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[Alithemoor1]

Your friend here Sharif would argue otherwise since he keeps going on about Arab DNA.

Yes Arabic was the scholarly language at that time in the Muslim world, that doesn't make them Arab.

This was my question:
I have always wondered why can't we hear of any scientific or literary accomplishments under the rule of the Ottoman empire? Why aren't there Avecine, Ibn Rush, Alrazi, Ibn Khaldoun, Ibn Arabi...etc in all of the hundreds of years they have ruled over vast parts of the world?
I didn't ask about Turks. I specifically asked why hadn't science and literature flourish under the rule of the Ottomans. They can be Arabs, Turks, Persians or Europeans. A great civilization is the one that allows its citizens from various ethnicities and cultures to prosper under its rule. Why hasn't this happened in the Ottoman empire?

 

[The SC]

Your friend here Sharif would argue otherwise since he keeps going on about Arab DNA.

Yes Arabic was the scholarly language at that time in the Muslim world, that doesn't make them Arab.

You speak English, live in England and hold a British citizenship, well, we all call you British..So?

 

[-SINAN-]

I have always wondered why can't we hear of any scientific or literary accomplishments under the rule of the Ottoman empire? Why aren't there Avecine, Ibn Rush, Alrazi, Ibn Khaldoun, Ibn Arabi...etc in all of the hundreds of years they have ruled over vast parts of the world?

We never claimed to be scientists, philosophers, poets, etc..

We are pure warriors.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Anyway let's end it here by posting a photo of our beloved Georgian Erdogan and his beloved Turkish Arab wife.

We never claimed to be scientists, philosophers, poets, etc..

We are pure warriors.

No offense but do pure warriors get ensalved and turned into slave dynasties and eunuchs by Arabs 600 years after the same Arabs went berserk and changed the history of the world forever profoundly like few others before and after them did? I suggest to read about this part of history as well. Today the real Turks in Central Asia are living under the thumbs of Russians like for the past 200 years. Russified. Even adopting Russian names. Such a "warrior race". Learn from the Arabs on this front. Today those small "mighty" Central Asian Turks are used as cannon fodder by ISIS. How the "great" have fallen.

 

[xenon54 out]

A great civilization is the one that allows its citizens from various ethnicities and cultures to prosper under its rule. Why hasn't this happened in the Ottoman empire?

Well ME was doing fine under Ottoman rule, at least you werent on eachothers throat.

 

[what]

I have heard that none of them even made a single pilgrimage to Makkah and Madinah in their lifetime. So much for the Caliphs but what to expect from people who stole the Caliphate after 1000 years of Arab rule and even had the audacity to steal the ancient Arabian heritage of Prophet Muhammad (saws) and his family and Sahaba. Now they parade it like it was their heritage. A joke. Just like science under the Ottomans and Islamic conquests of non-Muslim lands was.

Combine that with the Ataturk brainwashing, not being capable of acknowledging scientific facts (DNA), falsifying history and you have a dangerous cocktail. No wonder that the Turks here are barking in a thread about an internal Arab matter and are hostile.

Sorry, I dont give a shit about religion put your people would have probably destroyed the stuff like you did with most artifacts and sites in Mecca etc.

You talk about science but the last time your region was relevant scientifically was during the dark ages in Europe. And you act like those people back than were Saudis or something. Or are you an Pan-Arabist and believe that those were your ancestors?

Anyway I dont agree with the Arab bashing in here. Lets just keep it at the Saudis. I guess everyone can agree on that.

 

[Dai Toruko]

I have heard that none of them even made a single pilgrimage to Makkah and Madinah in their lifetime. So much for the Caliphs but what to expect from people who stole the Caliphate after 1000 years of Arab rule and even had the audacity to steal the ancient Arabian heritage of Prophet Muhammad (saws) and his family and Sahaba. Now they parade it like it was their heritage. A joke. Just like science under the Ottomans and Islamic conquests of non-Muslim lands.

Combine that with the Ataturk brainwashing, not being capable of acknowledging scientific facts (DNA), falsifying history and you have a dangerous cocktail. No wonder that the Turks here are barking in a thread about an internal Arab matter and are hostile.

Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam said:
"Verily you shall conquer Constantinople. What a wonderful leader will he be, and what a wonderful army will that army be!”

You did not make it.
Deal with it.
Thanks Mehmed the Conqueror.

 

[Alithemoor1]

We never claimed to be scientists, philosophers, poets, etc..

We are pure warriors.

It is a shame then. The Mongols were warriors too and no one remembers them fondly.

 

[-SINAN-]

No offense but do pure warriors get ensalved and turned into slave dynasties and eunuchs. I suggest to read about this part of history as well. Today the real Turks in Central Asia are living under the thumbs of Russians like for the past 200 years.

You still don't know your place don't you...keep repeating the same stuff to ease your pain.

 

[GOLDENEAGLE1]

@xenon54 turco/pers demissin öyle birsey yok Selcuklular öz be öz Türktür

 

[-SINAN-]

It is a shame then. The Mongols were warrior too and no remembers them fondly.

 

[Alithemoor1]

When that sheep is operating an F 35, you will.

 

[xenon54 out]

@xenon54 turco/pers demissin öyle birsey yok Selcuklular öz be öz Türktür

Hükümet evet ancak millet olarak cogunlugu persdi.

 

[-SINAN-]

@xenon54 turco/pers demissin öyle birsey yok Selcuklular öz be öz Türktür

İki kelime de Araplara yaz istersen ? Bugüne kadar Türklere sataşmandan başka bir şey görmedim......Nasıl bir Türksen artık ?

 

[xenon54 out]

When that sheep is operating an F 35, you will.

And who will that be? Only Turkey (second biggest F-35 fleet after US) and Israel will have F-35 in ME.