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Turkey's Strategic Power Projection by 2023

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What about the extreme Islamist Terrorists in Libya, Mali, Nigeria , Yemen and other regions ? Do you believe they come from Turkey ?
 
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You see crypto yahudi, they the infidels make fun of your ataput and his civilisation bridge. They call you names, because you crypto jews sold your own culture and soul.

Allah is the first and the last in this world. He knows i am telling the truth.
 
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What about the extreme Islamist Terrorists in Libya, Mali, Nigeria , Yemen and other regions ? Do you believe they come from Turkey ?

No they are not that is the reason why no one relate you to them. See don't think that I am your enemy. You people are such a wonderful people and you have such a great country. You have a best country in muslim world and you are at par with European country be it in infrastructure,thinking,economy and everything. It hurt people like me to see you going down the drain. This is the reason why I or We criticise your wrong doings. Since it is your country, it is your duty to think about things which can affect you in long run.
 
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Go and blow yourself up. My country suffered a lot because of people like you. Sitting comfortably in USA and teaching us what Pakistanis can do. We are seeing this menace from last 12 years where in we have lost our beloved ones so don't teach us what Pakistanis can do or not. I as a Pakistani living in Pakistan can easily say that I have to think about my country and my family. I can give the same sermon from USA.



We are seeing it in Syria how you are bridging the gap.
Well it is obviously hard for you to comprehend the Ideology of Pakistan. Pakistanis I know and grew up with are the warrior bread. Don't know where do you live and grew-up. We live and die Islam not matter where we are. Pakistan suffered cuz Pakistani politician are corrupt and were running hypocritical policies and it backfired. Terrorism in Pakistan is not Islam, neither do I support Mullaism. Learn about Islam and Ideology of Pakistan and start seeing things in a bigger picture.

And where did you got the success ?
chechnya
kashmir
Degestan
What do you mean you, I am talking about Individuals.
 
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Well it is obviously hard for you to comprehend the Ideology of Pakistan. Pakistanis I know and grew up with are the warrior bread. Don't know where do you live and grew-up. We live and die Islam not matter where we are. Pakistan suffered cuz Pakistani politician are corrupt and were running hypocritical policies and it backfired. Terrorism in Pakistan is not Islam, neither do I support Mullaism. Learn about Islam and Ideology of Pakistan and start seeing things in a bigger picture.

Warrior race got green card and ran away to US. We are still listening sermons from them about how to defend Pakistan.
 
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Pakistanis die for Islam or a volunteer in Chechnya, Dagestan, Syria, Bosnia, Kashmir. Hell I wouldn't even doubt if Pakistanis are in Africa fighting for Muslims.
you claimed that pakistanis faught in all these places so i asked out of these regions where did you (pakistan) achieved any success ?
 
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Warrior race got green card and ran away to US. We are still listening sermons from them about how to defend Pakistan.
Warrior race got green card and ran away to US. We are still listening sermons from them about how to defend Pakistan.
Now you are talking like typical illiterate (leg puller) Pakistani:hitwall:. A.Q Khan also ran away right!!! but build Nuke for you. Hundred of thousands of Jews, that runs away to US every year!! and comes back to Israel must be traitor too.:suicide:
 
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Now you are talking like typical illiterate (leg puller) Pakistani:hitwall:. A.Q Khan also ran away right!!! but build Nuke for you. Hundred of thousands of Jews, that runs away to US every year!! and comes back to Israel must be traitor too.:suicide:

You are giving lessons what Pakistanis can do and what not. We are ready to do anything for our country and not for Ummah crap. You are sitting in America, please fight with them on behalf of your muslim brothers. Spare us Pakistanis.
 
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Wow Turkish wanabee Islamists and PKK supporters really have much in common when its about Atatürk.

Yeah, what's funny is if it wasn't for Ataturk pushing off the invading armies there would be no kurds or any muslims in todays Turkey. It would all be settled by Greeks + Armenians + Italians + French + British + Russians and others.

We might not even have had muslims at all in ME today if it wasn't for Ataturk, they the invaders would just go and do what they want in the ME.

Ataturk accomplished the impossible, all the super powers of world war 1 was fighting against us. It wouldn't be too much to call it a miracle.

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We meet genius people very rarely in centuries. It is so unlucky that, in this century that great genius person belongs to the Turkish Nation.

The centuries rarely produce a genius. Look at this bad luck of ours, that great genius of our era was granted to the Turkish nation.

D. Lloyd George, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom

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Ataturk was truly a genius I've been to his moseleum and looked at his books on display there on the library, and it's crazy.

He was studying, biology, medicine, law.. you name it... what's so special about that?
Each subject was in a different language!

Sure that can be done today, but to do that + fight wars at the same time takes hard work.

It's easier to do today with the internet and ease of getting information. It was much more difficult to learn basic language 100 years ago and on top of it read advanced medicine in a language and biology / law in another lanugae.

I truly respect Ataturks intelligence and commitment.

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Yeah, what's funny is if it wasn't for Ataturk pushing off the invading armies there would be no kurds or any muslims in todays Turkey. It would all be settled by Greeks + Armenians + Italians + French + British + Russians and others.

We might not even have had muslims at all in ME today if it wasn't for Ataturk, they the invaders would just go and do what they want in the ME.

Ataturk accomplished the impossible, all the super powers of world war 1 was fighting against us. It wouldn't be too much to call it a miracle.

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We meet genius people very rarely in centuries. It is so unlucky that, in this century that great genius person belongs to the Turkish Nation.

The centuries rarely produce a genius. Look at this bad luck of ours, that great genius of our era was granted to the Turkish nation.

D. Lloyd George, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom

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Ataturk was truly a genius I've been to his moseleum and looked at his books on display there on the library, and it's crazy.

He was studying, biology, medicine, law.. you name it... what's so special about that?
Each subject was in a different language!

Sure that can be done today, but to do that + fight wars at the same time takes hard work.

It's easier to do today with the internet and ease of getting information. It was much more difficult to learn basic language 100 years ago and on top of it read advanced medicine in a language and biology / law in another lanugae.

I truly respect Ataturks intelligence and commitment.

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Ataturk is a very difficult subject. Ataturk the phenomenon would not have happened if not for the decay ottoman turks were facing. Ottomans were heavily indebted, reforms were already heading towards secularism so Ataturk wasn't really a harbinger of new thought and finally deviation in "Islam" how can one be a caliph and yet follow a suffi order so ardently. Previous caliphs were more knowledgeable as well as spoke multiple languages.

So all in all it was time for them to go I can only imagine if they had found oil and other commodities they might have survived but it was not supposed to be, nothing is a coincidence!

That being said Ataturk did the utmost disservice to turks as well. He threw turks from the fore to the back waters. Instead of uniting muslims he used Turk nationalism. The turkisation of language and alphabet wasn't actually that nor the change in clothes it was an inferiority complex. He forgot he was representing a nation that was still to a degree in the middle of everything and a former superpower. The change of alphabet incidentally took away the history art and culture from the next generations. I doubt modern turkey can ever grasp what it has lost.

Kemalism and his secularism has lost! It is not islamists or AKP! The state protected secularism militantly, courts upheld it bureaucracy maintained it but it lost just like communism. What you have in AKP is a semblance of what Turks aspire and when they talk neo ottomanism they reminisce their glorious past. While Turks may idealise Ataturk they no longer want his ideology. Ataturk freed turks and that is what he was, a general who knew how to fight. Gallipoli is an excellent example of his inspirational leadership.

Turkey has seen what Europe is all about and they don't want it.
 
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