Turkey's parliament ratifies Finland's membership in NATO

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Lol lmao really? What would have done when China was an agricultural country ruled by dozens if warlords several powers U.S,UK, Japan, Russia, France, etc eith their colonial spheres and territorial concessions in China? Lol
Anyway, I asked one question what did Sun Zu achieved for China in his times? Lol Nothing. You can takk about Genghis Khan from mongolia and his generals who conquered China and much of Asia, Middle east, all the way to even some Eastern European balkan states , ast parts of Russia etc. Yes that will be a real conqueror who had a tremendous impact globally.
As I said, Sun Tzu was merely a military scholar. Nothing more..Good tactics/strategies in his books though.

China was top military power in the world during Sun Tzu's time.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

China was top military power in the world during Sun Tzu's time.

When??? 2000 years ago???

 

[dBSPL]

This is of course related to geography and as elders says, geography is destiny. But in a nutshell, China, with all its antecedent state structures, has never been reach that global military deterrance as today, despite dominating much of Asia many times in its thousands of years of history. Outside its traditional hinterland, its military and political influence has always been limited and insignificant by distance nations and countries.

The first empire that managed to exert global military+politic influence far away from the center of gravity of the world was the United States with the world wars. And for the first time in its history, China is consolidating its global influence politically and militarily, not limited to trade and production functions. So second example will be China. As the US loses its centrality, China will be the second example to do so. In fact, by many criteria, it seems to have done so. China has come here with very clever and artistically crafted strategies and I think it is unlikely to be pushed back now. I respect Chinese history, but the modern Chinese state is the culmination of this thousand-year journey. This is a point that is not in China's past. Whether China will use this power like the US or work for a fairer world order is an open question.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

When??? 2000 years ago???

500 BC.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

500 BC.

Probably only in China and not in the whole world

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Probably only in China and not in the whole world

Back in the day China has the most powerful military.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Back in the day China has the most powerful military.

Superboy the troll.
OK, tell me what did that powerful military achieve? zero global influence. Reason nobody even knows much about it apart from China, and maybe its immediate neighbour to a lesser extent . Lol

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Superboy the troll.
OK, tell me what did that powerful military achieve? zero global influence. Reason nobody even knows much about it apart from China, and maybe its immediate neighbour to a lesser extent . Lol

China has biggest military force in the world.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

China has biggest military force in the world.

So but not advanced as US military

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

So but not advanced as US military

That is debatable.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

That is debatable.

You have some old weapon systems of 70/60

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

You have some old weapon systems of 70/60

Which ones?

 

[White and Green with M/S]

Which ones?

HQ-2 su-27 J-8 J-7 JH-7 etc etc

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

HQ-2 su-27 J-8 J-7 etc etc

China does not use any of these. Only J-20, J-16, J-11, J-10C.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

China does not use any of these. Only J-20, J-16, J-11, J-10C.

Dude J-7/J-8 and JH-7 are still operating by PLAAF go to Wikipedia and search PLAAF inventory