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The Turkish Diplomat wrote Article in Daily Prothom Alo during the attempted Coup Explaining the vileness of Gulen. He was never out of his job and was supposed to come back to Bangladesh today or tomorrow.
 
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Meanwhile in another news
http://www.theindependentbd.com/post/55623
These idiots and their drama.

Which part of the news seemed drama to you?
and Which part the stupidity?

Gulen works like Jamat e Islam in Bangladesh. Jamat tries to lure poor religious kids during their school life and helps them to become journalist, lawyer or powerful figure to infiltrate the system. Heck Even Awamileague believes there are Jamatis inside Awamileague. Gulen community worked in this way. And Erdogan is arresting Lawyers Teachers Journalists Civil officers who has ties with Gulen.

I remember when I was in class 7 I heard some of my classmates were going to a gathering in the mosque where Islamic books would be given by some people. I went there with them. There were some discussionss and at the end A committee was formed but I wasn't there. I felt insulted but later I learnt that they intentionally kept my name out not to enrage my parents.
 
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Jamaat's hopes and dreams crumbling infront of their eyes...Hasina has won...Saudi Turkey both have turned their backs on Jamaat....no matter how you cry about Prothom alo gouhar rizvi delhi israel satan malaun kuffar murtad you have lost and your leaders are dead.
LOL. Jamaat has only been strengthened by the war trials. No longer can Hasina call them "Razakars" after the killing of all the leaders. The only thing that is stopping Jamaat from forming an Islamic Union party is it's affiliation with BNP.

Also, Turkey still support Jamaat and Erdogan recently has recently called on the end of persecution of Jamaat leaders. In fact with the war trials, I say AKP will back Jamaat into forming an Islamist party.

And for your later part, aren't you trying a bit too hard. Your dear Hasina will fall, just like her father did and it will be the same reason. Her brothers thought they owned the country and got themselves killed, now she and her son thinks the same.

Which part of the news seemed drama to you?
and Which part the stupidity?

Gulen works like Jamat e Islam in Bangladesh. Jamat tries to lure poor religious kids during their school life and helps them to become journalist, lawyer or powerful figure to infiltrate the system. Heck Even Awamileague believes there are Jamatis inside Awamileague. Gulen community worked in this way. And Erdogan is arresting Lawyers Teachers Journalists Civil officers who has ties with Gulen.
Yet Erdogan backs Jamaat.
 
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Which part of the news seemed drama to you?
and Which part the stupidity?

Stupidity was pulling ther diplomat out and condemning JeI leader's hanging and poking in BD affairs. And also stupidity is whole Gulen coup and counter coup things and the events still following. These are all drama to me.

I admit it gave me slight amusement knowing the Gulen event out of contempt.
 
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LOL. Jamaat has only been strengthened by the war trials. No longer can Hasina call them "Razakars" after the killing of all the leaders. The only thing that is stopping Jamaat from forming an Islamic Union party is it's affiliation with BNP.

Also, Turkey still support Jamaat and Erdogan recently has recently called on the end of persecution of Jamaat leaders. In fact with the war trials, I say AKP will back Jamaat into forming an Islamist party.

And for your later part, aren't you trying a bit too hard. Your dear Hasina will fall, just like her father did and it will be the same reason. Her brothers thought they owned the country and got themselves killed, now she and her son thinks the same.


Yet Erdogan backs Jamaat.
Whatever makes you sleep at night...I understand in a friendless world you would like to imagine how everyone secretly supports you and loves you...you can imagine that a snake without its head is somewhat stronger because people won't call it a snake anymore. Turkey pulled their ambassador as a protest for the hangings...if he were as committed to you as you think he would not have sent their ambassador back.....it just shows Jamaat has lost the last international support it had and Hasina can now effectively wipe it out without anyone batting at night...but you go on and believe what you want...if you have sleepless nights look at the moon...you'll probably see Sayeedi's face there.
 
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Jamaat's hopes and dreams crumbling infront of their eyes...Hasina has won...Saudi Turkey both have turned their backs on Jamaat....no matter how you cry about Prothom alo gouhar rizvi delhi israel satan malaun kuffar murtad you have lost and your leaders are dead.

ignorance is bliss and that you are a living example in this forum. I have nothing to do with political parties BUT will speak against injustice even it is done against Jews. That being said Jamat leadership and party is victim of indian and awami league judicial killing and state sponsored terror. That Bangladesh judiciary today run from delhi by using proxy and gun power of RAB, police manned by Awami League terrorist and killing squad operated by indians from different safe house across big cities. Jamaat ideology as political party is for justice based on faith in Allah and Islamic values. Neither Awami League nor india can defeat that ideology and if history is any indication even greater power than indo-awami duo tried and failed against faith of Islam. No, Saudis and Turkey did not turn their back on common faith they share with Jammat. They understood Awami League is a india installed dictator and keep working for Bangladeshi people and their welfare are more important than current regime.
 
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ignorance is bliss and that you are a living example in this forum. I have nothing to do with political parties BUT will speak against injustice even it is done against Jews. That being said Jamat leadership and party is victim of indian and awami league judicial killing and state sponsored terror. That Bangladesh judiciary today run from delhi by using proxy and gun power of RAB, police manned by Awami League terrorist and killing squad operated by indians from different safe house across big cities. Jamaat ideology as political party is for justice based on faith in Allah and Islamic values. Neither Awami League nor india can defeat that ideology and if history is any indication even greater power than indo-awami duo tried and failed against faith of Islam. No Saudis and Turkey did not turn their back on common faith they share with Jammat. They understood Awami League is a india installed dictator and keep working for Bangladeshi people and their welfare are more important than current regime.
Cute.... I wish you would speak up for the scores of people that the party of Allah helped massacre in 1971...don't bullshit me that you would stand up for Jews....you are traitor to your own people and support a genocidal party that is antithetical to everything Bangladesh stands and you dare to lecture me on justice. Shame on you and all religious bigots like you!
 
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Cute.... I wish you would speak up for the scores of people that the party of Allah helped massacre in 1971...don't bullshit me that you would stand up for Jews....you are traitor to your own people and support a genocidal party that is antithetical to everything Bangladesh stands and you dare to lecture me on justice. Shame on you and all religious bigots like you!

Here is your indo awami lie exposed by David Bergman and showing genocide actually committing by indo awami forces.

Bangladesh war crimes tribunal in the dock
Apparent forced disappearance of a key defence witness for Jemaat-e-Islami puts trial's integrity in the spotlight.

By
David Bergman

  • Dhaka, Bangladesh - With the conviction of Bangladesh’s most prominent war crimes defendant on Monday, the case of a defence witness who disappeared for six months before turning up in an Indian prison has raised questions about the integrity of the controversial tribunal.

    Shukhoranjan Bali - who is languishing in an Indian jail in Kolkata - said in a May statement given to a Bangladesh-based newspaper he was taken away by police when he stepped out of a car in front of the gates of the International Crimes Tribunal (ICT) in Dhaka in November last year.

    Bali was on his way to give evidence on behalf of Delwar Hossain Sayedee, another defendant accused of committing acts of genocide and crimes against humanity during the country's 1971 independence war.

    2013530115154894580_20.jpg

    War crimes verdict raises fears of violence [EPA]
    Bali's claim that he was abducted by Bangladeshi police supports allegations made in November 2012 by three of Sayedee's defence lawyers. However, the government and tribunal authorities have consistently denied that Bali had been abducted by law enforcement officers.

    In February 2013, the tribunal sentenced Sayedee to death by hanging for two crimes committed during the war 42 years ago, one of which involved the killing of Bali's brother, Bisha.

    Sayedee is one of more than a dozen men, mostly leaders of the political party Jamaat-e-Islami, either convicted or currently on trial for crimes committed during the bloody fight for independence.

    Jamaat-e-Islami had opposed the break-up of Pakistan and the independence of Bangladesh. In the war that followed, its supporters are accused of setting up militias that fought alongside the Pakistani army.

    The tribunal was set up in 2010 by the Awami League-led government to try those accused of crimes during the nine-month war that killed hundreds of thousands of people. Acts of mass murder, rape and arson were routinely carried out.

    Jamaat-e-Islami - part of the opposition alliance headed by the Bangladesh Nationalist Party - says the war crimes tribunal is politically motivated to target its top leaders. But many Bangladeshis want it to bring justice for the crimes committed more than 40 years ago.

    Ghulam Azam, 90, the head of Jamaat-e-Islami during the war, was convicted of war crimes on Monday and sentenced to 90 years in prison. There were concerns about possible violence erupting after Azam's conviction.

    Taken away

    The tribunal process has been controversial from its inception, and the story of the witness Bali’s disappearance has added to that.

    According to the defence lawyers with him at the time, Bali was taken away by three plainclothes policemen who identified themselves as from the Detective Branch of the police and was put into a police vehicle that drove off.

    No independent eyewitnesses came forward to corroborate this version of events - though two journalists working for a newspaper that supports Jamaat-e-Islami were present and confirmed the lawyers' story.

    His wife and son also confirmed Bali had gone to Dhaka to give evidence at the tribunal.



    The defence lawyers raised concerns with the tribunal's judges, who requested the head of the tribunal's prosecution and investigation agencies look into the matter. They returned to the court an hour later saying police officers on duty all denied that Bali had been detained by authorities.

    For the tribunal, that was the end of the matter and proceedings resumed.

    Defence attorney Abdur Razzaq told Al Jazeera that Bali was "a very important witness" in Sayedee's case.

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    Jamaat-e-Islami's Delwar Hossain Sayedee in 2011 [AFP]
    "He has not been allowed to come to the court and depose and say 'my brother was killed, but not by Delwar Hossain Sayedee.'"

    Sayedee's case is now under appeal at Bangladesh's Supreme Court. It is unclear if Bali's evidence would alter the guilty verdict, as other eyewitnesses put Sayedee at the scene of Bisha Bali's killing.

    Bali's credibility may also be questioned since he previously was listed as a prosecution witness. An investigation officer has said Bali previously gave a strong statement implicating Sayedee in his brother's death.

    "Armed Rajakers [collaborators] captured my brother Bisha Bali … Then according to the order of Delwar Hossain Sayedee, alias Delu, a Rajaker shot and killed my brother," the officer quoted Bali as saying in an unsigned statement, which wasn't used to convict Sayedee.

    Bali also said in the statement issued from the Indian jail that he had been approached by one of Sayedee's sons at his home to testify on his father's behalf, and Bali later spent two weeks at Sayedee's house.

    'Unacceptable drama'

    Immediately after the alleged abduction in November 2012, tribunal prosecutors issued a statement saying the whole episode surrounding Bali was an "unacceptable drama" and "part of [Jamaat-e-Islami] trying to dismiss the tribunal and to release their leader unlawfully".

    When the matter came up in a habeas corpus application at the High Court, the attorney general stated the story of Bali's alleged abduction "was absolutely ridiculous".

    But in the statement obtained by Bangladesh's New Age newspaper from Bali at Kolkata's Dum Dum jail, he said he was abducted by Bangladeshi officers from outside the tribunal and taken to a police station.

    They tortured me and asked me what I had been doing there ... They probably did not find my answers satisfactory, and I was beaten even more profusely.

    Shukhoranjan Bali

    "They said that I will be killed and Sayedee sahib will be hanged," Bali said, adding he was not physically abused in Dhaka.

    He said he remained in detention in the capital for six weeks before being blindfolded and "handed over" to India's Border Security Force (BSF) in December 2012.

    Bali said he had been detained in various Indian jails for months, during which time he alleged physical abuse at the hands of the BSF.

    "They tortured me and asked me what I had been doing there," Bali's statement said. "They probably did not find my answers satisfactory, and I was beaten even more profusely."

    No independent confirmation exists to substantiate Bali's allegations.

    Calls to a senior Border Security Force official in India rang unanswered. Requests for comment from India's Ministry of Home Affairs were not responded to.

    Bangladesh's police, meanwhile, continue to deny involvement in Bali's alleged abduction.

    Masuder Rahman, the media officer of the Dhaka Metropolitan Police, said he had "no information" about Bali's disappearance.

    Call for UN intervention

    New York-based Human Rights Watch said Bali's story raises questions about the integrity of the trial process.

    "The apparent abduction of a witness in a trial at the ICT is a cause for serious concern about the conduct of the prosecution, judges and government," said Brad Adams, the group's Asia director. "Among many questions is who ordered the abduction, and how senior the officials involved were."

    2013326142354654734_20.jpg


    It is unclear why Bangladeshi police would have sent Bali to India. Human Rights Watch noted the " notorious " Border Security Force in the past has been known to kill Bangladeshis attempting to enter the country illegally.

    "Those involved in his abduction may have assumed Bali would be killed by the Indian Border Security Force when he was pushed into India, or that he would permanently disappear," Adams said.

    The rights group has called on the Indian government to allow the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees to interview Bali.

    "There is a real risk to Bali if he is returned to Bangladesh, as he could expose those involved in his abduction. Bali needs access to an independent lawyer and UNHCR so that he can make an informed decision about whether it is safe to return to Bangladesh."

    http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2013/05/20135211324212836.html
 
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Here is your indo awami lie exposed by David Bergman and showing genocide actually committing by indo awami forces.

Bangladesh war crimes tribunal in the dock
Apparent forced disappearance of a key defence witness for Jemaat-e-Islami puts trial's integrity in the spotlight.

By
David Bergman

  • Dhaka, Bangladesh - With the conviction of Bangladesh’s most prominent war crimes defendant on Monday, the case of a defence witness who disappeared for six months before turning up in an Indian prison has raised questions about the integrity of the controversial tribunal.

    Shukhoranjan Bali - who is languishing in an Indian jail in Kolkata - said in a May statement given to a Bangladesh-based newspaper he was taken away by police when he stepped out of a car in front of the gates of the International Crimes Tribunal (ICT) in Dhaka in November last year.

    Bali was on his way to give evidence on behalf of Delwar Hossain Sayedee, another defendant accused of committing acts of genocide and crimes against humanity during the country's 1971 independence war.

    2013530115154894580_20.jpg

    War crimes verdict raises fears of violence [EPA]
    Bali's claim that he was abducted by Bangladeshi police supports allegations made in November 2012 by three of Sayedee's defence lawyers. However, the government and tribunal authorities have consistently denied that Bali had been abducted by law enforcement officers.

    In February 2013, the tribunal sentenced Sayedee to death by hanging for two crimes committed during the war 42 years ago, one of which involved the killing of Bali's brother, Bisha.

    Sayedee is one of more than a dozen men, mostly leaders of the political party Jamaat-e-Islami, either convicted or currently on trial for crimes committed during the bloody fight for independence.

    Jamaat-e-Islami had opposed the break-up of Pakistan and the independence of Bangladesh. In the war that followed, its supporters are accused of setting up militias that fought alongside the Pakistani army.

    The tribunal was set up in 2010 by the Awami League-led government to try those accused of crimes during the nine-month war that killed hundreds of thousands of people. Acts of mass murder, rape and arson were routinely carried out.

    Jamaat-e-Islami - part of the opposition alliance headed by the Bangladesh Nationalist Party - says the war crimes tribunal is politically motivated to target its top leaders. But many Bangladeshis want it to bring justice for the crimes committed more than 40 years ago.

    Ghulam Azam, 90, the head of Jamaat-e-Islami during the war, was convicted of war crimes on Monday and sentenced to 90 years in prison. There were concerns about possible violence erupting after Azam's conviction.

    Taken away

    The tribunal process has been controversial from its inception, and the story of the witness Bali’s disappearance has added to that.

    According to the defence lawyers with him at the time, Bali was taken away by three plainclothes policemen who identified themselves as from the Detective Branch of the police and was put into a police vehicle that drove off.

    No independent eyewitnesses came forward to corroborate this version of events - though two journalists working for a newspaper that supports Jamaat-e-Islami were present and confirmed the lawyers' story.

    His wife and son also confirmed Bali had gone to Dhaka to give evidence at the tribunal.



    The defence lawyers raised concerns with the tribunal's judges, who requested the head of the tribunal's prosecution and investigation agencies look into the matter. They returned to the court an hour later saying police officers on duty all denied that Bali had been detained by authorities.

    For the tribunal, that was the end of the matter and proceedings resumed.

    Defence attorney Abdur Razzaq told Al Jazeera that Bali was "a very important witness" in Sayedee's case.

    201322885557487580_20.jpg

    Jamaat-e-Islami's Delwar Hossain Sayedee in 2011 [AFP]
    "He has not been allowed to come to the court and depose and say 'my brother was killed, but not by Delwar Hossain Sayedee.'"

    Sayedee's case is now under appeal at Bangladesh's Supreme Court. It is unclear if Bali's evidence would alter the guilty verdict, as other eyewitnesses put Sayedee at the scene of Bisha Bali's killing.

    Bali's credibility may also be questioned since he previously was listed as a prosecution witness. An investigation officer has said Bali previously gave a strong statement implicating Sayedee in his brother's death.

    "Armed Rajakers [collaborators] captured my brother Bisha Bali … Then according to the order of Delwar Hossain Sayedee, alias Delu, a Rajaker shot and killed my brother," the officer quoted Bali as saying in an unsigned statement, which wasn't used to convict Sayedee.

    Bali also said in the statement issued from the Indian jail that he had been approached by one of Sayedee's sons at his home to testify on his father's behalf, and Bali later spent two weeks at Sayedee's house.

    'Unacceptable drama'

    Immediately after the alleged abduction in November 2012, tribunal prosecutors issued a statement saying the whole episode surrounding Bali was an "unacceptable drama" and "part of [Jamaat-e-Islami] trying to dismiss the tribunal and to release their leader unlawfully".

    When the matter came up in a habeas corpus application at the High Court, the attorney general stated the story of Bali's alleged abduction "was absolutely ridiculous".

    But in the statement obtained by Bangladesh's New Age newspaper from Bali at Kolkata's Dum Dum jail, he said he was abducted by Bangladeshi officers from outside the tribunal and taken to a police station.

    They tortured me and asked me what I had been doing there ... They probably did not find my answers satisfactory, and I was beaten even more profusely.

    Shukhoranjan Bali

    "They said that I will be killed and Sayedee sahib will be hanged," Bali said, adding he was not physically abused in Dhaka.

    He said he remained in detention in the capital for six weeks before being blindfolded and "handed over" to India's Border Security Force (BSF) in December 2012.

    Bali said he had been detained in various Indian jails for months, during which time he alleged physical abuse at the hands of the BSF.

    "They tortured me and asked me what I had been doing there," Bali's statement said. "They probably did not find my answers satisfactory, and I was beaten even more profusely."

    No independent confirmation exists to substantiate Bali's allegations.

    Calls to a senior Border Security Force official in India rang unanswered. Requests for comment from India's Ministry of Home Affairs were not responded to.

    Bangladesh's police, meanwhile, continue to deny involvement in Bali's alleged abduction.

    Masuder Rahman, the media officer of the Dhaka Metropolitan Police, said he had "no information" about Bali's disappearance.

    Call for UN intervention

    New York-based Human Rights Watch said Bali's story raises questions about the integrity of the trial process.

    "The apparent abduction of a witness in a trial at the ICT is a cause for serious concern about the conduct of the prosecution, judges and government," said Brad Adams, the group's Asia director. "Among many questions is who ordered the abduction, and how senior the officials involved were."

    2013326142354654734_20.jpg


    It is unclear why Bangladeshi police would have sent Bali to India. Human Rights Watch noted the " notorious " Border Security Force in the past has been known to kill Bangladeshis attempting to enter the country illegally.

    "Those involved in his abduction may have assumed Bali would be killed by the Indian Border Security Force when he was pushed into India, or that he would permanently disappear," Adams said.

    The rights group has called on the Indian government to allow the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees to interview Bali.

    "There is a real risk to Bali if he is returned to Bangladesh, as he could expose those involved in his abduction. Bali needs access to an independent lawyer and UNHCR so that he can make an informed decision about whether it is safe to return to Bangladesh."

    http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2013/05/20135211324212836.html
A jew said something in support of Jamaat..so it must be true(Let us forget he was paid by Al-Jazeera).

... Jews and the Christians ...should be forced to pay Jizya in order to put an end to their independence and supremacy so that they should not remain rulers and sovereigns in the land. These powers should be wrested from them by the followers of the true Faith, who should assume the sovereignty and lead others towards the Right Way.
-Abul A'la Mawdudi, The Meaning of the Qur'an, vol 2, p. 183.

You are not following proper Jamaati teaching.
 
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A jew said something in support of Jamaat..so it must be true(Let us forget he was paid by Al-Jazeera).

... Jews and the Christians ...should be forced to pay Jizya in order to put an end to their independence and supremacy so that they should not remain rulers and sovereigns in the land..

looks like you are in a mission to prove yourself as biggest BIGOT you can be. It does not matter who he is (Jew or Christians). What matters is he had nothing to do with Bangladesh in 1971 and an independent reporter pointed out indo awami judicial killing with sheer use of gunpower. Fact is - your (and awami) hindu fundamentalist mentality wrapped around "chetona" package hijacked core spirit of Bangladesh independence - equal rights of every Bangladeshi. That is why to awami thugs (like yourself), independence means submission to india and implement hindu fundamentalism under "chetona" package and use almost 50 years old history to divide Bangladeshis, even 2nd and 3rd generation of Bangladeshis and outright kill them. That by NO means is fundamentals of Bangladesh independence.
 
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Cute.... I wish you would speak up for the scores of people that the party of Allah helped massacre in 1971...don't bullshit me that you would stand up for Jews....you are traitor to your own people and support a genocidal party that is antithetical to everything Bangladesh stands and you dare to lecture me on justice. Shame on you and all religious bigots like you!

How is he a traitor if he is a RAW agent? :D
 
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looks like you are in a mission to prove yourself as biggest BIGOT you can be. It does not matter who he is (Jew or Christians). What matters is he had nothing to do with Bangladesh in 1971 and an independent reporter pointed out indo awami judicial killing with sheer use of gunpower. Fact is - your (and awami) hindu fundamentalist mentality wrapped around "chetona" package hijacked core spirit of Bangladesh independence - equal rights of every Bangladeshi. That is why to awami thugs (like yourself), independence means submission to india and implement hindu fundamentalism under "chetona" package and use almost 50 years old history to divide Bangladeshis, even 2nd and 3rd generation of Bangladeshis and outright kill them. That by NO means is fundamentals of Bangladesh independence.
What a moron....YOU capitalized Bergman's name to serve your agenda...not me....Jamaat is literally anti-Bangladeshi....The fundamentals of Bangladeshi independence has NO PLACE for Jamaat....you should be thanking us that we showed you the mercy for letting you live in this country for FOURTY years...Bangladeshis are united against Jamaat...that party does not belong in Bangladesh...because it stood against our independence TWICE...it was against the Pakistan movement AND the Bangladeshi movement..Jamaat should have been banned in Pakistan long before Bangladesh was created....you don't get to teach me Bangladeshi independence...you were against it...this country is my Baaper Shompotti...Jamaat does not and will not have any equal status in MY country until I say so...either they leave or they die...it DOES not matter what you think...it does not matter how many threads you open in PDF...it does not matter what a hired guy says on the internet...it only matters what I as a Bangladeshi say. You don't get to lecture me on the core spirit of Bangladesh...if the core spirit of Bangladesh had a say in the matter Gu Azam would have been fish food in the Bay of Bengal by 1972.
 
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What a moron....YOU capitalized Bergman's name to serve your agenda...not me....Jamaat is literally anti-Bangladeshi....The fundamentals of Bangladeshi independence has NO PLACE for Jamaat....you should be thanking us that we showed you the mercy for letting you live in this country for FOURTY years...Bangladeshis are united against Jamaat...that party does not belong in Bangladesh...because it stood against our independence TWICE...it was against the Pakistan movement AND the Bangladeshi movement..Jamaat should have been banned in Pakistan long before Bangladesh was created....you don't get to teach me Bangladeshi independence...you were against it...this country is my Baaper Shompotti...Jamaat does not and will not have any equal status in MY country until I say so...either they leave or they die...it DOES not matter what you think...it does not matter how many threads you open in PDF...it does not matter what a hired guy says on the internet...it only matters what I as a Bangladeshi say. You don't get to lecture me on the core spirit of Bangladesh...if the core spirit of Bangladesh had a say in the matter Gu Azam would have been fish food in the Bay of Bengal by 1972.

You yourself is totally against the core of Bangladeshi freedom movement. You better stop lecturing here.
 
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