Turkish Armed Forces Missile Power / deterrent and unstoppable

[AUz]

So u think its just the range that counts? Even the US disnt have long range missiles due to treaty but now they have it in no time. Increasing range of missiles only increases enemies and raises eyebrows.

No, range doesn't matter after a certain level of sophistication is reached. Turkey has not yet reached that level of sophistication in missile building. Not saying it can't, but it hasn't yet.

The day Turkey successfully inducts a medium-ranged, multi-stage, solid rocketmotor ballistic missile with 2000km range or so----that day your comment will stand true. For now, Turkey isn't a missile power like Iran, Russia, India, US, Pakistan etc are.

 

[Ceylal]

Turkish Armed Forces have great Missile fire power to harm Egypt and Greece in the region


-- OMTAS and MIZRAK Anti Tank Missiles
-- TOW , MILAN , ERYX , KONKURS and KORNET Anti Tank Missiles
-- MAM-L laser guided smart Ammunition

-- TRG-122 guided MLRS
-- TRG-300 guided MLRS
-- ATACMS Tactical Ballistic Missile
-- J600-T Tactical Ballistic Missile
-- KHAN/BORA Ballistic Missile
-- AGM-65 MAVERICK air-to-ground Missile
-- STINGER MANPADS
-- HAWK-XXI Air Defense Missile
-- HISAR-A and HISAR-O Air Defense Missiles
-- S400 Air Defense Missile
-- SM-1MR Air Defense Missile
-- ESSM Air Defense Missile
-- AIM-9x sidewinder air to air Missile
-- AIM-120B air to air Missile
-- AIM-120C7 air to air Missile
-- GOKDOGAN air to air Missile
-- BOZDOGAN air to air Missile
-- HARM anti radiation Missile
-- POPEYE air launched Cruise Missile
-- SLAM-ER air launched Cruise Missile
-- SOM-B air launched Cruise Missile
-- SOM-C air launched anti ship Missile
-- PENGUIN anti ship Missile
-- HARPOON anti ship Missile
-- ATMACA anti ship Missile

1 ) Turkish UCAVs armed with MAM-L and MIZRAK Missiles to destroy enemy Tanks , Howitzers , MLRS and Air Defense Systems

Turkish Bayraktar-TB2 and ANKA-S UCAVs destroyed enemy Tanks , Howitzers , MLRS and Russian made PANTSIR-S1 Air Defense Systems in Syria and Libya

Turkish AKSUNGUR and AKINCI UCAVs to carry 8-16 MIZRAK anti Tank Missiles to destroy even Egyptian Army M1A1 Tanks , if Egyptian Army enter Libya for Sirte ( 800km away from Egypt-Libya border )

2 ) Turkish Airforce has 800+ AGM-65 MAVERICK air-to-ground missiles for 192 F-16s close air support role .... It will be very effective against Tanks and PANTSIR-S1 Air Defense Systems

Warhead : 57 kg
Range : 22+ km

3 ) Greek Air Defense Systems , Air Bases , Jet Hangars , Naval Ports , Military and Strategic targets are in range of Turkish Missile Systems

-- 120 km TRG-300 guided MLRS
-- 150 km J600-T Tactical Ballistic Missile
-- 165 km ATACMS Tactical Ballistic Missile
-- 280 km KHAN Tactical Ballistic Missile

and Turkiye has already single stage Ballistic Missile technology up to 1.000 km

4 ) Turkish Navy 12 Frigates armed with 608 of SM-1MR and ESSM Air Defense Missiles

ESSM designed to intercept even supersonic anti ship missiles like KH-31 , ONIKS , BRAHMOS

5 ) HISAR-A and HISAR-O Air Defense Systems enter service to interpect Cruise Missiles , Helicopters , UCAVs and Fighter Jets

even Turkiye deployed HISAR-O Air Defense System in Idlib/Syria

6 ) Turkiye bought S-400 Air Defense System which is one of the best in the world for Anti Access/Area Denial (A2/AD) capabilities

if needed , Turkiye can active S400 Air Defense Systems in 48 hours

7 ) Turkish Airforce has hundreds of 75km AIM-120B and 120km AIM-120C7 air to air missiles

Egyptian Airforce F-16s lacks AMRAAM and Rafale Fighter Jets armed with only 60km MICA air to air Missiles

Turkish Airforce has network centric warfare capability ( F-16s + Link-16 datalink + AIM-120C7 networked air to air missile + Boeing E-7T AEWCs )

8 ) Turkiye has developed ATMACA anti ship Missile which will be in service by 2020

Range : 220+ km
Guidance/Seeker : RF+IIR and Data Link for land attack capability

ATMACA Missile will have capability to attack Greek PATRIOT Air Defense Systems in Skyros , Athens and Thessaloniki
also there will be coastal defense variant

also Turkish Navy 16 Frigates , 4 Corvettes , 8 Submarines and 22 FACs armed with hundreds of HARPOON anti ship Missiles

9 ) Turkish Airforce has great SEAD/DEAD role capabilities to attack Air Defense Systems , also Air Bases , Jet Hangars and Warships

-- 77+ km POPEYE
-- 150 km HARM
-- 280 km SLAM-ER
-- 280km SOM

Egyptian Airforce F-16 , MIG-29M2 and RAFALE Fighter Jets lacks long range land attack Cruise Missile

Impressive! But unstoppable?

 

[-------]

No, range doesn't matter after a certain level of sophistication is reached. Turkey has not yet reached that level of sophistication in missile building. Not saying it can't, but it hasn't yet.

The day Turkey successfully inducts a medium-ranged, multi-stage, solid rocketmotor ballistic missile with 2000km range or so----that day your comment will stand true. For now, Turkey isn't a missile power like Iran, Russia, India, US, Pakistan etc are.

Turkey doesn't have a nuclear programme for weapons, where a ballistic missile would be of some use - so resources were never spent in that context towards that goal.

Turkey is more interested in space launch vehicles, which is a far more complex task of which many ballistic missile
Producers do not even have that capability.

Within 5 years, you'll see Turkey launching 1-ton satellites into orbit.

 

[MMM-E]

Impressive! But unstoppable?

Greece , Egypt , ASSAD Regime are dreaming about fighting the Turkish Armed Forces

Yes unstoppable
how can Greece or ASSAD Regime stop Turkish Missile Power ?

-- 415 of SOM air launched stealth Cruise Missiles
-- Hundreds of J600T , ATACMS and KHAN Tactical Ballistic Missiles
-- 97 POPEYE , 95 HARM and 50 SLAM-ER Missiles
-- 100 HARPY and hundreds of KARGI anti radiation Drones
-- Hundreds of HARPOON block II and ATMACA block II land attack Cruise Missiles
-- Hundreds of 110 km KGK , 150+ km KGK-LR and 130 km JSOW glide Bombs

and soon 110 km KUZGUN joint strike Missile with IIR seeker and 100+ km MRASHM Missile with IIR seeker for land attack by Turkish AKSUNGUR and AKINCI UCAVs also F-16 Fighter Jets


Turkish missile/glide bomb/anti radiation projects after 2012

-- SOM
-- ATMACA
-- KHAN/BORA
-- KARGI
-- KGK/KGK-LR
-- and soon KUZGUN , AKBABA ,MRASHM also GEZGIN

also Air Defense Systems HISAR-A and HISAR-O .. also by 2023 SIPER high altitude air defense System and HAVASOJ airborne stand off jammer Aircraft to jam Air Defense Systems from 400km away

 

[925boy]

Impressive! But unstoppable?

Turkey's timing to step out of the NATO security "shell" seems quite good, because at the end of the day, US cant even protect its allies today. Trump let US troops die in Afghanistan from Russian bounties and Trump didnt give a damn, so US is very self focused these days...

 

[MMM-E]

Turkey's timing to step out of the NATO security "shell" seems quite good

Nobody can attack even NATO member Albania

a few weeks ago
TURAF KC-135R Stratotankers refueling USAF B-1B Bombers over the Black Sea against Russia

 

[AUz]

Turkey doesn't have a nuclear programme for weapons, where a ballistic missile would be of some use - so resources were never spent in that context towards that goal.

Turkey is more interested in space launch vehicles, which is a far more complex task of which many ballistic missile
Producers do not even have that capability.

Within 5 years, you'll see Turkey launching 1-ton satellites into orbit.

Sure, still the point remains that Turkey isn't a major missile power yet. So my original critique of the thread title and premise stands.

Turkey's arsenal of cruise missiles is also limited right now---as extended range SOMs, Gezgin LACM etc are not tested/deployed yet. For now, Turkey's long-range strike capabilities are far limited than comparable missile powers. Long-range cruise missiles should fix this problem in the future.

Btw a tidbit since its a defence forum: It is easier to go from ballistic missiles to basic SLV design as compared to going from basic SLV design to ballistic missile Although, any country capable of one can achieve the second, if it really gets serious about it.

 

[MMM-E]

This thread about the region
and Turkiye is Missile Power to harm ASSAD Regime , Greece and Egypt who are dreaming about fighting the Turkish Armed Forces

and Turkiye develops almost all kind of Missiles ( excluding ICBM and SLBM ... because of no nuclear program )


1 ) Now Turkiye has its own SOM and ATMACA Missiles with indigenous KTJ-3200 turbojet engine to produce even thousands of units to hit Air Defense Systems , Air Bases , Jet Hangars , Warships in Greece and Egypt combined .... ( Greece , Egypt dont have their own Cruise and anti ship missiles )

and SOM Cruise Missile has far superior range than PATRIOT , SAMP-T , S300 , DAVID'S SLING Air Defense Systems to allow Turkish Pilots firing Missile from safe distance


2 ) Turkish Army TRG-300 guided MLRS , J600T , ATACMS , KHAN/BORA Ballistic Missiles can hit Air Defense Systems , Air Bases , Jet Hangars ,,etc in Greece , Greek Islands , Syria and Egypt


3 ) Turkish Army/Navy/Airforce Bayraktar TB-2 , ANKA-S , AKSUNGUR , AKINCI UCAVs and T-129 Attack Helicopters , Seahawk ASW Helicopters and F-4 , F-16 Fighter Jets to be armed with MAM-L , MIZRAK , MAVERICK , PENGUIN , HARM , KUZGUN , GOKDOGAN , BOZDOGAN , AIM-120B , AIM-120C7 , POPEYE , SLAM-ER and SOM Missiles , also SM-1MR , ESSM , HAWK-XXI , HISAR-A , HISAR-O and S400 Air Defense Missiles to destroy enemy Air Defense Systems , Air Bases , Jet Hangars , Warships , Helicopters , UCAVs , Fighter Jets , Tanks , Howitzers , MLRS , etc





btw Turkiye becomes major missile producer in the world ( including upcoming projects within 5 years )

-- OMTAS Anti Tank Missile
-- KARAOK shoulder launched Anti Tank Missile
-- SUNGUR MANPADS
-- MIZRAK Anti Tank Missile for Attack Helicopters and UCAVs
-- CIRIT 70 mm laser guided Missile for Attack Helicopters
-- TRG-122 guided MLRS
-- TRG-300 guided MLRS
-- J600T Tactical Ballistic Missile
-- KHAN/BORA Ballistic Missiles
-- SOM-B air launched land attack Cruise Missile
-- SOM-ER air launched long range land attack Cruise Missile
-- SOM-C air launched anti ship missile
-- MRASHM medium range air launched anti ship missile
-- ATMACA anti ship and land attack Cruise Missile
-- RAMJET powered supersonic Anti ship Missile
-- Anti ship Ballistic Missile based on BORA Ballistic Missile
-- GEZGIN land/naval launched long range Cruise Missile
-- KUZGUN joint strike Missile
-- AKBABA anti radiation Missile
-- SAPAN Rolling Airframe Missile
-- TEMREN Missile for Navy Helicopters
-- BURAK Space Probe Rocket and Launch System
-- UMIT Space Launch System
-- HISAR-A low altitude Air Defense Missile
-- HISAR-O medium altitude Air Defense Missile
-- SIPER high altitude Air Defense Missile
-- HISAR-C RAM
-- G-40 Naval Air Defense Missile
-- BOZDOGAN air to air Missile
-- GOKDOGAN air to air Missile
-- AKDOGAN Ramjet powered long range air to air Missile

and GUMS anti Ballistic Missile Defense System until 2030

 

[TNT]

No, range doesn't matter after a certain level of sophistication is reached. Turkey has not yet reached that level of sophistication in missile building. Not saying it can't, but it hasn't yet.

The day Turkey successfully inducts a medium-ranged, multi-stage, solid rocketmotor ballistic missile with 2000km range or so----that day your comment will stand true. For now, Turkey isn't a missile power like Iran, Russia, India, US, Pakistan etc are.

It depends on the national security requirements. Turkey does not need a 2000km range missile. As i said having a long range missile makes the new countries in range of that missile suspicious of ur intention and raises eyebrows. I am still sure if Turkey wants they can have intermediate range and mid range missiles in no time. If iran and Pakistan can make them then it's no issue for Turkey.

 

[Ceylal]

Turkey's timing to step out of the NATO security "shell" seems quite good, because at the end of the day, US cant even protect its allies today. Trump let US troops die in Afghanistan from Russian bounties and Trump didnt give a damn, so US is very self focused these days...

Trump was elected on the promise that he will call the troops home..He is just doing that...Turkey is a NATO member, and whatever she does, she does it to expand NATO influence, just as France and other members..Turkey will never quit NATO, and NATO, will never get rid of Turkey...

Nobody can attack even NATO member Albania

a few weeks ago
TURAF KC-135R Stratotankers refueling USAF B-1B Bombers over the Black Sea against Russia

And?

 

[925boy]

Trump was elected on the promise that he will call the troops home..He is just doing that...

NO he is not. Trump said he would, but in reality, he really hasnt. i read about this already,but i agree, this is what he said he would do...oh well, if pulling our of US's wars was so easy for US presidents... he only pulled out of afghanistan because of a succesful peace deal wit hthe taliban, THATS IT. US military is still stalling out of exiting Iraq, US troops are still in Saudi, UAE, Bahrain, etc. actions on the ground dont support what you're saying bra.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/10/18/trump-pulling-out-middle-east-syria-isolationist-war-making/

Turkey is a NATO member, and whatever she does, she does it to expand NATO influence,

hmm...i kind of agree with this...but a NATO with a passive US is an unstable and incompetent NATO(relative to the capabilities and US-supported confidence it should have )

just as France and other members..Turkey will never quit NATO, and NATO, will never get rid of Turkey...

I agree, but the addiction to membership in NATO is the ultimate confirmation of lesser confidence in one's capabilities.

Nobody can attack even NATO member Albania

a few weeks ago
TURAF KC-135R Stratotankers refueling USAF B-1B Bombers over the Black Sea against Russia

i'm happy Turkey sees supporting US global imperialism as "DOING THE RIGHT THING". you guys will get the biggest shock of your life when your realize US wont do for you what you beg to do for US.

 

[MMM-E]

i'm happy Turkey sees supporting US global imperialism as "DOING THE RIGHT THING". you guys will get the biggest shock of your life when your realize US wont do for you what you beg to do for US.

or Iran will get the biggest shock of its life when your realize Russia wont do for you what you beg to do for Russia
without Russia , Iran is nothing in SYria and Russia always allowed Israel to bomb Iranian targets in Syria

 

[waduhek]

This thread about the region
and Turkiye is Missile Power to harm ASSAD Regime , Greece and Egypt who are dreaming about fighting the Turkish Armed Forces

and Turkiye develops almost all kind of Missiles ( excluding ICBM and SLBM ... because of no nuclear program )


1 ) Now Turkiye has its own SOM and ATMACA Missiles with indigenous KTJ-3200 turbojet engine to produce even thousands of units to hit Air Defense Systems , Air Bases , Jet Hangars , Warships in Greece and Egypt combined .... ( Greece , Egypt dont have their own Cruise and anti ship missiles )

and SOM Cruise Missile has far superior range than PATRIOT , SAMP-T , S300 , DAVID'S SLING Air Defense Systems to allow Turkish Pilots firing Missile from safe distance


2 ) Turkish Army TRG-300 guided MLRS , J600T , ATACMS , KHAN/BORA Ballistic Missiles can hit Air Defense Systems , Air Bases , Jet Hangars ,,etc in Greece , Greek Islands , Syria and Egypt


3 ) Turkish Army/Navy/Airforce Bayraktar TB-2 , ANKA-S , AKSUNGUR , AKINCI UCAVs and T-129 Attack Helicopters , Seahawk ASW Helicopters and F-4 , F-16 Fighter Jets to be armed with MAM-L , MIZRAK , MAVERICK , PENGUIN , HARM , KUZGUN , GOKDOGAN , BOZDOGAN , AIM-120B , AIM-120C7 , POPEYE , SLAM-ER and SOM Missiles , also SM-1MR , ESSM , HAWK-XXI , HISAR-A , HISAR-O and S400 Air Defense Missiles to destroy enemy Air Defense Systems , Air Bases , Jet Hangars , Warships , Helicopters , UCAVs , Fighter Jets , Tanks , Howitzers , MLRS , etc





btw Turkiye becomes major missile producer in the world ( including upcoming projects within 5 years )

-- OMTAS Anti Tank Missile
-- KARAOK shoulder launched Anti Tank Missile
-- SUNGUR MANPADS
-- MIZRAK Anti Tank Missile for Attack Helicopters and UCAVs
-- CIRIT 70 mm laser guided Missile for Attack Helicopters
-- TRG-122 guided MLRS
-- TRG-300 guided MLRS
-- J600T Tactical Ballistic Missile
-- KHAN/BORA Ballistic Missiles
-- SOM-B air launched land attack Cruise Missile
-- SOM-ER air launched long range land attack Cruise Missile
-- SOM-C air launched anti ship missile
-- MRASHM medium range air launched anti ship missile
-- ATMACA anti ship and land attack Cruise Missile
-- RAMJET powered supersonic Anti ship Missile
-- Anti ship Ballistic Missile based on BORA Ballistic Missile
-- GEZGIN land/naval launched long range Cruise Missile
-- KUZGUN joint strike Missile
-- AKBABA anti radiation Missile
-- SAPAN Rolling Airframe Missile
-- TEMREN Missile for Navy Helicopters
-- BURAK Space Probe Rocket and Launch System
-- UMIT Space Launch System
-- HISAR-A low altitude Air Defense Missile
-- HISAR-O medium altitude Air Defense Missile
-- SIPER high altitude Air Defense Missile
-- HISAR-C RAM
-- G-40 Naval Air Defense Missile
-- BOZDOGAN air to air Missile
-- GOKDOGAN air to air Missile
-- AKDOGAN Ramjet powered long range air to air Missile

and GUMS anti Ballistic Missile Defense System until 2030

xd

 

[The SC]

I'm all for your informative posts, but why do you have to take to a cheesey route and point at our adversaries, no need to include them. They will know either way, right? Dosta güven düşmana korku.

Why did you stop your guts at the Egyptian red line in Libya.. you want to see and feel some deterrent missiles on your crazy arrogant heads?

 

[925boy]

or Iran will get the biggest shock of its life when your realize Russia wont do for you what you beg to do for Russia
without Russia , Iran is nothing in SYria and Russia always allowed Israel to bomb Iranian targets in Syria

To think Iran doesnt know Russia is untrustworthy is to be a bit naive at the minimum- Iran has seen and learnt through multiple experiences, how Russia will sideline Iran for its interests...Iran saw how Russia delayed from delivering those S300s even though they were not offensive weapons and subject to the arms ban on Iran..even historically, USSR betrayed and abused Iran more than US and UK combined. Iran just works with RUssia on what it can/ keeping a practical mindset given the sanctions-based context Iran exists in now, and Russia makes ....good weapons....sometimes you have to think with your head, not your ego. Still beneficial for Iran to access, breakdown, acquire, learn more about Russian weapon systems...just like universities doing international study programs...exchanges are benefiticial in learning.