TURKEY KEEN TO JOIN CPEC

[T-123456]

It is amazing Turkey and Pakistan have strategic locations. They cannot do anything without Iran's help.
Maybe you have to change the definition for strategic location.

Maybe you should take a better look at the map of the area.
If Iran doesnt want to join,there are other territories to connect both.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Pakistani members don't get excited too much cause the route which will work between China and Turkey will be from central asia not from CPEC . So they are talking about the reviving of the old silk road. Until and unless Iran join CPEC, Turkey won't have access from CPEC. So Iran is the missing part of the puzzle.
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@Mrc @T-123456 @MadDog
turkey isnt talking abt china's one road one belt initiative only which u have shown in diagram. It is specifically interested in CPEC and Gwadar through already existing ECO initiative (remember Gul Train?). Quetta-Tehran-Istanbul road rail network. In Quetta it is expected to be connected with already existing infrastructure of CPEC (CPEC's most important western route), That would take cargo to gwadar and karachi or vise versa.

These two countries as well as Bulgaria and Romania r also interested in this initiative. They believe that in future Pakistan may allow them to trade with india too by using Pakistan's great road and motorway infrastructure as well as through railway lines, which however Pakistan wont allow unless India gives up on Kashmir.

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

@Sinopakfriend @Shotgunner51 ....Guyz, Can you highlight the importance of Turkey joining CPEC?

 

[MadDog]

Pakistani members don't get excited too much cause the route which will work between China and Turkey will be from central asia not from CPEC . So they are talking about the reviving of the old silk road. Until and unless Iran join CPEC, Turkey won't have access from CPEC. So Iran is the missing part of the puzzle.
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Chahbahar port is barely 72km away and Pak-Iran border is around 40-50 km away from Gwadar, which is starting point of CPEC. Turkey can be connected through Iran, as was proposed in ECO.

As we speak, regional strategic posturing is taking place, just the way it did after Nepoleonic Wars, after WWI and after WWII. The recent defence logistics pact signed between India and US, will now give strategic access to US into the heart of South Asia, thus making sure India's long term strategic interests are aligned with those of the US. This will further tighten the embrace between China and Russia and the role of both vis a vis Pakistan will rapidly increase. CPEC, North-South Lahore-Karachi gas pipeline ($2Billion worth being constructed by Russia), Gazprom's interests in investing in energy sector and recent offers of defence military equipment including the talks going on for SU-35 shows that gradually new strategic alignments are taking place. One can't forget the recent rapprochement between Russia and Turkey and see that development in light of the regional alliances taking shape. It would be natural for Iran to join this group, rather than to tow the line of US and India, which has no regional countries with them other than Japan which is pretty far away.

 

[wiseone2]

Maybe you should take a better look at the map of the area.
If Iran doesnt want to join,there are other territories to connect both.

you have to go through Russia, Caspian Sea or Central Asia. it won't be cheap. you might as well load the containers on a ship and send it like today

 

[A-Team]

A new bloc is emerging. Iran and Russia will join too and everybody will enjoy prosperity and peace. Not this India/US rhetoric of control through fear and isolation and dirty subversive tactics.

I like your optimism you do realize that US is still the sole superpower, Russia, China and what not though from time to time make noises but in the greater scheme of things they will ditch all of their smaller partners if it really went against US interests. Watching and reading too much sputnik,russia today is not good for health

Besides can you point me to some of the core converging point of interests between these so called new emerging bloc of yours?

 

[wiseone2]

I like your optimism you do realize that US is still the sole superpower, Russia, China and what not though from time to time make noises but in the greater scheme of things they will ditch all of their smaller partners if it really went against US interests. Watching and reading too much sputnik,russia today is not good for health

Besides can you point me to some of the core converging point of interests between these so called new emerging bloc of yours?

None - other than the fact Pakistan have fallen out of favor with Uncle Sam

the irony is that Turkey, Iran and Pakistan were CENTO members with Uncle Sam joined at the hip. They choose not to do anything back then.

 

[T-123456]

you have to go through Russia, Caspian Sea or Central Asia. it won't be cheap. you might as well load the containers on a ship and send it like today

Check again,there is already a connection to Azerbaijan and over the caspian to Turkmenistan but im sure the Iranians will be in ,so no need for that.

 

[wiseone2]

Check again,there is already a connection to Azerbaijan and over the caspian to Turkmenistan but im sure the Iranians will be in ,so no need for that.

From Turkmenistan how do you plan to reach Pakistan ?

Iran is not going to join if Pakistan and Turkey are too close to Saudi Arabia. you are on opposing sides in Syria.

It boils down to cost - how much are you saving ?

 

[T-123456]

From Turkmenistan how do you plan to reach Pakistan ?

Iran is not going to join if Pakistan and Turkey are too close to Saudi Arabia. you are on opposing sides in Syria.

It boils down to cost - how much are you saving ?

You should really do some research on Turkiye Iran Pakistan relations,there is no side picking.
We have good relations with both sides.
Edit:both KSA and Iran

 

[Finer]

So i was right. Turkey joining CPEC was the distinct possibility, but nonetheless, it was still possibility. Here it is, nearing towards official as we speak. What's up, Indians? Need any more pills to digest the reality of CPEC, Indians?

 

[Crixus]

The deals with India already crossing many billions 9 billion for super Sukhois more then 20 billion for stealth fighter , Russia is building nuclear reactors in India , T-90 modernization program , nuclear subs , S-400 , Frigrates . these deals are between Russia and India ... our relations with US are not at cost of Russia

US may be important but they can never replace Russia .

Chahbahar port is barely 72km away and Pak-Iran border is around 40-50 km away from Gwadar, which is starting point of CPEC. Turkey can be connected through Iran, as was proposed in ECO.

As we speak, regional strategic posturing is taking place, just the way it did after Nepoleonic Wars, after WWI and after WWII. The recent defence logistics pact signed between India and US, will now give strategic access to US into the heart of South Asia, thus making sure India's long term strategic interests are aligned with those of the US. This will further tighten the embrace between China and Russia and the role of both vis a vis Pakistan will rapidly increase. CPEC, North-South Lahore-Karachi gas pipeline ($2Billion worth being constructed by Russia), Gazprom's interests in investing in energy sector and recent offers of defence military equipment including the talks going on for SU-35 shows that gradually new strategic alignments are taking place. One can't forget the recent rapprochement between Russia and Turkey and see that development in light of the regional alliances taking shape. It would be natural for Iran to join this group, rather than to tow the line of US and India, which has no regional countries with them other than Japan which is pretty far away.

 

[Finer]

You should really do some research on Turkiye Iran Pakistan relations,there is no side picking.
We have good relations with both sides.
Edit:both KSA and Iran

After the failed military takeover in Turkey, Turkey government has grown closer with Iran and Russia more than ever. CPEC is looking strong now because Iran and Russia are also involved. Welcome to CPEC club, Turkey.

 

[Mrc]

Indians on fire as usual.....

 

[T-123456]

After the failed military takeover in Turkey, Turkey government has grown closer with Iran and Russia more than ever. CPEC is looking strong now because Iran and Russia are also involved. Welcome to CPEC club, Turkey.

Show your flags,so we can see where you are from?