Turkey targets Assad militias with bombardments and missile rain

[Foinikas]

Except they did.. otherwise why invite the Russians in exchange for giving the energy rights to them. It is only the actions of someone extremely desparate with absolute last option. The Russians didn't exactly hired for free but with high price that was bitter for Assad and them

Because the Russians wanted to secure their only base in the Mediterranean and the survival of a Syrian government that would favor them. Of course the Russians came with a high price. Syria is devastated and will be in the debt of foreigners for decades in order to rebuild.

 

[Beidou2020]

Turkey is in the worst inflation it experience. I doubt he wanted to start another campaign which will worsen the situation.

Hopefully the collapse of the Turkish Lira and the hyperinflation can remove that despotic fascist Erdogan from power. He is a menace to the region and the world.

 

[Tornado23]

Lol you moron act and bark as if you know history and yet you don’t even know that salahuddin killed many Ismailis in Syria which got rashid al din Sinan angry at him but later salahuddin offered peace with Sinan if he supply him with assassins to fight against the crusaders.

You need to stop going on wikipedia for your sources. This is the funniest shit ive ever read

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

No. There is an agreement between Russia and Turkey for Idlib and this agreement will not be broken as long as both sides fulfill their responsibilities.

The fact that Turkey is selling arms to Ukraine is a commercial relationship. On the other hand, there is a trade volume of 100 billion dollars between Russia and Turkiye, which Ukraine cannot come close to.

Once Russia loses the war with Ukraine, Turkey will form the Ottoman empire 2.0 which will expand Turkish borders to Central Asia.

 

[Foinikas]

Once Russia loses the war with Ukraine, Turkey will form the Ottoman empire 2.0 which will expand Turkish borders to Central Asia.

What makes you think Russia will lose the war? And what makes you think that the Western powers will allow Turkey to form "Ottoman Empire 2.0"?

 

[Foinikas]

Once Russia loses the war with Ukraine, Turkey will form the Ottoman empire 2.0 which will expand Turkish borders to Central Asia.

But that is the point: Russia will not lose

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

But that is the point: Russia will not lose

Russia could not defend Armenia from Turkish drones or defend Syria from Turkish forces.

Ukraine is being support by the full might of US, EU, NATO, Turkey.

Russia stands no chance.

Russia will be balkanized once it loses the war to Ukraine.

 

[Foinikas]

Russia could not defend Armenia from Turkish drones

Lol Russia let the Azeris attack the Armenians. They only protected their base in Gyumri. You think the Azeris would have attacked if they didn't have the greenlight from Russia?

Ukraine is being support by the full might of US, EU, NATO, Turkey.

Who tells you such nonsense?

 

[TNT]

Poorly armed with TOWs? The Iranian Army didn't enter Syria in full force. Only militias,volunteers and some limited forces. The Russians saved the Syrian government,but the Iranians provided huge help too. Remember that every time Iran wanted to send big forces or try to coordinate and establish bases or bring in some equipment,the Israelis would bomb them.

For how many years iran tried its best untill russia had to help them? It amazing how u ppl can so shamelessly change realities after few years. Do u even know almost 90℅ of the country was in rebel hands before russia intervened. Iranian proxies were fully defeated. Do can utter all the crap u want, it womt change reality.

 

[Foinikas]

For how many years iran tried its best untill russia had to help them?

What "many years"? The riots started in 2011,the war really started in 2012 and Russia's intervention started in 2015.

Do u even know almost 90℅ of the country was in rebel hands before russia intervened.

That doesn't look like 90%

If rebels held "almost 90% of Syria",then the government would have been doomed and left with only Damascus and the coast cities in Latakia and Tartus. The situation was very bad for the SAA,but they still controlled most of the biggest cities and around half of Aleppo.

Iranian proxies were fully defeated. Do can utter all the crap u want, it womt change reality.

If Iran had sent normal army forces,entire divisions of its army and Pasdaran,fully equipped,things could have been different. Sending militias and volunteers as well as small forces of advisors and officers,all of them with few heavy weapons and cover,that's not very effective. Of course,they could not be compared with the Russians who came with heavy armor,aircraft,air defences and fully equipped professional soldiers.

 

[SalarHaqq]

If Iran had sent normal army forces,entire divisions of its army and Pasdaran,fully equipped,things could have been different. Sending militias and volunteers as well as small forces of advisors and officers,all of them with few heavy weapons and cover,that's not very effective. Of course,they could not be compared with the Russians who came with heavy armor,aircraft,air defences and fully equipped professional soldiers.

That's the point. Iran wanted to keep it low cost, both materially and humanly, including with regards to the situation back home and the liberal fifth column trying to incite public opinion against Iran's intervention there. And Iran brilliantly managed to do so. Two thousand or so Iranian advisors were enough to prevent 150.000+ insurgents from ever reaching their goal of overthrowing the government in Damascus.

Iran at most had a couple thousand troops in Syria at any given time, plus a maximum of 20.000-25.000 non-Iranian allies (Iraqis, Afghans, Pakistanis). By all accounts, this is less than the number of foreign combatants fighting on the "rebel" side.

If Russia had refused to join, Iran would have gone full in with hundreds of thousands if not millions of volunteers (there were so many volunteers in Iran that most were barred from going there), and would have crushed the child-beheading, human-organ eating terrorists no matter what. To Iran, this was an existential threat. Especially when you know that the zionist-backed terrorists in Syria had established ties with the MKO and were getting visits from Netanyahu in person while being treated in Isra"el"i hospitals.

Last but not least, I'd just add that while Russia brought along heavy equipment, that onto itself would not have been enough to drive back the zionist-backed terrorists either. It was really the combination of Russian air power and Iranian-advised infantry which did the trick. Both of these two factors were crucial for victory.

 

[Foinikas]

That's the point. Iran wanted to keep it low cost, both materially and humanly. And brilliantly managed to do so. Iranian advisors were enough to prevent insurgents from ever reaching their goal of overthrowing the government in Damascus.

Iran at most had a couple thousand troops in Syria at any given time, plus a maximum of 20.000-25.000 non-Iranian allies (Iraqis, Afghans, Pakistanis). By all accounts, this is less than the number of foreign combatants fighting on the "rebel" side.

If Russia had refused to join, Iran would have gone full in with hundreds of thousands if not millions of volunteers (there were so many volunteers in Iran that most were barred from going there), and would have crushed the child-beheading, human-organ eating terrorists no matter what.

And that's not the only reason! Iran didn't want to provoke the U.S. and other countries. They knew that sending big forces in Syria would have given Iran's enemies an excuse to attack. Israel alone bombed Iranian bases and equipment many times.

But like you said,the last thing Iran would have wanted was a Salafi emirate or a many small sunni and pro-American States replacing Syria. Let's not forget that at the same time,Iran was trying to help Iraq against the barbarians as well.

 

[Battlion25]

That's the point. Iran wanted to keep it low cost, both materially and humanly, including with regards to the situation back home and the liberal fifth column trying to incite public opinion against Iran's intervention there. And Iran brilliantly managed to do so. Two thousand or so Iranian advisors were enough to prevent 150.000+ insurgents from ever reaching their goal of overthrowing the government in Damascus.

Iran at most had a couple thousand troops in Syria at any given time, plus a maximum of 20.000-25.000 non-Iranian allies (Iraqis, Afghans, Pakistanis). By all accounts, this is less than the number of foreign combatants fighting on the "rebel" side.

If Russia had refused to join, Iran would have gone full in with hundreds of thousands if not millions of volunteers (there were so many volunteers in Iran that most were barred from going there), and would have crushed the child-beheading, human-organ eating terrorists no matter what. To Iran, this was an existential threat. Especially when you know that the zionist-backed terrorists in Syria had established ties with the MKO.

Last but not least, I'd just add that while Russia brought along heavy equipment, that onto itself would not have been enough to drive back the zionist-backed terrorists either. It was really the combination of Russian air power and Iranian-advised infantry which did the trick. Both of these two factors were crucial for victory.

This the top General... From the horses own mouth...

IRGC Commander Claims 200,000 Iran-backed Troops In Syria


The deputy commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC), Brigadier-General Hossein Salami, has said that Iran’s primary objective for providing logistical, operational, technical, and tactical assistance to the pro-government forces in Syria, is to help that country rebuild its military and strengthen its territorial defence forces as well as enabling Iran to safeguard its interests in the region.

According to Colonel Mohammad Eskandari, IRGC is prepared to deploy 42 brigades,138 battalions, almost 130,000 troops to the theatre of war in Syria. The commander of the IRGC, Major-General Mohammad Ali Ja’fari, estimates that 200,000 Iranian and non-Iranian troops are currently fighting under the auspices of IRGC forces in Syria.

IRGC Commander Claims 200,000 Iran-backed Troops In Syria - KAYHAN LIFE

December 30, 2016 By Ahmad Rafat The deputy commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC), Brigadier-General Hossein Salami, has said that Iran’s primary objective for providing logistical, operational, technical, and tactical assistance to the pro-government forces in Syria, is to...

kayhanlife.com

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You got your shxt pushed in...

The funny thing is these rebels were hell'va stubborn I don't blame them.. Just getting these out of Ghouta was hell'va nightmarish and Russia had to negotiate them out.. It even took Russia 5 years to push them back with all that logistical advantages hence smoking whatever Iran would have thrown in was expected like a black hole.. Don't take it as knock on you

 

[SalarHaqq]

And that's not the only reason! Iran didn't want to provoke the U.S. and other countries. They knew that sending big forces in Syria would have given Iran's enemies an excuse to attack. Israel alone bombed Iranian bases and equipment many times.

But like you said,the last thing Iran would have wanted was a Salafi emirate or a many small sunni and pro-American States replacing Syria. Let's not forget that at the same time,Iran was trying to help Iraq against the barbarians as well.

Yes, Iran would avoid escalation as long as other solutions, read Russian participation, were in reach. But if pushed against the wall, I'm sure Iran would have increased its involvement. Losing Syria would have meant losing Lebanese Hezbollah next and thus being deprived of one if its main deterrence assets against potential zio-American aggression.

 

[SalarHaqq]

This the top General... From the horses own mouth...

IRGC Commander Claims 200,000 Iran-backed Troops In Syria


The deputy commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC), Brigadier-General Hossein Salami, has said that Iran’s primary objective for providing logistical, operational, technical, and tactical assistance to the pro-government forces in Syria, is to help that country rebuild its military and strengthen its territorial defence forces as well as enabling Iran to safeguard its interests in the region.

According to Colonel Mohammad Eskandari, IRGC is prepared to deploy 42 brigades,138 battalions, almost 130,000 troops to the theatre of war in Syria. The commander of the IRGC, Major-General Mohammad Ali Ja’fari, estimates that 200,000 Iranian and non-Iranian troops are currently fighting under the auspices of IRGC forces in Syria.

IRGC Commander Claims 200,000 Iran-backed Troops In Syria - KAYHAN LIFE

December 30, 2016 By Ahmad Rafat The deputy commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC), Brigadier-General Hossein Salami, has said that Iran’s primary objective for providing logistical, operational, technical, and tactical assistance to the pro-government forces in Syria, is to...

kayhanlife.com

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I already addressed and debunked this, when you posted it in the Iranian Chill Thread using your other account (Titanium110) I believe - which by the way is against forum rules, but hey, you can come in the hundreds, I will take you on.

First of all, I informed you that Keyhan London is a monarchist, US-, UK-, zionist-backed newspaper pertaining to the expatriate Iranian opposition, which will not hesitate to twist statements of Iranian officials to feed its propaganda. Show me the original statement of the Iranian official and then we'll talk.

Secondly, I also put to you that 200.000 troops "under the auspices of the IRGC" includes the local Syrian NDF (National Defence Forces), a popular paramilitary organization set up with the help of Iran following the example of the Iranian Basij, as well as several divisions of the SAA known for being closely advised by Iran. Add the 25.000 actual Iranian and allied forces, and you reach a figure close to 200.000.

You got your shxt pushed in...

You got that Keyhan London drivel exposed, and then again. That source is an epic failure. Much like the "rebels" in Syria, some 120.000 of whom who are now dead. I'll be right here when you quote the shahi propaganda rag again.

The funny thing is these rebels were hell'va stubborn I don't blame them.. Just getting these out of Ghouta was hell'va nightmarish and Russia had to negotiate them out.. It even took Russia 5 years to push them back with all that logistical advantages hence smoking these were expected.. Don't take it as knock on you

They were not that impressive. As I said, 2000 Iranian advisers stationed more than a thousand kilometers from home were enough to crush them hard. Just imagine when Amir ol-Momenin seyyed Khamenei issues a fatwa and 10 million Mojaheds are mobilized. Earth will tremble.