Turkey Opens First Mideast Military Base in Qatar

[somebozo]

this will have very deep geo-strategic implication..this is the first time since the ottoman empire that Turkish forces are present on gulf soil..it will also create tensions between S.Arabia and Qatar. Especially when Saudi Arabia is actively funding and arming Egyptian army as a balance force in Arabia...

 

[bsruzm]

we have proof that the Turkish Republic is supporting people we deem terrorists

Mısır'ın darbeci Cumhurbaşkanı Sisi'nin yakın zamanda Fetullah Gülen hareketinin kilit isimlerini Mısır'da ağırlayacağı da bu programda açıklandı.

how we have met with the PKK (probably to discuss the Syrian crisis).

Egypt, since Sisi coup is in contact with PYD. Morsi stood with Turkey in Syria.

 

[Frogman]

Mısır'ın darbeci Cumhurbaşkanı Sisi'nin yakın zamanda Fetullah Gülen hareketinin kilit isimlerini Mısır'da ağırlayacağı da bu programda açıklandı.


Egypt, since Sisi coup is in contact with PYD. Morsi stood with Turkey in Syria.

That is only proof that Ahmed Moussa is a fool. Something no one can disagree with. The fact is we do not host wanted Gulen Movement figures, we do not allow them to run a shadow parliament, we do not allow them to open their own Sat TV channels, and we do not allow them to transfer funds that allow their movement (which was only designated a terrorist organisation in May of this year) to conduct acts of terrorism on Turkish soil. If anything your strategic partner the United States has a far more hands on relationship with the movement by hosting its leader and its judicial system blocking any lawsuits against him that may lead to his extradition. You're argument is utterly weak.

Morsi was with Turkey on Syria. However, do you think your views towards Syria are particularly successful? I doubt anyone could argue that.

Egypt's current Syria policy is far more neutral and far more popular with the Egyptian population than Morsi's. To be honest charging head first into a nuclear grade clusterfuck really wasn't much of a policy and only ever served to deepen secterain divides in the region and in the country (4 Shias were executed by Islamists on the back of Morsi's Syria speech).

 

[bsruzm]

The fact is we do not host wanted Gulen Movement figures, we do not allow them to run a shadow parliament, we do not allow them to open their own Sat TV channels, and we do not allow them to transfer funds that allow their movement (which was only designated a terrorist organisation in May of this year) to conduct acts of terrorism on Turkish soil.

Prove me that Turkey does all these.

 

[Frogman]

Prove me that we do.

The shadow parliament has been allowed to operate since 2014.

http://www.ikhwanweb.com/article.php?id=31942

http://www.dunyabulteni.net/haberler/317529/musluman-kardesler-surgunde-meclis-kurdu

Muslim Brotherhood TV channels (Alsharq, Rabaa, Egypt Now etc) continue to operate even without permits. @Amun has already provided a video showing the kind of content they air on a regular basis.

http://www.globalmbwatch.com/2015/0...slim-brotherhood-tv-channel-broadcast-turkey/

www.radikal.com.tr/turkiye/ihvan-medya-bagcilarda-1285334/

The Egyptian Navy and Border Guard routinely intercept Turkish flagged vessels carrying arms that are used in low level acts of terrorism within Egypt. A lot of Turkish arms intended for civilian markets also end up being smuggled into Egypt.

http://www.skynewsarabia.com/web/article/342453/مصر-جرحى-بهجمات-نقاط-للجيش

 

[bsruzm]

www.radikal.com.tr/turkiye/ihvan-medya-bagcilarda-1285334/

Rabaa refused your claims.

The Egyptian Navy and Border Guard routinely intercept Turkish flagged vessels carrying arms that are used in low level acts of terrorism within Egypt. A lot of Turkish arms intended for civilian markets also end up being smuggled into Egypt.

You are talking about fake gun's which Turkey took it seriously and asked Egypt to have an investigation about it back then.

http://www.haberler.com/disisleri-misir-turkiye-kaynakli-kurusiki-silah-5436575-haberi/

The shadow parliament has been allowed to operate since 2014.

I never heard of these guys, they probably made a declaration then and that's it.

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and we do not allow them to transfer funds that allow their movement (which was only designated a terrorist organisation in May of this year) to conduct acts of terrorism on Turkish soil.

What about that?

 

[Frogman]

Rabaa refused your claims.

Err..OK. Doesn't change anything.

You are talking about fake gun's which Turkey took it seriously and asked Egypt to have an investigation about it back then.

Converted replicas are often used to kill Police Officers in Egypt. Nothing about these firearms is fake. Weapon shipments filled with replicas and Turkish firearms meant for the civilian market are routinely intercepted. Nothing will change that.

I never heard of these guys, they probably made a declaration then and that's it.

Nope. They continue to hold sessions and incite violence on the very same TV channels Turkey refuses to close.

Not my problem that you're unaware of this.

What about that?

What about it?

We don't give anyone political or material support that wishes to conduct terrorist activities against the Turkish Republic. It's simple really.

Explain me that, too:

Makes some predictions. Gets some right and some wrong. Completely irrelevant to the matter at hand.

 

[somebozo]

That is only proof that Ahmed Moussa is a fool. Something no one can disagree with. The fact is we do not host wanted Gulen Movement figures, we do not allow them to run a shadow parliament, we do not allow them to open their own Sat TV channels, and we do not allow them to transfer funds that allow their movement (which was only designated a terrorist organisation in May of this year) to conduct acts of terrorism on Turkish soil. If anything your strategic partner the United States has a far more hands on relationship with the movement by hosting its leader and its judicial system blocking any lawsuits against him that may lead to his extradition. You're argument is utterly weak.

Morsi was with Turkey on Syria. However, do you think your views towards Syria are particularly successful? I doubt anyone could argue that.

Egypt's current Syria policy is far more neutral and far more popular with the Egyptian population than Morsi's. To be honest charging head first into a nuclear grade clusterfuck really wasn't much of a policy and only ever served to deepen secterain divides in the region and in the country (4 Shias were executed by Islamists on the back of Morsi's Syria speech).

Erdogan was riding on high horse of power thinking of himself as the new Ottoman Khalifah..he even built a new palace to commemorate his accession to Khilafah..only for his dreams to fall flat on his face...this week alone..two apologies from Turkey...to normalize ties with Russia and Israel..The NATO literally disowned Turkey over its feud with Russia..

 

[bsruzm]

Converted replicas are often used to kill Police Officers in Egypt. Nothing about these firearms is fake. Weapon shipments filled with replicas and Turkish firearms meant for the civilian market are routinely intercepted. Nothing will change that.

Good but Turkey asked Egypt to investigate it, did Egypt? Is it fabricated?

Nope. They continue to hold sessions and incite violence on the very same TV channels Turkey refuses to close.

Sisi complains about violence?

What about it?

What funds are you talking about?

Makes some predictions

Sure, predictions.

Bro, did you watched the above clip ? Commentator is openly supporting terrorism in Egypt.

Imagine Egypt allowing a pro-PKK propaganda channel in their country which will openly call PKK sympatizans to attack on security forces. It's unacceptable.

You are right but this isn't PKK and unlike what they claim, MB is not terror organization. Their leader was Egypt's first elected pres before a violent Sisi coup.

 

[Amun]

You are right but this isn't PKK and unlike what they claim, MB is not terror organization. Their leader was Egypt's first elected pres before a violent Sisi coup.

Who said so....just because you said it is not terrorists doesn't make it true.....
About PKK it is not a terrorist organization in Egypt but it has no support from Egyptian government.....
and believe me....if Egyptian government supported PKK as you dectator (Khalifa) did for MB......you will know it ..... And you will not like it.

 

[bsruzm]

Who said so....just because you said it is not terrorists doesn't make it true.....

If that's a terrorist then is Egypt a banana republic?

____
Good old days...When the smell of money (like rice), hasn't reach Sisi yet:

Note: I am not talking on behalf of Turkey or people but myself.

 

[Amun]

If that's a terrorist then is Egypt a banana republic?

____
Good old days...When the smell of money (like rice), hasn't reach Sisi yet:

Note: I am not talking on behalf of Turkey or people but myself.

Mm mm ..... I believe that you are one supporter to those terrorists as you use the same disgusting childish words......about that traitor Morsy...don't you know that he gave sensitive info about the Army and its distribution throughout the country to Qatar and broadcasted on Aljazeera.
About the rice.....you also stepped back for the Russian rice

 

[bsruzm]

on't you know that he gave sensitive info about the Army

I don't believe it.

 

[Zulkarneyn]

I don't believe it.

Egypt is a corrupt dictatorship who doesn't respect or represent the people's voice. (Kafa yorma bu araplarla, bunlar medeniyete ulasmasi icin bir kac yüzyil gecmesi gerek)

To Egyptians. Your people elected Morsi government, 1 year in rule, Military asked people to dissent against the ELECTED government. People dissent, the military proceeds the coup. Not 1 week passes and the military massacres the respectfully elected politicians and their supporters.

What kind of justice can you expect from a country whose military jails and massacres the government the people voted for?
A kind of justice you will find in corrupt dictatorships with completely corrupt courts.

about that traitor Morsy

Everyone with an IQ exceeding 65 are aware that you are the real traitors. Morsi was elected, but your KSA/Israel/USA backed/funded army wasn't too enthusiastic with electing a democratic President/government in the Arab world. Because that would have a cripplign effect in the rest of the Arabic peninsula which would bring about the demise of corrupt kings and princes. So they had to shut Egypt down to keep their golden toilets and private jets - and that's the reaility you can't deal with. In short, the overwhelming poor Egyptian voice is being thwarted due to immense propaganda from Egyptian KSA funded tv-channels who wish to keep Egypt a dictatorship that sheeply follows their masters in KSA

 

[Amun]

I don't believe it.

I don't care.

Egypt is a corrupt dictatorship who doesn't respect or represent the people's voice. (Kafa yorma bu araplarla, bunlar medeniyete ulasmasi icin bir kac yüzyil gecmesi gerek)

To Egyptians. Your people elected Morsi government, 1 year in rule, Military asked people to dissent against the ELECTED government. People dissent, the military proceeds the coup. Not 1 week passes and the military massacres the respectfully elected politicians and their supporters.

What kind of justice can you expect from a country whose military jails and massacres the government the people voted for?
A kind of justice you will find in corrupt dictatorships with completely corrupt courts.


Everyone with an IQ exceeding 65 are aware that you are the real traitors. Morsi was elected, but your KSA/Israel/USA backed/funded army wasn't too enthusiastic with electing a democratic President/government in the Arab world. Because that would have a cripplign effect in the rest of the Arabic peninsula which would bring about the demise of corrupt kings and princes. So they had to shut Egypt down to keep their golden toilets and private jets - and that's the reaility you can't deal with. In short, the overwhelming poor Egyptian voice is being thwarted due to immense propaganda from Egyptian KSA funded tv-channels who wish to keep Egypt a dictatorship that sheeply follows their masters in KSA

This kind of ignorance I haven't seen for along time ago......one like you can not be brave enough to critsize his own dectator in Turkey (as he might block your account in the PDF) ...
Arresting Judges,Police officers and if doesn't win the elections he repeat it......blocking Facebook and Twitter and traitor for his allies ...... Then selling his dignity for political reasons(Israel and Russia)....., I believe you have more problems in your homeland that will make you busy .... If you really need democracy..... Then you can ask Egyptians about things that you are not aware of.