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TURKEY KEEN TO JOIN CPEC

Turkish are our beloved brothers, participation of Turkey may cause the change the economy game across the world.
We hope for the best.

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Pakistan offers easy access to the Indian ocean for China. Once China finishes its infrastructural project in Pakistan it will offer limitless oppurtunities as it will be able to station warships and presence in the ocean.

China's modus operandi is quite opposite to the West's. She doesn't operate on instilling ideology like the US. She is interested in preserving the independency/sovereignty of allied nations and invests in them economically for positive sum outcome or win/win.

What is wrong about ideology ?? If it is bad like communism it will lose. You need ideas to run the world.
For the better or worse the West offers ideas
 
What is wrong about ideology ?? If it is bad like communism it will lose. You need ideas to run the world.
For the better or worse the West offers ideas
Western ideas and ideals are doomed to fail. They lead to corruption, exploitation and false superiority complex that leads to colonisation
 
SCO Framework is all about perservation of sovereignity of nation states, mutual cooperation in this regard and joint mechanism of security against unconventional threats.

Great rugs are stichted slowly...one stich at a time, with care and foresight. It takes time yet the end result is something of deep beauty.

SCO will be acting more robustly sooner than later. The mechanism of telligence sharing are already taking formalised shaped. Just look at Sino-Pak overt cooperation. Same is happening in Central asian space.

The unconventional threat is foreign sponsored and facilitated. Whoever controls the eusarian space controls the future of geo-economic superemecy. CPEC is just but one manifestation of this deeper alignment or great power architecture if you will.

However, SCO is not a military alliance. And that makes it more flexible. Pak and india joining it can bring added benefits..though I am a bit cautious on this. Pak being fully in SCO camp came at cost for Pak strategic space vis-a-vis West and to some extent with Pak traditional friends in ME. Example, Pak staying away from Yemen proxy war or Syria for that matter.

The essence of circle is its centre. First the Core and then the Shell.

The emerging Eurasian space centered, initially, on the New Eurasian Land Bridge of the OBOR is fiercely opposed by the systemic leadership. This can be viewed quite simply by the overt attempts to stop the enlargement of the AIIB.

But China's ideas have a certain virtue: They are organic and non-confrontational. Hence, they do not directly challenge, but, in reality, they offer the most existential challenge by proving to be viable alternatives. This creates serious systemic reverberations. The old has died, but the new cannot be born. The rise of religious and ethnic extremism and violence in recent years is likely a product of such systemic stiffness.

China offers a better model, and a less destructive move to a higher state of being as polities and nations.

The SCO is an important aspect/component of this new model. Rightfully, it is located at the heart of the Eurasian political space, Central Asia. From there it is now moving to include wider circles.

Pakistan and India's membership into the group is a welcome news so long as the institutional core of the SCO remains firm, regulated and goal-oriented. In the end, if there is going to be a new Eurasian supercontinent, Pakistan and India (as much as China and India) will have to learn to coexist and co-prosper.

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As for the 'Uighur terrorism and Turkey' issue raised here, we are practical, result-oriented polity. Past experience can be re-constructed depending on present reality. China does definitely have its ways and means of assessment of the situation. It is a goal-oriented and principle-driven country. If the goal of zero-terrorism, zero-extremism, zero-separatism is achieved and the principle of non-intervention and respect for sovereignty is recognized, China can work with any state actor.

China will continue to eliminate terrorists regardless of foreign sentiment.

If one fails to recognize and respects this, them one s bound to be sidelined by the world's largest trading nation and leading institution-maker.

After all, all China wants is non-interference in internal affairs of a nation. This is something China gives out to other plentifully. It is China's right to demand the same treatment from others.

Just absorb the 400-year old lesson and practice of nation-state and state sovereignty, and move on.
 
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Western ideas and ideals are doomed to fail. They lead to corruption, exploitation and false superiority complex that leads to colonisation

What is an Western idea and Western ideal ?? The truth is non-Westerners of all shades queue up to emigrate to Western lands. that speaks for itself
 
A further note, if you look at the initial map of the OBOR (2013 version), you will see the southern Eurasian corridor passing through Turkey via central Asia.


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The map, however, has been factually updated.

While the northern route has progressed very fast, the southern route has been modified. Now, the Central Asian Route also follows the direction of the Northern Route, a little bit down south, but without touching West Asia.

There are more than 20 rail-links between Central Asia and Europe that originates from China's West and Central regions.

The very volatile and unstable situation in Turkey and the larger region must have played a big role here. But, the lingering issue of sponsorship of terrorist and separatist activities must also have weighted big here.

What Turkey misses here is huge; once the alternative Southern Route is fully established and interest linkages are created along the road, there will be no need for another route across Turkey into Europe.

In fact, as I see it from my extensive studies, China's policy makers are quite content with the positive response from Central Asia and Eastern Europe.

My point is, Turkey can easily be sidelined as it, unlike the popular opinion in Turkey, provides little geographical-logistical advantage that cannot be off-set or by-passed.

CPEC into a stabilized Afghanistan and Iran via Pakistan would provide the perfect access to the entire Levant and Gulf.
 
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A further note, if you look at the initial map of the OBOR (2013 version), you will see the southern Eurasian corridor passing through Turkey via central Asia.


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The map, however, has been factually updated.

While the northern route has progressed very fast, the southern route has been modified. Now, the Central Asian Route also follows the direction of the Northern Route, a little bit down south, but without touching West Asia.

There are more than 20 rail-links between Central Asia and Europe that originates from China's West and Central regions.

The very volatile and unstable situation in Turkey and the larger region must have played a big role here. But, the lingering issue of sponsorship of terrorist and separatist activities must have weighted big here.

What Turkey misses here is huge; once the alternative Southern Route is fully established and interest linkages are created along the road, there will be no need for another route across Turkey into Europe.

In fact, as I see it from my extensive studies, China's policy makers are quite content with the positive response from Central Asia and Eastern Europe.

My point is, Turkey can easily be sidelined as it, unlike the popular opinion in Turkey, provides little geographical-logistical advantage that cannot be off-set or by-passed.

CPEC into a stabilized Afghanistan and Iran via Pakistan would provide the perfect access to the entire Levant and Gulf.
the map does not have CPEC in it
 
the map does not have CPEC in it

CPEC is not one of the six main corridors. It is part of the southern corridor.

The map is not conclusive, as I pointed out above. In fact, it has been constantly modified.

OBOR being so comprehensive and involving so many actors, it has to remain organic. It cannot be rigid.
 
CPEC is not one of the six main corridors. It is part of the southern corridor.

The map is not conclusive, as I pointed out above. In fact, it has been constantly modified.

OBOR being so comprehensive and involving so many actors, it has to remain organic. It cannot be rigid.
thanks for the explanation

The exploited flee to the exploiter, true, which is a natural process

it does not explain why people from diverse backgrounds and cultures would want to emigrate
 

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