Turkey to sell ATAK helicopter to Saudi Arabia

[Targon]

Is it clear that it will be implemented on first(T129A) or second(T129B) batch ?

 

[AKINCI]

thanks all for your contribution

no more comparisons now please as it will derail the subject.
stick to the topic. I will be deleting all quoted or followup posts. that are not related to the topic

what is the expected unit price of T-129?

We will pay 150.000.000€ for first 9 helicopters and spare parts also 43.750.000$ for upgrade to T-129A version.

Approximately 25.000.000 $ for per helicopter with spare parts.

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[Targon]

Isn't a bit expensive ? wiki says Apache's unit cost is 20 million :/

 

[AKINCI]

Isn't a bit expensive ? wiki says Apache's unit cost is 20 million :/

It's include spare parts and most probably the real price will be cheaper than 25.000.000$ in serial production. Because we will take first 9 helicopters closer to A-129INT configration than we will upgrade them. Two times workforce subsytems etc. Also per Apache for 20.000.000$ seems BS to me.

 

[Targon]

15 to 20 million would be best.

 

[Ottoman-Turk]

its obvi cheaper than apache

 

[Deno]

Isn't a bit expensive ? wiki says Apache's unit cost is 20 million :/

There is two cost system used in military hardware, I can't actually remember their names but they are calculated like this

1- You will add the development, production, and licence costs (licence cost like our deal with Agusta for giving their all rights of T-129 design) and divide that number with the number of units you are going to produce and this will give you the cost of one unit.

2- Other is just production and propably the cost of Apache you just said has been calculated like this too. And don't forget that production cost isn't its sale cost to army and you can be sure that export price tag is way higher than this.

 

[trajanus]

Apache's unit cost was 20 million 15years before

but nowaday,japanese Apache's unit cost is over 200million
AH-X - Wikipedia

1機あたり約212億円（航空自衛隊のF-15J戦闘機2機分に相当）の超高額機となった

21.2 billion YEN(about 2 times of F-15)

 

[Ottoman-Turk]

fu.. 200 million , wow thats more than f-16

and f-15 and maybe even more than f-35 , if apache is 200 mill and atak 20 mill then we should sell these like nuts

 

[trajanus]

Because of the special relationship,USA sold weapons to Japan and Korea more expensive than other counties

 

[Bratva]

Is T-129 sanction proof helicopter? I mean No western component used in T-129? Like in Euro fighter, which requires US permission before exporting because some US technology is also used in it.

 

[Targon]

I think engine is American being produced under the licence.

 

[Yogi]

Apache's unit cost was 20 million 15years before

but nowaday,japanese Apache's unit cost is over 200million
AH-X - Wikipedia

1機あたり約212億円(航空自衛隊のF-15J戦闘機2機分に相&#24403の超高額機となった

21.2 billion YEN(about 2 times of F-15)

There is no way in hell that apache will cost $200 million per piece(thats the cost for f-22)
I m saying this bcoz india recently ordered 22 apache block III for $1.4 billion n that includes weapons n training stuff

 

[Deno]

There is no way in hell that apache will cost $200 million per piece(thats the cost for f-22)
I m saying this bcoz india recently ordered 22 apache block III for $1.4 billion n that includes weapons n training stuff

Japanese APaches have longbow while Indian army ordered only few of them with longbow and Japanese army always implant its own electronicts to weapons it buys and Japanese elevtronics cost more than you can imagine.

 

[Yogi]

Japanese APaches have longbow while Indian army ordered only few of them with longbow and Japanese army always implant its own electronicts to weapons it buys and Japanese elevtronics cost more than you can imagine.

I knw that but don't u think $200 million per piece is little far fetched...

anyways congrts turkey

I always liked T-129 heli
Its one of the best in its class but i think its a bit costly
Maybe due to increase in production its unit cost will come down...