Turkey raises Kashmir issue, India unhappy

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Somebody should ban Erdogan for trolling so much in diplomacy.

is this a joke???? who is a bigger troll, Erdogan or someone like PM Netanyahu? Who sounds more like an extremist when they talk, please inform me.

Who decides which is a disputed territory and which is not ?

Oscar the Grouch

have you met?

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Do you ever see India giving up Kashmir? Honestly?

The most that will ever happen, is Kashmir Valley, just the valley, getting some level of autonomous powers.

Doesn't matter if its a disputed territory or not.

well obviously since india claims Kashmir as its "parcel" -- it's "integral part" of sorts --naturally they will be loathe to acknowledge its Azadi (which would be the inevitable end-result, which some bhartis simply cannot swallow)


I could take some fire for saying it, but me personally --- i'd have no loss of sleep seeing it become an independent nation.

 

[KS]

is this a joke???? who is a bigger troll, Erdogan or someone like PM Netanyahu? Who sounds more like an extremist when they talk, please inform me.

Netanyahu is a hawk - but a hawk who walks his talk. Erdogan is a troll who can only yap.

Oscar the Grouch

have you met?

Yep and he says Kurdistan is a disputed area wherein the Kurds must be allowed to express their right to self determination.

 

[Roybot]

well obviously since india claims Kashmir as its "parcel" -- it's "integral part" of sorts --naturally they will be loathe to acknowledge its Azadi (which would be the inevitable end-result, which some bhartis simply cannot swallow)


I could take some fire for saying it, but me personally --- i'd have no loss of sleep seeing it become an independent nation.

Its just that I don't see it happening. I mean what incentive does India as a country have, to let go huge swathes of territory. If India was loosing in Kashmir, then I would be the first one to advocate "azaadi" for Kashmir, but its not

Terrorism has gone down, infrastructure development in the region is underway, tourists are coming back, economy is picking up. India is only going to get stronger, both economically and militarily, if India didn't bow to pressure before, will it now? Just doesn't seem plausible.

If India had decided to follow the Chinese way, Indians from other states would have flooded Kashmir by now, and this popular demand for accession(which is limited to the valley) wouldn't even be popular no more.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

the Kashmiri dispute isn't one of economics or tourism. It's one of self-determination, and the writing is on the wall as far as the sentiments of Kashmiris is concerned (not just in the restive valley)


@ KS --- Turkey's borders are internationally recognized; as are india's and as are Pakistan's ---however the LoC is a mere ceasefire line and not much else. The Kashmiri dispute is one of the oldest existing (and yet to be resolved) disputes on the UN agenda

 

[Vinod2070]

UN has no time for this so called "dispute". No one in the world does.

UN chief has himself aid that the resolution has become irrelevant.

Nothing is happening to Kashmir. No change in borders and no one knows it better than the PA. They are more worried about the Durand border now and the claims of Afghanistan on the Pushtuns and their areas East of the non existent Durand line.

 

[Ammyy]

the Kashmiri dispute isn't one of economics or tourism. It's one of self-determination, and the writing is on the wall as far as the sentiments of Kashmiris is concerned (not just in the restive valley)


@ KS --- Turkey's borders are internationally recognized; as are india's and as are Pakistan's ---however the LoC is a mere ceasefire line and not much else. The Kashmiri dispute is one of the oldest existing (and yet to be resolved) disputes on the UN agenda

To which UN refuse to discuss from decades

 

[KS]

@ KS --- Turkey's borders are internationally recognized; as are india's and as are Pakistan's ---however the LoC is a mere ceasefire line and not much else. The Kashmiri dispute is one of the oldest existing (and yet to be resolved) disputes on the UN agenda

Interntional borders are not set in stone AZ that no one can violate.

Any nation can change its stance depending upon its interest and unfortunately for Turkey it has some disputes in Kurdistan. I dont know how those Kurds are any less human than the Kashmiris in demanding the Right to Self determination.

As I have made it clear an artificial,impotent org like the UN has no mandate giving rubber stamps that this area is disputed and this is not.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

To which UN refuse to discuss from decades

the same UN which took a reasonably strong 'exception' to the fact that the occupational forces (sissies) in occupied Kashmir were impersonating UN peace-keeping troops

 

[Vinod2070]

The sissies actually tried to come to Kashmir immediately after the USSR went back from Afghanistan. They were filled with bravado.

"Hum Afghan hain, tum bachchon ki sena ho" (We are Afghan Pushtuns, IA is an army of kids), they would brag.

Their arse was kicked so hard by IA, none of those sissies ever dared come again. They went back to killing each other as always.

But as we know, these people know how to win consolation prizes for themselves when the real battle has been lost.

Works for us.