Turkey to sell ATAK helicopter to Saudi Arabia

[explorer9]

T 129 seems to have good future, i am sure it will also be bought by South Koreans very soon.

 

[Targon]

T 129 seriously gave us a lot of experience, its opened a way to further devolepments on helicopter market.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

If Apaches were the heavy cavalry. Then the T129 is the Light Cavalry. Both serve "Somewhat" The same purpose.

I would prefer the term medium for T-129. T-129 is solely built to hunt and kill.
in my view the lighter versions like Bell OH-58 Kiowa are those who are actually adapted for some combat role with some armour and weapons upgrade although their main role maybe troop ferrying and utility and recon.

in a conflict I would imagine KSA Apaches and T-129 side by side. T-129 will offer same fire power and CAS with impressive agility and good armour whereas Apache might commit itself to head to head confrontation under heavy hostile fire taking out enemy armor and reinforced positions.

I will appreciate if someone can link the general export price of T-129?

 

[Targon]

Btw I remember that they were talking about a longbow like radar for t 129, whats happened ?

 

[SOHEIL]

yes the origin is Italian Augusta but its entirely evolved and more powerful beast made by the Turkish aviation industry. our MBTs also base their origin on Russian tanks. there is always a starting point from somewhere.
your own drones and some aeroplanes are based on captured or old American tech which is an impressive achievement.
I wont laugh at it.

A-129 or T-129 I know if I can buy one for my army I will be going to the Turks.

Agree

 

[cabatli_53]

Meteksan completed development of Mildar MMW radar succesfully. After this period, Meteksan offered this radar for Atak and If Turkish Army demands and SSM gives OK, A modified version which suits for attack helicopters in terms of weight/shape, will be applied for ATAK.

In trials, Mildar carried out impressive performance in both SAR and ISAR modes to detect moving land/air targets from km's away.


Mildar

 

[SOHEIL]

Soheil, jump in your high tech shahed bro.

HESA P4 (TIZTAK)

soooos


Mod Comment: please no more discussion that is off topic. you made your point showing a US helicopter with Iranian name. lets stop here

 

[mehmeTcc]

this is a prototype

Really, are you comparing this;

HESA P4 (TIZTAK)

soooos

with this;

 

[Irfan Baloch]

thanks all for your contribution

no more comparisons now please as it will derail the subject.
stick to the topic. I will be deleting all quoted or followup posts. that are not related to the topic

what is the expected unit price of T-129?

 

[Bismarck]

Looks strange! Range?

 

[BaybarsHan]

Looks strange! Range?

hier dicker, alle Daten


Specifications (T-129)
Line drawing for original A129 with four-blade main rotor. T-129 features a five-blade main rotor system.

Data from TAI T-129 brochure

General characteristics

Crew: 2: pilot and co-pilot/gunner
Length: 14.6 m (47 ft 11 in)
Rotor diameter: 11.90 m (39 ft 0 in)
Height: 3.4 m (11 ft 2 in)
Disc area: 111.22 m² (1,197.25 ft²)
Max. takeoff weight: 5,000 kg (11,023 lb)
Powerplant: 2 × LHTEC CTS800-4A turboshaft, 1,014 kW (1,361 shp) each
Rotor systems: 5 blades on main rotor

Performance

Cruise speed: 269 km/h (145 knots, 167 mph)
Range: 561 km (303 nmi, 341 mi)
Ferry range: 1,000 km (540 nmi, 620 mi)
Service ceiling: 6,096 m (20,000 ft)
Rate of climb: 14.0 m/s (2,750 ft/min)

Armament

Guns: 1× 20 mm (0.787 in) three-barrel gatling-type cannon (500 rounds)
Rockets: 4 pods with
38× 81 mm (3.19 in) unguided rockets or
76× 70 mm (2.75 in) unguided rockets or
12.7 mm (0.50 in) machine gun-pod
Missiles:
8× AGM-114 Hellfire, BGM-71 TOW, Hydra 70, Spike-ER, UMTAS, Roketsan Cirit anti-tank and anti-armor missiles and Sura D/Snora.
4-8× AIM-92 Stinger or Mistral or AIM-9 Sidewinder anti-aircraft missiles

 

[Worf]

T-129 ATAK - Attack helicopter for the Turkish armed forces - YouTube

İ guess this is right..

 

[LeGenD]

The likes of T-129 and Cobra are more for supporting ground troops during operations. As in close air support.

The heavier ones like Apaches and Mi-28s are more dedicated as tank hunters and hunter killer operations.

Apache is excellent for even supporting ground troops and anti-infantry roles. Salala incident is an eye-opener.

 

[Bismarck]

hier dicker, alle Daten


Specifications (T-129)
Line drawing for original A129 with four-blade main rotor. T-129 features a five-blade main rotor system.

Data from TAI T-129 brochure

General characteristics

Crew: 2: pilot and co-pilot/gunner
Length: 14.6 m (47 ft 11 in)
Rotor diameter: 11.90 m (39 ft 0 in)
Height: 3.4 m (11 ft 2 in)
Disc area: 111.22 m² (1,197.25 ft²)
Max. takeoff weight: 5,000 kg (11,023 lb)
Powerplant: 2 × LHTEC CTS800-4A turboshaft, 1,014 kW (1,361 shp) each
Rotor systems: 5 blades on main rotor

Performance

Cruise speed: 269 km/h (145 knots, 167 mph)
Range: 561 km (303 nmi, 341 mi)
Ferry range: 1,000 km (540 nmi, 620 mi)
Service ceiling: 6,096 m (20,000 ft)
Rate of climb: 14.0 m/s (2,750 ft/min)

Armament

Guns: 1× 20 mm (0.787 in) three-barrel gatling-type cannon (500 rounds)
Rockets: 4 pods with
38× 81 mm (3.19 in) unguided rockets or
76× 70 mm (2.75 in) unguided rockets or
12.7 mm (0.50 in) machine gun-pod
Missiles:
8× AGM-114 Hellfire, BGM-71 TOW, Hydra 70, Spike-ER, UMTAS, Roketsan Cirit anti-tank and anti-armor missiles and Sura D/Snora.
4-8× AIM-92 Stinger or Mistral or AIM-9 Sidewinder anti-aircraft missiles

thx. but i am only interessting of "mildar" design. the picture, who @cabatli has posted, looks little bit strange, for a radar design.

 

[eagleeye]

I think this was the first of the two prototypes .We can assume that the end product will look like the longbow Radar. And it will have of a cylindrical form.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/turkey...uccessfully-completed-time-within-budget.html