using manned and unmanned combos

 

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This mental midget will trash talk about F-16V and Rafale and defend Erdo's begging for the same F16 at the same breath.

I'll bet this guy used to think the F-35 is the best aircraft in the world,before the sanctions

btw now Turkiye has 192 S400 air defense missiles ( 250-380 km ) to turn 10 Greek F-16V and 17 RAFALE into scrap of metal

And yet they can't shoot down drones before they reach Moscow and SCALP in Ukraine?

 

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İf F-35 cost $85 million , then Why Czech Republic to pay $6.5 billion for 24 F-35 ?

$270 million for per F-35 ,, because of as part of a package


Germany clinches $8 billion purchase of 35 F-35
$228 million for per F-35

F 35's spare parts, operation, maintenance and flight costs are very expensive.
1 F35 vs 10 KIZILELMA

​

and KIZILELMA doesnt need AIM-120D or something like it
enemy Fighter Jets will detect KIZILELMA Block2 from 43 km away
100+ km GOKDOGAN air to air Missile will be enough


The current AIM-120 internal carriage configuration on the F-35 ... ( 4 AIM-120 )
6 AIM-120 is a dream
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For maintenance/ spares/ simulators/weapons etc etc

 

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We saw the performance of s400 in Ukraine war its a garbage system

Even outdated S125 turned American legend F-117 into scrap of metal in 1999


S400 never failed against Fighter Jets in Ukraine
even S400 has kill record in the World
S400 shot down Ukranian SU-27 from 150+ km away


Turkiye has KORKUT , SUNGUR , GURZ , HISAR-A/O and GOKDEMIR to protect S400s from Cruise Missiles

Russians using AD Systems in another Country
We will use it in our Country

And talk when than your SAMs and drone will operationalized its takes years to develop a tactics using manned and unmanned combos

Our HISAR-O SAMs already in service
and SIPER Block1 enter service in 2023 ... not in 2033


No need using manned and unmanned combos
Not F-16 ,, but ground station will rule KIZILELMA


btw Greeks should pray for ERDOGAN that he spent $100 billion for humanitarian aid to other countries instead of buying/producing more weapons

Turkiye would buy Greek+Egyptian+Israeli Air Forces for $100 billion


We dont care about backward-poor Countries

Turkiye has its own agenda to become one of top 5 Countries in aviation industry and we can do it until 2028-2030

and Turkiye increase defense budget to $40 billion for 2024

 

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Even outdated S125 turned American legend F-117 into scrap of metal in 1999


S400 never failed against Fighter Jets in Ukraine
even S400 has kill record in the World
S400 shot down Ukranian SU-27 from 150+ km away


Turkiye has KORKUT , SUNGUR , GURZ , HISAR-A/O and GOKDEMIR to protect S400s from Cruise Missiles

Russians using AD Systems in another Country
We will use it in our Country

Exception were happen in all around the world during wars

And Su 27 has big radar cross section of 15m2 but f16v and rafale have much lower radar cross section of 3m2 for f16vs and for rafale 1m2 and Su 27 has a outdated EW systems whereas f16v and rafale have a latest EW systems

We will see how your shord systems save s400 from cruise missiles

 

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And yet they can't shoot down drones before they reach Moscow and SCALP in Ukraine?

S400 is for Fighter Jets
and S400 never failed against Fighter Jets in Ukraine
even S400 has kill record in the World
S400 shot down Ukranian SU-27 from 150+ km away

I'll bet this guy used to think the F-35 is the best aircraft in the world,before the sanctions

in 2019 , I opened a thread and critized F35 before the sanctions


USA-France used sanctions after Turkish military operation in 2020 against PKK-YPG terrorists in Afrin/Syria

USA blocked F35s to Turkiye
MACRON blocked EUROSAM to work with Turkiye


SIPER and KAAN will be our pride

 

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And Su 27 has big radar cross section of 15m2 but f16v and rafale have much lower radar cross section of 3m2 for f16vs and for rafale 1m2 and Su 27 has a outdated EW systems whereas f16v and rafale have a latest EW systems

so funny
even outdated S200 kicked Israeli F-16I

We will see how your shord systems save s400 from cruise missiles

even only KORKUT and HISAR enough to stop low speed Cruise Missiles


Better worry about Greece how to stop great Turkish fire power from Ballistic missiles to cruise missiles and from long rang guided munitions to kamikaze Drones

 

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S400 is for Fighter Jets
and S400 never failed against Fighter Jets in Ukraine
even S400 has kill record in the World
S400 shot down Ukranian SU-27 from 150+ km away

S-400 is basically short range ballistic missile defense system with additional capabilities to intercept fighter jets

Su27 has big RCS and have a outdated EW system whereas f16v and rafale have much lower RCS than su27 and have a latest EW systems

so funny
even outdated S200 kicked Israeli F-16I

I already said exception were happen in for war and tell me how many f16i shot down by s200 and at what range??