Turkey’s S-400 vs F-35 dilemma in 2019

[Bismarck]

Babak Taghvaee‏ @BabakTaghvaee
#BREAKING: Following to an old plan dating back to 2018, #LockheedMartin will buy #Turkey's six F-35As to sell them to #Israel in 2020. Today, #US President #Trump signed a bill for blocking delivery of F-35As to #Turkey till Nov. in case of S-400 SAM delivery by #Russia in July.

3:18 PM - 19 Feb 2019

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Yes you dunno, because you don’t follow news. Trump did sign a bill blocking F35 to Turkey.

https://www.congress.gov/116/bills/hjres31/BILLS-116hjres31enr.pdf

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.breakingisraelnews.com/122547/trump-blocks-f-35-sale/amp/

Walk away from S400.

If Turkey walks away from S-400 what will comes next? Turkish Stream? Iranian trade? ... You know the current US politics under Trump is to blackmail all of his "allies and friends". If you withdraw from the S-400 deal, you will lost much more then a defence systems. Your reputation at least. Our chancellor said it right on Munich Security Council. The USA is currently the greatest threat for all of us. This show us in very clear way that US is not a trustworthy partner and you are obliged to secure yourself from USA. And of course, S-400 is one means in the right direction. With this behavior, USA is on its own. Good think is, Trump will not stay forever. Follow our policies in that matter, sit out the situation (Status quo).

 

[WarDaddy97]

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If Turkey walks away from S-400 what will comes next? Turkish Stream? Iranian trade? ... You know the current US politics under Trump is to blackmail all of his "allies and friends". If you withdraw from the S-400 deal, you will lost much more then a defence systems. Your reputation at least. Our chancellor said it right on Munich Security Council. The USA is currently the greatest threat for all of us. This show us in very clear way that US is not a trustworthy partner and you are obliged to secure yourself from USA. And of course, S-400 is one means in the right direction. With this behavior, USA is on its own. Good think is, Trump will not stay forever. Follow our policies in that matter, sit out the situation (Status quo).

Ok.
Then don’t pull out, stick with the Russian shit, no F35s and you’ll get more US sanctions. If Russian sanctions ruined Turkish tourism and agrarian sector, imagine what we’re capable of. If we’re not trustworthy partner, kick us out of incirlik and our diplomatic staff.
Bottom line, you got yourself into this mess figure out how to get out of it.
Besides, you’re not a Turk, no need for “us” or “we”

 

[Oublious]

Ok.
Then don’t pull out, stick with the Russian shit, no F35s and you’ll get more US sanctions. If Russian sanctions ruined Turkish tourism and agrarian sector, imagine what we’re capable of. If we’re not trustworthy partner, kick us out of incirlik and our diplomatic staff.
Bottom line, you got yourself into this mess figure out how to get out of it.
Besides, you’re not a Turk, no need for “us” or “we”

You should ad closing black sea.

 

[WarDaddy97]

You should ad closing black sea.

I don’t even entertain that idea because
1.you didn’t close the straits for Russians when they were bombing your Turkmen and Arabs. You just sat there and watched while they were sailing ships loaded with bombs, missiles, hardware and other “gifts” for your cousins
2. You can’t even close down incirlik or pull out nato. What Black Sea? Lol

 

[royalharris]

I don’t even entertain that idea because
1.you didn’t close the straits for Russians when they were bombing your Turkmen and Arabs. You just sat there and watched while they were sailing ships loaded with bombs, missiles, hardware and other “gifts” for your cousins
2. You can’t even close down incirlik or pull out nato. What Black Sea? Lol

Turks are only strong by mouth and keyboard
Turks are more interesting than indians

 

[Test7]

@WarDaddy97 Stop acting like an American I guess you missed your banned days..

 

[Melkor]

Ok.
Then don’t pull out, stick with the Russian shit, no F35s and you’ll get more US sanctions. If Russian sanctions ruined Turkish tourism and agrarian sector, imagine what we’re capable of. If we’re not trustworthy partner, kick us out of incirlik and our diplomatic staff.
Bottom line, you got yourself into this mess figure out how to get out of it.
Besides, you’re not a Turk, no need for “us” or “we”

Russian shit? So why get your knickers in a twist? Is there a deed somewhere that says Turkey is run by Washington?

 

[MMM-E]

I don’t even entertain that idea because
1.you didn’t close the straits for Russians when they were bombing your Turkmen and Arabs. You just sat there and watched while they were sailing ships loaded with bombs, missiles, hardware and other “gifts” for your cousins
2. You can’t even close down incirlik or pull out nato. What Black Sea? Lol

The US has started arms embargo on Turkey after Turkish military operation in Cyprus 1974
and in 1975 Turkey kicked around 5.000 American personnel and equipment out of 21 bases including INCIRLIK

the US so cried and begged Turkey to re-open 21 bases and the US lifted 42 months embargo on Turkey in 1978

but Turkey did not re-open 21 bases
and the US backed traitors made military coup in Turkey on September 1980 and pro-American lapdogs did re-open 21 bases to use by the US on November 1980


also Turkey kicked all German personnel and equipment out of INCIRLIK in 2017

and in 2008 Turkey blocked the straits against the US Navy to support Georgia against Russia



Chinese TROLL Team is now hiding behind of American flag

 

[WarDaddy97]

The US has started arms embargo on Turkey after Turkish military operation in Cyprus 1974
and in 1975 Turkey kicked around 5.000 American personnel and equipment out of 21 bases including INCIRLIK

the US so cried and begged Turkey to re-open 21 bases and the US lifted 42 months embargo on Turkey in 1978

but Turkey did not re-open 21 bases
and the US backed traitors made military coup in Turkey on September 1980 and pro-American lapdogs did re-open 21 bases to use by the US on November 1980


also Turkey kicked all German personnel and equipment out of INCIRLIK in 2017

and in 2008 Turkey blocked the straits against the US Navy to support Georgia against Russia



Chinese TROLL Team is now hiding behind of American flag

How they hell did you block the straits of in 2008 if USS McFaul delivered aid to Georgia


"Our job was to get the supplies to Georgia as quickly as possible," said Capt. John Moore, commodore of Combined Task Force 367. "The entire crew of this ship realizes the significance of their efforts in helping to provide comfort to the people of Georgia."

McFaul delivered 82 pallets with about 155,000 pounds of supplies donated by the U.S. Agency for International Development, including hygiene items, baby food and care supplies, bottled water, and milk. Ships can carry much more cargo per mission than aircraft, which have a capacity of three to 12 pallets per sortie.

The U.S. Coast Guard Cutter Dallas (WHEC 716) and USS Mount Whitney (LCC/JCC 20) have also on-loaded humanitarian supplies destined for Georgia. Dallas left Souda Bay, Crete on Aug. 21 with more than 76,000 pounds of relief supplies and will arrive in Georgia within a week. U.S. Navy C-9, C-40 and C-130 aircraft have flown tens of thousands of hygiene kits into the country over the past week.

McFaul, an Arleigh Burke-class guided missile destroyer, is home ported in Norfolk, Va., and is on a regularly scheduled deployment in the Sixth Fleet area of responsibility.

https://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=39317

If you live in alternative reality is not my problem.

And another lie. You didn’t kick germans out, they pulled out when you didn’t allow German politicians to visit incirlik.
This childish behavior, constant hissy feet, got your country in trouble.

In 1975 you didn’t close down incirlik nor Izmir Air Station. You don’t even know your own history. Both installations were open.

Russian shit? So why get your knickers in a twist? Is there a deed somewhere that says Turkey is run by Washington?

Yes. Russian shit.
That shit can’t even challenge Israelis.
reality is this-you buy S400 you lose F35. Deed no deed that’s irrelevant

 

[Melkor]

Yes. Russian shit.
That shit can’t even challenge Israelis.
reality is this-you buy S400 you lose F35. Deed no deed that’s irrelevant

If it’s shit and isn’t a threat to Israel and by extension the US, what’s the problem?

 

[MMM-E]

How they hell did you block the straits of in 2008 if USS McFaul delivered aid to Georgia

I so hate ignorant liar TROLLs like Chinese TROLL Team

only one Ship for humanitarian aid , nothing else
After the hostilities in Georgia in August 2008, Turkey prevented the US, its NATO ally, from sending large naval ships into the Black Sea

read more
http://www.david-morrison.org.uk/us/turkey-restricts-us-access.htm

And another lie. You didn’t kick germans out, they pulled out when you didn’t allow German politicians to visit incirlik.
This childish behavior, constant hissy feet, got your country in trouble.

""you didn’t allow German politicians to visit incirlik"" that means fck off Germany

In 1975 you didn’t close down incirlik nor Izmir Air Station. You don’t even know your own history. Both installations were open.

ignorant liar TROLL is trying to teach me about my own history very funny

in 1975 We had problems only with the US , not with whole NATO
and in 1975 Turkey kicked around 5.000 American personnel and equipment out of our 21 bases including INCIRLIK
but INCIRLIK Air Base was prevented from being used exclusively by the US, but kept open to NATO


stfu now

 

[WarDaddy97]

I so hate ignorant liar TROLLs like Chinese TROLL Team

only one Ship for humanitarian aid , nothing else
After the hostilities in Georgia in August 2008, Turkey prevented the US, its NATO ally, from sending large naval ships into the Black Sea

read more
http://www.david-morrison.org.uk/us/turkey-restricts-us-access.htm





""you didn’t allow German politicians to visit incirlik"" that means fck off Germany





ignorant liar TROLL is trying to teach me about my own history very funny

in 1975 We had problems only with the US , not with whole NATO
and in 1975 Turkey kicked around 5.000 American personnel and equipment out of our 21 bases including INCIRLIK
but INCIRLIK Air Base was prevented from being used exclusively by the US, but kept open to NATO


stfu now ignorant TROLL

Stop acting like a child calling me Chinese or ignorant troll. Express yourself like an adult not like an imbecile.
So now you realized that you did not close down the Straits in 2008. There were few US ships not just 1 if you pay attention.
Just like you realized you didn’t kick anyone out in 75. incirlik and Izmir were operational. Period
Telling fuk you Germany is dumb and foolish. Again, hissy feet, no coherent policy. All you do is scream yell and holler. No wonder you got sdf on your border, russian base at your doorstep and ruined economy.

“Washington’s attempt to use positive incentives to encourage Ankara to choose Patriot air defense system over the Russian S-400 system has failed to deliver results,” he said.

“The language in the spending bill signed by Trump will likely trigger U.S. sanctions against Turkey and block the transfer of F-35s, as Washington’s policy moves from positive incentives to negative incentives,” he continued

https://www.jns.org/amid-fallout-wi...al&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Looks like USA will impose sanctions on Ankara.

If it’s shit and isn’t a threat to Israel and by extension the US, what’s the problem?

It’s not compatible and can’t be integrated with nato systems. do you understand why or I have to breakdown it down to you?

 

[Melkor]

Hw they hell did you block the straits of in 2008 if USS McFaul delivered aid to Georgia


"Our job was to get the supplies to Georgia as quickly as possible," said Capt. John Moore, commodore of Combined Task Force 367. "The entire crew of this ship realizes the significance of their efforts in helping to provide comfort to the people of Georgia."

McFaul delivered 82 pallets with about 155,000 pounds of supplies donated by the U.S. Agency for International Development, including hygiene items, baby food and care supplies, bottled water, and milk. Ships can carry much more cargo per mission than aircraft, which have a capacity of three to 12 pallets per sortie.

The U.S. Coast Guard Cutter Dallas (WHEC 716) and USS Mount Whitney (LCC/JCC 20) have also on-loaded humanitarian supplies destined for Georgia. Dallas left Souda Bay, Crete on Aug. 21 with more than 76,000 pounds of relief supplies and will arrive in Georgia within a week. U.S. Navy C-9, C-40 and C-130 aircraft have flown tens of thousands of hygiene kits into the country over the past week.

McFaul, an Arleigh Burke-class guided missile destroyer, is home ported in Norfolk, Va., and is on a regularly scheduled deployment in the Sixth Fleet area of responsibility.

https://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=39317

If you live in alternative reality is not my problem.

And another lie. You didn’t kick germans out, they pulled out when you didn’t allow German politicians to visit incirlik.
This childish behavior, constant hissy feet, got your country in trouble.

In 1975 you didn’t close down incirlik nor Izmir Air Station. You don’t even know your own history. Both installations were open.


Yes. Russian shit.
That shit can’t even challenge Israelis.
reality is this-you buy S400 you lose F35. Deed no deed that’s irrelevant

Stop acting like a child calling me Chinese or ignorant troll. Express yourself like an adult not like an imbecile.
So now you realized that you did not close down the Straits in 2008. There were few US ships not just 1 if you pay attention.
Just like you realized you didn’t kick anyone out in 75. incirlik and Izmir were operational. Period
Telling fuk you Germany is dumb and foolish. Again, hissy feet, no coherent policy. All you do is scream yell and holler. No wonder you got sdf on your border, russian base at your doorstep and ruined economy.

“Washington’s attempt to use positive incentives to encourage Ankara to choose Patriot air defense system over the Russian S-400 system has failed to deliver results,” he said.

“The language in the spending bill signed by Trump will likely trigger U.S. sanctions against Turkey and block the transfer of F-35s, as Washington’s policy moves from positive incentives to negative incentives,” he continued

https://www.jns.org/amid-fallout-wi...al&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Looks like USA will impose sanctions on Ankara.


It’s not compatible and can’t be integrated with nato systems. do you understand why or I have to breakdown it down to you?

Yes pls. Can you explain how nato member Greece has s300s?

 

[MMM-E]

Stop acting like a child calling me Chinese or ignorant troll. Express yourself like an adult not like an imbecile.
So now you realized that you did not close down the Straits in 2008. There were few US ships not just 1 if you pay attention.
Just like you realized you didn’t kick anyone out in 75. incirlik and Izmir were operational. Period
Telling fuk you Germany is dumb and foolish. Again, hissy feet, no coherent policy. All you do is scream yell and holler. No wonder you got sdf on your border, russian base at your doorstep and ruined economy.

You liar clown

After the hostilities in Georgia in August 2008, Turkey prevented the US, from sending large naval ships into the Black Sea

read liar clown read
http://www.david-morrison.org.uk/us/turkey-restricts-us-access.htm

Just like you realized you didn’t kick anyone out in 75. incirlik and Izmir were operational. Period

INCIRLIK kept open to NATO , not to the US
and in 1975 Turkey kicked around 5.000 American personnel and equipment out of our 21 bases including INCIRLIK

Turkey did not allow the US to use 21 bases including INCIRLIK between 1975 and 1980

but the US backed traitors made military coup in Turkey on September 1980 and pro-American lapdogs did allow the US to use 21 bases including INCIRLIK on November 1980

All you do is scream yell and holler. No wonder you got sdf on your border, russian base at your doorstep and ruined economy

you keep crying like little girls

Turkish Army took Jarablus,Rai,Dabıq,Azez and Al Bab
also AFRIN City has fallen , that means bye bye zionist Israeli dream

and sooner or later We will kick ugly smelly Pkk/Ypg terrorists out of Manbij , Ayn Al Arab , Telabyad as well

and Russian base is not our problem
but HEZBOLLAH and IRAN are at your doorstep , keep enjoying with it little insect Israel

 

[Test7]

@MMM-Æ Do not argue wth this troll. He knows Turkey better than you. Don't believe by the fake flag he's using.