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Russia is stuck at home defending the war from Ukraine. Turkey sees an opportunity to take control of Syria.
No. There is an agreement between Russia and Turkey for Idlib and this agreement will not be broken as long as both sides fulfill their responsibilities.

The fact that Turkey is selling arms to Ukraine is a commercial relationship. On the other hand, there is a trade volume of 100 billion dollars between Russia and Turkiye, which Ukraine cannot come close to.
 
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Well 10 years of a devastating war usually does that. The Syrian Pound was already in bad shape years and years ago. Most of the country is still destroyed and without infustructure.

What devastating war? Dont be ridiculus. The money spent on cross-border operations cannot even come close to the money spent on fighting the KCK/PKK. Or the current situation has nothing to do with the conditions under which we had to face over western embargo in 1974. Elhamdulillah, all the PKK's internal capacity has been destroyed. In recent years, Turkey has found some peace with the fact that terrorist acts inside are a thing of the past.

You just paint a picture on the TRY-USD parity, and anyone who knows a little about economics will understand that this is a very shallow way of thinking. But i understand it, you are writing according to your own agenda, so it is natural for you to manipulate some things. Otherwise, you can't be too stupid to see the transformation in the Turkish economy.
 
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What devastating war? Dont be ridiculus. The money spent on cross-border operations cannot even come close to the money spent on fighting the KCK/PKK. Or the current situation has nothing to do with the conditions under which we had to face over western embargo in 1974.

You just paint a picture on the TRY-USD parity, and anyone who knows a little about economics will understand that this is a very shallow way of thinking. But i understand it, you are writing according to your own agenda, so it is natural for you to manipulate some things. Otherwise, you can't be too stupid to see the transformation in the Turkish economy.
No,I'm talking about Syria. Not Turkey! Syria has been devastated by the war. Its economy,infastracture,manpower,resources,diplomacy. Everything!
 
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Its funny to read the delusions of iranians here 😂. They talk about economic collapse of countries that are richer than them and dance, forgetting the fact that they are sanction stricken dirt poor and survives on smuggling and begging. Its also funny they blame others of taking support while we all know syria was a goner without russian intervention. These delusional idiots couldnt face poorly armed militias and had to beg russia and now look at them jumping lolz. No wonder they are indian allies, both retarded and delusional.
 
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These delusional idiots couldnt face poorly armed militias and had to beg russia and now look at them jumping lolz. No wonder they are indian allies, both retarded and delusional.
Poorly armed with TOWs? The Iranian Army didn't enter Syria in full force. Only militias,volunteers and some limited forces. The Russians saved the Syrian government,but the Iranians provided huge help too. Remember that every time Iran wanted to send big forces or try to coordinate and establish bases or bring in some equipment,the Israelis would bomb them.
 
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Poorly armed with TOWs? The Iranian Army didn't enter Syria in full force. Only militias,volunteers and some limited forces. The Russians saved the Syrian government,but the Iranians provided huge help too. Remember that every time Iran wanted to send big forces or try to coordinate and establish bases or bring in some equipment,the Israelis would bomb them.

They had huge forces there but just got defeated as detailed in a report and they went to Moscow to ask for help save him against the rebels in 2015..
 
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They had huge forces there but just got defeated as detailed in a report and they went to Moscow ask for help save him against the rebels in 2015..
Russia carried out its moves in the proper order and very successfully. By shooting down the Russian plane, also Turkey provided the environment it wanted for Russia too albeit unintentionally. Russia lost a pilot but became the patron of a country by bringing the air force and long-range air defense systems. Russia strategically settled in Syria. You may not accept it, but there is a defacto situation. Today, Putin has an incomparably greater say in the future of Syria than Assad.
 
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Putin has an incomparably greater say in the future of Syria than Assad.

True his the defacto leader in one of the 3 Syrian states since there are technically 3 defacto states...
 
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They had huge forces there but just got defeated as detailed in a report and they went to Moscow to ask for help save him against the rebels in 2015..
The Persians? They had sent mostly militias and volunteers with advisors and some commanders. I don't know how different things would have been if they had sent fully equipped Army and Pasdaran divisions. But still,the Russians turned the tide and helped Syria not only militarily but also diplomatically. Let's face it,if it was the Iranian army there and no Russians,everybody would have fallen on Syria. They would have seen it as a chance to destroy the Iranian forces without invading Iran.
 
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The Persians? They had sent mostly militias and volunteers with advisors and some commanders. I don't know how different things would have been if they had sent fully equipped Army and Pasdaran divisions. But still,the Russians turned the tide and helped Syria not only militarily but also diplomatically. Let's face it,if it was the Iranian army there and no Russians,everybody would have fallen on Syria. They would have seen it as a chance to destroy the Iranian forces without invading Iran.

Except they did.. otherwise why invite the Russians in exchange for giving the energy rights to them. It is only the actions of someone extremely desparate with absolute last option. The Russians didn't exactly hired for free but with high price that was bitter for Assad and them
 
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I mean I know you worship the servant of the crusaders that is Erdogan but come on, if we talk about babysitting, back when Turkey shot down a Russian aircraft what do you think would have happened to Turkey if it wasn't a NATO member.. Russia would have nuked Turkey immediately if it wasn't for the protection it has from NATO.

That is just exaggeration countries don't start Nuke wars over a plane shout down in miscommunication.. But there is legal compensation for that sort of things that is how such affairs are settled. they would only use nuke if it was absolute last resort meaning threatened inside their home-land as it would have huge impact for the whole world NATO or without NATO..
 
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That is just exaggeration countries don't start Nuke wars over a plane shout down in miscommunication.. But there is legal compensation for that sort of things that is how such affairs are settled. they would only use nuke if it was absolute last resort meaning threatened inside their home-land as it would have huge impact for the whole world NATO or without NATO..
It wasn't a "miscommunication" Erdogan acted at the orders of the US thinking that Russia would get scared away from Syria due to fear from going to war with the US, If NATO didn't exist, the only "compensation" Russia would have accepted in exchange for not nuking Turkey would be Erdogan or his minister of defence executed.
 
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His ancestors were Sunni but Safavid came

The more subtle way to put it is that they just flipped something similar to like the US election a state going from Red to blue or vice versa. As the Safavid themselves were Sunni I mean the founder.. But at the end it was their free choice we respect that.
It wasn't a "miscommunication" Erdogan acted at the orders of the US thinking that Russia would get scared away from Syria due to fear from going to war with the US, If NATO didn't exist, the only "compensation" Russia would have accepted in exchange for not nuking Turkey would be Erdogan or his minister of defence executed.

This is just retardation it was clearly a miscommunication Russia knew that. The soldier on the ground acted hastly but it was clearly a miscommunication. Nuke:rofl:? As I said this is not a childs play or something one does for minor things except in one condition which is last resort. learn about geopolitics and how the world functions.. This whole thing is juvenile
 
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They praise the biggest terrorist who killed more than one million of his people and calling militants who fights him terrorists instead, HYPOCRISY

Huh? Care to share a credible source for this figure? Even the pro-opposition SOHR puts the total number of casualties in the Syrian war at some 600.000, of which around 50% are military casualties.

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Historically it was the Ismaeli/shias who collaborated with crusaders so your metaphor is the height of irony...

Historically? Tell us what's going on now, not "historically". Although, some 100 years of alliance between the zionist-controlled west and Arab regimes can qualify as a historically rooted circumstance, difference being that it's going on to this very day.

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Its funny to read the delusions of iranians here 😂. They talk about economic collapse of countries that are richer than them and dance, forgetting the fact that they are sanction stricken dirt poor and survives on smuggling and begging. Its also funny they blame others of taking support while we all know syria was a goner without russian intervention. These delusional idiots couldnt face poorly armed militias and had to beg russia and now look at them jumping lolz. No wonder they are indian allies, both retarded and delusional.

Except that Iran has surpassed both Turkey and Saudi in terms of GDP... Despite being under the most stringent, US-imposed sanctions regime worldwide. So, I'd rather go with "sanction stricken dirt poor and surviving on smuggling" (Iran's not "begging" anyone), than polishing the boots of NATO / zionist oppressors and islamophobes in exchange for some bread crumbs.

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Except they did.. otherwise why invite the Russians in exchange for giving the energy rights to them. It is only the actions of someone extremely desparate with absolute last option. The Russians didn't exactly hired for free but with high price that was bitter for Assad and them

No, except they didn't. Iran never fielded more than a few thousand of her own troops in Syria (like, 3000 or so). Russia was encouraged to join in precisely because Iran did not want to commit more troops and resources, preferring to keep it super cost-effective. Which is exactly what happened. So it's the opposite of what you claim.

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His ancestors were Sunni but Safavid came and converted them forcibly to Shia Islam.

He isn't Iranian but Arab Iraqi. Islamic Iran has many, many friends beyond her borders. And they weren't bought with US-sponsored petrodollars, you know.
 
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