Turkish Air Transporting Israeli Reserve Forces

[xenon54 out]

Big NO...Count Pennies...Eat KFC, Mcdonald, Gym treadmill, Coffee..... Nap

when did i come up with Ummah ??
Ummah was not BS shit Concept but it was not applicable now ... would you suggest same thing when Ottomans running a Caliphate ?

Well, many Arab tribes never really accepted Ottomans as their Caliphs, if there was a Ummah than before Ottomans when the Caliphs was Arabs.

 

[B+ Dracula]

In URDU....we have a word called "GHAIRAT".....It have no near english translation.....but the English word that suits little bit "Modesty"
....That word encompass a feeling of Boiling Blood when something Bad happens under your Nose, In your Circle of Influcence

Like I want to give example of Last Caliph of Ottomans Empire, He was weak ruler of trembling Empire (later he lost his empire), but his Blood Boiled (in fury) when Zionist offered him to purchase PALESTINIAN L LAND FOR HUGE SUM , which he turned down with Contempt
The Last Great Caliph: Abdülhamid II | Lost Islamic History

 

[rockstar08]

Well, many Arab tribes never really accepted Ottomans as their Caliphs, if there was a Ummah than before Ottomans when the Caliphs was Arabs.

dude it depends ... even lots of early muslim deny to accept Abu bakr as khalifa .. so what ? they should leave it ??
dont you think they face more difficult situations than we are facing today ???
those khalifa dont even have access to OIL

what my point is maybe ummah thing is irrelevant ,but not a BS thing .. Ottomans empire was our and your pride ... and they also try to bring Muslim together ..

for the Gif i just order KFC and now planning to dance like him with chicken


Well, many Arab tribes never really accepted Ottomans as their Caliphs, if there was a Ummah than before Ottomans when the Caliphs was Arabs.

 

[xenon54 out]

dude it depends ... even lots of early muslim deny to accept Abu bakr as khalifa .. so what ? they should leave it ??
dont you think they face more difficult situations than we are facing today ???
those khalifa dont even have access to OIL

There is a significant difference between Ottomans and Isis....

what my point is maybe ummah thing is irrelevant ,but not a BS thing .. Ottomans empire was our and your pride ... and they also try to bring Muslim together ..

We have seen how it turned out when Ottoman sultan declared Jihad against Brits and French in WWI.

 

[rockstar08]

There is a significant difference between Ottomans and Isis....



We have seen how it turned out when Ottoman sultan declared Jihad against Brits and French in WWI.

ISIS ? man i am not talking about Abu bakr baghdadi hahahahahah that is nut case ...
i am talking about Abu bakr Siddiq R.A

doesnt matter how it ends ... after getting raped in Vietnam USA still have pride

 

[xenon54 out]

ISIS ? man i am not talking about Abu bakr baghdadi hahahahahah that is nut case ...
i am talking about Abu bakr Siddiq R.A

Opps

doesnt matter how it ends ... after getting raped in Vietnam USA still have pride

We got our pride throught the victory in Gallipoli, your asking yourself why Turks have such a strong Nationalism after centurys of being part of Caliphate?
Well there is your answer, we were fighting a war with a much bigger and stronger enemy who used our fellow muslims against us, we sent every men, women and children to the front to save our homeland from imperialists, so im sry if we Turks are a little bit skeptical about ummah.

 

[rockstar08]

Opps



We got our pride throught the victory in Gallipoli, your asking yourself why Turks have such a strong Nationalism after centurys of being part of Caliphate?
Well there is your answer, we were fighting a war with a much bigger and stronger enemy who used our fellow muslims against us, we sent every men, women and children to the front to save our homeland from imperialists, so im sry if we Turks are a little bit skeptical about ummah.

well i am not the one who will blame turks obviously .. arabs have their own faults for sure .. you just ask them will they accept a non arab caliphate .. and just take the basket of popcorn and watch the show ...
well your skeptical thoughts are because may be you didnt get much support from arabs as you guys expected ...
whats your opinion on that ?

 

[xenon54 out]

well i am not the one who will blame turks obviously .. arabs have their own faults for sure .. you just ask them will they accept a non arab caliphate .. and just take the basket of popcorn and watch the show ...
well your skeptical thoughts are because may be you didnt get much support from arabs as you guys expected ...
whats your opinion on that ?

The problem is we Turks were alone when the biggest empires attacked us (apart from support from sub continent muslims, now you know why we like you guys, its definately not only because your muslim).

I used to blame Arabs but i changed my mind, they wanted to become independent and they got it but my blood is boiling when someone is demanding from us to cut our trade or even go to war for the so called Ummah after all the things happened in history.

Looking at today, we still are alone, there are enough Turks across the world who are suffering, Turkeys priority must be to help them instead of meddling in Arabs internal affairs.

 

[rockstar08]

The problem is we Turks were alone when the biggest empires attacked us (apart from support from sub continent muslims, now you know why we like you guys, its definately not only because your muslim).

I used to blame Arabs but i changed my mind, they wanted to become independent and they got it but my blood is boiling when someone is demanding from us to cut our trade or even go to war for the so called Ummah after all the things happened in history.

Looking at today, we still are alone, there are enough Turks across the world who are suffering, Turkeys priority must be to help them instead of meddling in Arabs internal affairs.

well obviously your opinions like other turks made because of flaws in our so called Ummah .... this concept is dead many years ago ... at least turks are still optimistic about what they achieve in history ...probably thats why we are All weather friend
as compared to other arab countries turks are far more better friend of Pakistan

 

[xenon54 out]

well obviously your opinions like other turks made because of flaws in our so called Ummah .... this concept is dead many years ago ... at least turks are still optimistic about what they achieve in history ...probably thats why we are All weather friend
as compared to other arab countries turks are far more better friend of Pakistan

Ofcourse we are proud of our history, never bowed down to anyone and never will.

This was our fate drawn by imperialists

This is what we made out of it.

 

[rockstar08]

Ofcourse we are proud of our history, never bowed down to anyone and never will.

This was our fate drawn by imperialists

This is what we made out of it.

Turks indeed have interesting and Inspiring history .. and lots of things to learn from them ...

 

[-SINAN-]

Where were our "brothers in religion" when Imperialist forces decended down on Ottoman Turks
Where were our "brothers in religion" when Greeks slaughtered Cypriotic Turks
Where were our "brothers in religion" when Armenians slaughtered Azeri Turks
Where were our "brothers in religion" when Chinese slaughtered Uygur Turks
Where were our "brothers in religion" when ISIS slaughtered Iraqi Turkmens....

No ladies and gentlemen... this Ummah concept don't care about Turks at all. So don't wait anything from us.

 

[ANMDT]

The point is,there is only one unofficial news published by one press in a country who might be looking to get a chance by getting a pie in regional transportation last 2 weeks, turkey's income from transit plane routes increased 30 percent even more,with what happened in ukraine and israel , Turkish airlines also increased their flights due to some reduced flights of other companies due to regional issues.
Leave this a side, Turkish airlines will give a speech tomorrow on denial of this issue .. Guys just check up flight schedules , it will be cleared out already.
And i am suprised turkey is claimed to help israel , while there is egypt a good ally of iran ,also to israel nowadays , and some other countries who just keeps silence, come on ,wasnt that iran who was threating israel with missles,what happened now? ,why cant give some words out?
For turkey,human is human in everywhere, in myanmar, in crimea , in africa or in gaza , the 1st identity we see is " human " . But its not so for other countries, they see 1stly " muslim " , sometimes " sunni" sometimes a "race"

one more thing to say,who said US was raped in Vietnam? Check out the results,it was Vietnam who got too many looses , but yeah they honourly defended their homelands, so US pulled back . And as rape is a crime.. US raped Vietnam , with orange gas , napalm X and other chemicals they could use.

 

[RazPaK]

Pakistan do not recognize Israel or Armenia, because we are not honorless people.

 

[what]

Pakistan do not recognize Israel or Armenia, because we are not honorless people.

And the whole world is honorless because it recognizes one or the other.
We recognize both, what does that make us in your eyes?