Turkey says civilians wounded in Syrian missile raids

[Dariush the Great]

Syria itself is a joke and can not withstand a brutal Turkish invasion. They should calm things down before the situation spirals out of control and Iran gets involved against Turkey and that is when the real mess starts. Only Israel and Saudi will benefit from it.

 

[magra]

you dont have shame? you enjoy lying? ISIS wasnt there in syria from day 1 of the syrian civil war. they came afterwards. remember when abu bakr al baghdadi sent a ISIS commander (at the time it was ISI) into Syria, Jolani. this guy formed Nusra, then around 2 years later Baghdadi tried to merge ISI and Nusra, but Jolani refused, then ISI and Nusra became enemies.

fucking hell you bozo. here read the timeline since you werent paying attention as the civil war was unfolding.

Timeline: the Rise, Spread, and Fall of the Islamic State

At its height, the Islamic State - also known as ISIS, ISIL, or Daesh - held about a third of Syria and 40 percent of Iraq. By December 2017 it had lost 95 percent of its territory, including its two biggest properties, Mosul, Iraq's second largest city, and the northern Syrian city of Raqqa...

www.wilsoncenter.org

you lying sack of sh*t. Russia and Iran were there supporting Assad from day 1. DAY 1. their own statements say so.

First of all. You have no shame to start abusing like this. If you cannot have civilized conversation, go join a jihadi organization and blow yourself up.
ISIS was not there from Day 1 but the power vaccum which got created due to outside intervention in Syrian civil dispute led to the creation and expansion of ISIS.
Russia did not actively involve itself in the war in the initial years. Only later when ISIS threatened to completely consume Syria did Russia entered with its air strikes.

no. clearly the hindus werent going to pick Pakistan over India. Pakistan wanted to be part of the plebiscite, and so did the UN, but India refused. but the fact of the matter is, Junagarh was illegally invaded by india because the instrument of accession to Pakistan was already done. if you say that what india did was legal, despite the instrument of accession, then Kashmir never belonged to india even after the instrument of accession to india was signed.

You keep on repeating falsehoods. Junagarh is a closed matter as you never staked claim at UN. It is not a disputed territory and it is legally India's. Not in Pakistan govt of today questions the legality of Junagarh.

As explained to you numerous times and still the fact does not go into your stone head, J&K was legally signed over to India. You had one chance of plebiscite in J&K in 1948 for which you had to vacate all of your army and band of irregulars out (as per UN resolution). You balked at that and the story ends. You cant get Kashmir now how much ever you cry. International community sees through your false arguments that you only support morally. Everyone knows about your history of terrorist support network.

You're a bit of a snake aren't you?

You come across initially as a balanced and objectively minded individual, right up until the right sequence of buttons is pushed and the default basic bhakt comes bobbling out.

I speak whatever is true. Obviously you being on the opposite end would feel differently and I dont mind that. But I would appreciate if the conversation is kept civil.
I dont bark abuses when you guys put forward your points which I dont agree with.

 

[zartosht]

turkey is long overdue for a big slap......

they have voluntarily put their troops into a vulnerable state in syria. where they have 0 legal status and only remain untill turkey is strong enough to bully syria...

this equation can only go on as long as Iran and Russia allow it. As soon as Russia and Iran make the serious step of kicking the turks out. it will be turkey shooting season on those occupiers of syrian land....

Turkish occupiers in syria are living and looting on borrowed time. They face an inevitable bloody humiliation. when that day comes though, i jus hope the turks and their cheerleaders keep that same macho bully attitude.. and dont start crying about evil assad, iran and russia slaughtering their turkish cannon fodder in syria,

 

[PakistaniAtBahrain]

First of all. You have no shame to start abusing like this.

piss off. you keep coming up with lies and never retract it. now you lied about ISIS being in syria before the civil war, and that russia and iran werent helped assad from day 1 despite both sides making statements that they were helping.

If you cannot have civilized conversation

i have no intention of being civilised with you. for weeks i have seen you do nothing but lie, and act like you are open minded. on the contrary, you are just a typical indian, close minded and here to spout rubbish.

ISIS was not there from Day 1 but the power vaccum which got created due to outside intervention in Syrian civil dispute led to the creation and expansion of ISIS.

no. ISIS had time to move in because assad's allies were slowing down his fall, long enough for isis to emerge in syria from iraq and it all went tits up.

Russia did not actively involve itself in the war in the initial years. Only later when ISIS threatened to completely consume Syria did Russia entered with its air strikes.

as if airstrikes are the only form of support. then in that case the rebels got no support from arabs, turkey and the west.

Junagarh is a closed matter as you never staked claim at UN.

that is not the discussion. Junagarh was not legally India's land when it occupied it, let alone did the plebiscite. they were all illegal moves since the instrument of accession to Pakistan was done long before that . so why is that ok for india to invade, occupy and officially annex it, but Turkey cant temporarily occupy parts of northern syria? i am using your logic against you bozo.

I speak whatever is true.

turkey is long overdue for a big slap......

they have voluntarily put their troops into a vulnerable state in syria. where they have 0 legal status and only remain untill turkey is strong enough to bully syria...

this equation can only go on as long as Iran and Russia allow it. As soon as Russia and Iran make the serious step of kicking the turks out. it will be turkey shooting season on those occupiers of syrian land....

Turkish occupiers in syria are living and looting on borrowed time. They face an inevitable bloody humiliation. when that day comes though, i jus hope the turks and their cheerleaders keep that same macho bully attitude.. and dont start crying about evil assad, iran and russia slaughtering their turkish cannon fodder in syria,

you can fight for the minority of syrians. Turkey is fighting for the majority and common sense.

 

[vostok]

Well, I suppose Turks would be not very pleased if Syria occupied some lands of Turkey for fighting terrorists or another reason.

 

[magra]

i have no intention of being civilised with you.

Sure. End of discussion. Go and blow yourself up.

 

[PakistaniAtBahrain]

Sure. End of discussion. Go and blow yourself up.

yeah. run from the debate you little sh*t.

 

[T-SaGe]

There are accusations, post-truth work here that are not based on any proved arguments, and clearly insults against a nation. There are forum rules one click away and under this topic almost all forum rules have been violated. I thought this was a military forum. However, I started to realize that its just another dirty pit.

The thread was opened on the basis of a fake allegation. Just in couple hours, it was tried to draw a picture by support with other unrelated claims, spamming the subject in an organized manner. And now the reflex is breaking by openly insulting this nation. Look, this is a very typical example of a psyop. If a mod sees this work and does not get involved in the subject, either a miserable person who sold what it belongs to and developed a relationship of interest; or too incompetent and apprentice to understand these concepts and studies.

@WebMaster

 

[magra]

yeah. run from the debate you little sh*t.

you ran from the debate by starting to abuse you jihadi.. from now on .. you are 'ignored'

 

[PakistaniAtBahrain]

you ran from the debate by starting to abuse you jihadi.. from now on .. you are 'ignored'

run. if india does something its all halal. but if turkey or pakistan does it then its haram. great logic.

 

[mike2000 is back]

ISIS was not there from Day 1 but the power vaccum which got created due to outside intervention in Syrian civil dispute led to the creation and expansion of ISIS.
Russia did not actively involve itself in the war in the initial years. Only later when ISIS threatened to completely consume Syria did Russia entered with its air strikes.

Lol You really think Russia entered Syria because of ISIS? you couldn't be more wrong . Russia entered Syria to protect it's interests and by default Assad, military base with it's only access to the meditarranean sea and continued influence on the only middle Eastern country where they still have control and influence over. It had absolutely NOTHING to do with ISIS, in fact Russia's biggest target from day one in Syria has been FSA not ISIS, since they were and are the biggest threat to Assad regime. ISIS was just a convenient excuse many foreign powers used to get into Syria.

 

[aziqbal]

10 years of bloody war and over 500,000 Syrians dead and we are still on this topic

modern day genocide only no one calls it genocide

and this is coming from someone who is neutral in this war

I dont take any sides in this war other than please just stop it someone enough is enough

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

over 500,000 Syrians dead

99% of the deaths are due to disease. Only 1% of that is due to bullets and bombs. When war happens, infrastructure is the first casualty. Without clean water, disease is rampant. As for the total number of deaths, it's probably in the ball park of 100,000 to 200,000. 500,000 seems to be an over estimation. In any event. Syria was over populated before the war and is still over populated. In fact, there's probably more people in Syria now compared to 2011. Keep in mind Syria's population was 4 million in the 1960s and by 2010 it had swelled to 20 million. If war wasn't going to happen I don't know what was. Unless Syria can keep its population controlled to a healthy number, war simply won't end. There isn't enough resources in Syria to feed 20 million people.

 

[Neurath]

sunnis in name only. just like you are a muslim in name only.

O bhai never go there. We humans don't decide who is Muslim and who isn't.

 

[PakistaniAtBahrain]

O bhai never go there. We humans don't decide who is Muslim and who isn't.

please dont go imam 2pac on me with that "only Allah can judge me". the rules were made clear on who is and isnt a muslim from day 1, what to do and what not to do, through the clear instructions in the Quran and Sunnah, which are there to implement and not be a bed time story.

through his own mouth, he doesnt pray, and everyone knows those that dont pray arent muslim.

“Then, there has succeeded them a generation who have given up prayer and have followed their desires. So they will be thrown in Hell. Except those who repent and believe, and work righteousness.”Qur’an 19:59-60