Turkey shoots down "Russian Jet" near border

[Indika]

Now Russia will deploy their SAM missiles and will eagerly wait for the next F-16 to take off.

This was silly. There was entirely no reason to escalate the issue this far. Fringing into airspace happens sometimes. That does not mean Russia was trying to threaten or attack Turkey. Turkey could have made it a diplomatic issue, if they have any problem with killing ISIS terrorists. They could have escorted the Russian jet out of their airspace, fired warning shots from their cannons, that's how it is done normally.
Why did they have to shoot it down ? That is extreme hostile action, something that is done when at least one party is convinced it is an act of deliberate aggression.

Russians have to simply deploy s-300 or s-400 and keep quiet. Fighting around turkeys airspace is only going to affect their air traffic. Now russia will start whole sale bombing of turkish supply lines to the rebels. Other than nato making a lot of noise nothing will happen.

Turkey should be reminded of crimea where nato was a mute spectator.

 

[SiCiSi]

You are the cat, you have spent so much money on Syria and have combat troops there. Turkey has no combat troops there and has not spent much money except on helping refugees. The military option is normally the last option and your country is using it. Turkey still has a lot of cards to play.

lol

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

@madmusti

Kardeş sende okuma özrü var herhalde anlamıyorsun. Senin tanımladığın angajman kuralı zaten başlı başına adamı tehdit etmek ve işini zorlaştırmak için. Amerika Irak'ı işgal ettiğinde senin ülkenin hava sahasını kaç kere izin istemeden kullandı? Senin ülkene füze düştü oğlum füze, hatırlıyorsun değil mi? Senin ülkenin askerinin kafasına çuval geçirildi Süleymaniye'de. Ne yaptın o zaman Amerika'ya karşı? Onlar sana sen kimsin ulan demediler mi? Niye onlara karşı bir şey yapılmadı?

Arkadaş sen geç bunları, ben körü körüne bir şey savunmam. Benim sadakatim Laik Türk cumhuriyetinedir. Öncesine veya sonrasına değil. Gerçek vatanseverinde sadakati buna olur. Ordu bunun bir uzantısıdır. Ordu dediğin halifenin emriyle abuk subuk hareketler yapıyorsa kimse onu savunmaz.

İttihatçılar zamanında padişaha karşı dağa çıkmadılar mı? Senin zihniyette olsalardı aman yabancıya malzeme vermeyelim diye Abdülhamit'in bir tarafını yalamaya devam ederlerdi. Atatürk hakkında padişah ölüm fermanı imzalamadı mı? Senin zihniyetinde olsa Atatürk padişahın sözünden çıkmaz İngilizlerin komutası altına girerdi.

Gençler geçin bunları. Kötü konuşup yok yere kalp kırmak istemiyorum. Sadakat vatanseverlik değildir. Ülken üzerinde oynanan gerçek oyunları görüp buna göre tavır alabilmek vatanseverliktir. Yeri gelir milletin için devletine karşı gelirsin. Zamanında bunu yapan çok Türk büyüğü ve aydını vardır. Bir tanesi Mustafa Kemaldir. Bugünde gün bu saçmalıkların karşısında olma günüdür yanında olmak değil. Bütün dünya sana IŞİD ile birlikte hareket ediyorsun dediğinde sen etmiyorum diyorsun. Bunun bir anlamı yok. Kimse bunu yemiyor. Dünya asil Türk milletine terörist diyor. Eğer gerçekten bu manyaklardan ayrıysanız bunları savunmaya çalışmayın. Aranıza mesafe koyun, Dünya anlasın en azından aklı başında Türklerinde olduğunu.

Aptal aptal konusma ve kimseye hakaret etme. CAY BAHCESINDE Mete Yarar'in sayfalarca ekledigim analizini oku ve RUS ile Iran Propagandasi yapma . Write also in ENGLSH

 

[Random111]

For sure, the killed are Russian CSAR commados who fighted FSA and Türkmens.

Russian Pilots will be delivered to TSK in some hours. Breaking news on NTV

@Yenikuyu

Oh, this would be very nice. It would also be a bit of PR for Russia and it would lead them to backtrack a bit. But don't know man, this vid is pretty clear and looks like parachute equipment.

Pics like this are circulating on twitter;

https://twitter.com/x/status/669140630682083328

 

[Serpentine]

There is no miscalculation in defending your own borders. If a criminal breaks the lock on your door and comes into your house after reading a sign that says not to come in are you not going to defend your home against that person?

I'd like to know your stance also on regular violations of Iran's airspace by TuAF in 90s, with excuse of fighting PKK in northern Iraq. If we had downed a Turkish jet, based on your current post, you would definitely support that, right?

 

[The-king]

An uncivilized Turk who thinks his Turkey army can defeat Russian fleet in one day shouldnt tell me that

Don't forget we are with them and THE NATO + USA l

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

Oh, this would be very nice. It would also be a bit of PR for Russia and it would lead them to backtrack a bit. But don't know man.

Pics like this are circulating on twitter;

https://twitter.com/x/status/669140630682083328

Information polluting and propaganda nothing else. As I wrote Russian Commados were engaged from FSA ,

Pilots are alive and transfered to TURKEY

 

[Hakan]

I'd like to know your stance also on regular violations of Iran's airspace by TuAF in 90s, with excuse of fighting PKK in northern Iraq. If we had downed a Turkish jet, based on your current post, you would definitely support that, right?

If they have no permission then it is fair. Would you support Iran downing the jets if you gave warnings and it happened multiple times? I think you would.

 

[The-king]

I'm fully aware of the chain of events., just went through the details.

When the bogey does not respond, then the norm is you scramble your own jets and chase him off. Then you fire warning shots. Shooting it down is well within their rights, no question about it if the hostile aircraft is violating their airspace.

But then, one has to think about the repercussions. This could have been handled diplomatically much easily.

How many times you repeat this as per NATO standards 3 times enough then you are free to defend your air space.

 

[Saurabh jindals]

Is it true Turkey is purchasing ISIS crude oil "black oil" under the nose of US ? and US is for so long searching "WHO IS THE FINANCER OF ISIS" In that case it will be labeled as State financer of Terrorist !!

 

[Random111]

Pretty sure everyone with a working brain knows this. Turkey is mad we are taking down their IS allies.

ISIS is XXX km down the road, not present in Latakia.

Information polluting and propaganda nothing else. As I wrote Russian Commados were engaged from FSA ,

Pilots are alive and transfered to TURKEY

Parachute equipment though? And they're CSAR guys from heli, would they have parachute? Hope you're right bro.

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

 

[The-king]

ISIS is 200 km down the road,


Parachute equipment though?

May be the old Helo shot down pics from that helo's pilots.

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

ISIS is XXX km down the road, not present in Latakia.



Parachute equipment though? And they're CSAR guys from heli, would they have parachute? Hope you're right bro.

Russian paratroopers engaged some days ago

 

[Hakan]

First they said Turkey didn't shoot down the Russian drone last month and that it just crashed. They sad Turkey is too scared of Russia. What now. Turkey shot down a Russian plane.