Turkey seeks Pakistan’s help against PKK, IS

[SalahuddinAyubi]

As a muslim Kurd, I am saddened by the fact that many Pakistanis here are supporting the fact that Pakistan should support Turkey in their offensive against PKK and Kurds. Pakistan, as the great nation it is and which has accomplished so much in so little time as an independent country, should instead position itself as an intermediary to solve this issue in a peaceful way.

 

[Zibago]

As a muslim Kurd, I am saddened by the fact that many Pakistanis here are supporting the fact that Pakistan should support Turkey in their offensive against PKK and Kurds. Pakistan, as the great nation it is and which has accomplished so much in so little time as an independent country, should instead position itself as an intermediary to solve this issue in a peaceful way.

I am one of the folks who are of the view that the Kurdish issue is their internal issue and it could create problems for us in the future if we interfere

 

[karakoram]

turkey is our brother from another mother we should assist them in these tuff time.

 

[Uzair Shafiq [Босс]]

Form a joint force
You know something like a united muslim army send it to iraq syria Palestine
hell i would join it my self but the thing is we won't do that
We are all greedy bastards =.=
But yes we must and should help turkey
It always stood by our side
Fed us ,Gave us jets,donated to our people,collaborated in so many fields and well we call it our brother for a reason,time to prove that .

 

[Neptune]

As a muslim Kurd, I am saddened by the fact that many Pakistanis here are supporting the fact that Pakistan should support Turkey in their offensive against PKK and Kurds. Pakistan, as the great nation it is and which has accomplished so much in so little time as an independent country, should instead position itself as an intermediary to solve this issue in a peaceful way.

So you are the "TC is fascist" guy in the forum..

Joke aside mate, what peaceful way you are talking about? There has been a 40 year bloody insurgency at Turkey's southeastern for unlawful demands with unlawful approaches by outlawed terrorists.

Due to forum rules, I find only this fit enough for posting,

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The victims above are Turkish-Kurds. They were slaughtered by PKK at 1989, they killed your own brethen.

They have been killing the teachers, doctors, district governors and rangers that the State had provided to Kurdish population in Turkey. Now they thanks to AKP, have achieved their very prime goal of existence; sitting on table with the government. Now one step ahead for another objective.


If you are looking for peace, look at the citizens of countries Kurds are eagerly supporting and showing example of a free democracy, namely the US and UK whom are the countries that have been taking out any threat against their national security and society so that their citizens regardless of race and ideology can live freely.

Nobody can expect mercy when your airman is shot dead in back when he goes out from the base to market to get some fruit to his pregnant wife..or when two of your police officers are killed with silenced weapons when they are off duty and sleeping at home.

 

[TMA]

We first made blunder of not helping GCC countries who have always supported us in every crisis now Turkey also our main supporter in every crisis along with GCC asks for help. We have to help both GCC and Turkey in their fight or can say good buy to our allies for ever. Now it's time to take some seriously hard decisions. That is why I say we need to increase our Forces massively and deploy some of them in middle east forever. I mean forever.
@MastanKhan

What blunder? By not embroiling Pakistan in a stupid war in Yemen? Do you want Sunni-Shia civil war?

Turkey has been fighting an insurgency for the last thirty years!!! Do they need our help??? Sounds a bit strange to me unless there is another dimension to this.

Turks are fiercely nationalists and take extreme pride in doing things the "Turkish" way. Asking for material help from Pakistan is a non starter. They have access to more modern technology and equipment then we do.

We have experience in fighting an insurgency in mountainous terrain. IMO this expertise dove tails with their operations against PKK in south east Turkey against PKK in almost the same sort of terrain.

Most probably, PA will be in an advisory capacity or our advisers will be embedded with their units in operations aginst PKK maybe out of Hakkari (Commando/Mountain Warfare Brigade HQ) -- 7th Corps Area.

Yes, somethinhg fishy no doubt.

 

[TankMan]

Not helping the GCC in Yemen was not a blunder. It was a very good decision. We can not let ourselves become tools for the Arabs, especially not when we risk enmity with Iran and a sectarian conflict.

Turkey, on the other hand, is a different situation: there is no risk of a sectarian conflict spilling over to Pakistan if we were to help Turkey. Conversely, If we don't help Turkey, ISIS will attempt to expand towards Pakistan.

I'm not in favour of getting directly involved against the Kurds, but we should be helping Turkey with counter-insurgency in general.

 

[TMA]

Not helping the GCC in Yemen was not a blunder. It was a very good decision. We can not let ourselves become tools for the Arabs, especially not when we risk enmity with Iran and a sectarian conflict.

Turkey, on the other hand, is a different situation: there is no risk of a sectarian conflict spilling over to Pakistan if we were to help Turkey. Conversely, If we don't help Turkey, ISIS will attempt to expand towards Pakistan.

I'm not in favour of getting directly involved against the Kurds, but we should be helping Turkey with counter-insurgency in general.

Pakistan should be very careful not to be used in oppressing others. Pakistan should advise Turkey to leave NATO but Pakistan can only do that after she leaves the status of major non NATO ally.

 

[RAMPAGE]

As a muslim Kurd, I am saddened by the fact that many Pakistanis here are supporting the fact that Pakistan should support Turkey in their offensive against PKK and Kurds. Pakistan, as the great nation it is and which has accomplished so much in so little time as an independent country, should instead position itself as an intermediary to solve this issue in a peaceful way.

As a Muslim, you shouldn't demand separation from a majority Muslim state. You can however, demand equal rights if they're not being provided.

 

[Neptune]

Pakistan should be very careful not to be used in oppressing others. Pakistan should advise Turkey to leave NATO but Pakistan can only do that after she leaves the status of major non NATO ally.

It's not the way how global politics shape.

Neither Turkey nor Pakistan will leave these statuses.

 

[TMA]

It's not the way how global politics shape.

Neither Turkey nor Pakistan will leave these statuses.

However the people should at least voice their concerns. If Turkey stays in NATO - civil war is coming!

 

[MadDog]

It's not the way how global politics shape.

Neither Turkey nor Pakistan will leave these statuses.

Agreed, why would Turkey leave NATO. Man, there are too many drawing room intellectuals these days in Pakistan, they atleast need to analyse the geopolitical situation before commenting. Why on earth Pak would advice Turkey to lave NATO, LMAO

However the people should at least voice their concerns. If Turkey stays in NATO - civil war is coming!

Buddy your analysis of geopolitical developments is pretty unrealistic, please read about the regional geopolitics then comment. Why on earth would Pak ask Turkey to leave NATO, and why would we change our own status.

 

[Neptune]

If Turkey stays in NATO - civil war is coming!

Would you have the honor to explain how is that gonna happen?

 

[MadDog]

Would you have the honor to explain how is that gonna happen?

lol, am waiting for his answer , would be pretty hilarious, I can guarantee that, How on earth is NATO membership linked to civil war.

As a muslim Kurd, I am saddened by the fact that many Pakistanis here are supporting the fact that Pakistan should support Turkey in their offensive against PKK and Kurds. Pakistan, as the great nation it is and which has accomplished so much in so little time as an independent country, should instead position itself as an intermediary to solve this issue in a peaceful way.

If you like Pakistan so much then why do Kurdish separatist groups hold rallies with exiled Baloch terrorist leaders (in Europe and North America) calling for independence of Kurdistan and Balochistan, care to explain, basically with the aim to damage Turkey and Pakistan. Here are your fellow kurdish separatists supporting Baloch terror groups

 

[TMA]

Agreed, why would Turkey leave NATO. Man, there are too many drawing room intellectuals these days in Pakistan, they atleast need to analyse the geopolitical situation before commenting. Why on earth Pak would advice Turkey to lave NATO, LMAO



Buddy your analysis of geopolitical developments is pretty unrealistic, please read about the regional geopolitics then comment. Why on earth would Pak ask Turkey to leave NATO, and why would we change our own status.

You have to understand Islamic eschatology. It would take alot of writing and time on my part to explain this. Visit SheikhImranHosein - YouTube
and Islamic Scholar Imran N Hosein

In short Muslims are forbidden to ally themselves with those Christians and Jews who are allies of themselves. As this alliance is tyrannical in nature. And NATO is an oppressor doing the dirty work of Israel.
Constantinople is going to be conquered after Al-Malhama and that can only happen with the help of (some) Turkish Muslims and therefore logically entails civil war.