Turkey Is Changing the Middle East. The U.S. Doesn’t Get It. - Bloomberg.com

[yavar]

peshmerga fighter in Kirkuk changing military uniforms

 

[MMM-E]

I Don't know where you find Turkey or even Iraq to do with referendum
usually baseless claim

Turkish and Iraqi Armies did military exercises in Turkish-Iraqi border to attack on Iraqi Kurdistan
and the US-Israel backed Iraqi Kurdistan leave Kirkuk

now Kirkuk is belong to Iraqi government ,,,, stupid loser BARZANI lost Kirkuk and Turkish support

 

[Bengal71]

Your view is unrealistic. How can a financially strapped Pakistan lead the Ummah? For real though. I agree Pakistan is a muslim power, but i highly doubt Pakistan in its current state can lead the muslim world. you can dream, but dont sleep.

Even if Pakistan becomes financially sound, they can't lead the Muslim world. In Muslim world there are some nations who de facto claim leadership, the Arabs, the Turks, the Persians and maybe the Afghans. The Arabs will never agree to accept the leadership of an ajami nation like Pakistan, Turks won't either, Bengalis won't, not sure about Indonesia, that's it, pretty much covered the Islamic world.

because of to block possible gas and oil pipe line projects between Iran and China via Afghanistan

Pakistan is not threat to the west and Israel
Pakistan has no potential and experience to organize Islamic World
but with Turkey





Pakistan is nothing in Balkans and Africa and in the Middle East

on the other hand Turkey is everywhere with great history and soft power , even with military ( Balkans,Syria,Iraq,Qatar,Somalia,Africa, Asia,etc )

even the US,Israel and S.Arabia supported dictator SISI to destroy alliance between Turkey and Egypt
because of the Turks easly can unite Islamic World , problem is puppet dictators SISI,Saudi Family,etc

since 2013 Turkish economy is under attack by the West and 1 USD has risen to 5,4 TL from 1,8 TL
Turkish currency dropped by 300% since 2013
if not , today Turkey would have $1,8 trillion of GDP Nominal .... 2x Turkey = 1 Germany

in 2002 Turkey had $230 billion of GDP Nominal .. 10x Turkey = 1 Germany
in 2013 Turkey had $860 billion of GDP Nominal .. 4x Turkey = 1 Germany

Turkey is industrialized country
Turkey develops all weapons for Islamic World
Turks have 2200 years state and military tradition
and We Turks kicked all American proxies traitor scums since 2013 , now Turkey is independent









Turkish People helps all muslims around the world

You dont compare alawites and some secular communists with Sunni muslim Turkish People
They dont have vision and consciousness

but Sunni muslim Turkish People has strongest religious identity to unite Islamic world
We Turks fought Crusaders and Christian World around 1.000 years for ISLAM


Everybody attacks TURKEY
even criminal terrorist in New Zelland threatened Turkey and ERDOGAN , because of zionist CIA,MI6 and MOSSAD target ERDOGAN who is only problem for American-British-Israeli interests in Palestine

Pakistan can say nothing to China to support muslims in Xinjiang
but Turkey says everything to the US and Israel to support muslims in Palestine
Turkey says everything to China to support muslims in Xinjiang

Turks are so great and real muslim country in the world
rest of them think of their own interests


so Muslims should be unite or superpowers the West-Israel , China , India , even Russia always will destroy weak and defenseless Muslims .... and Turkey or Pakistan or any muslim country have no potential to become superpower

but 1.8 billion Islamic World together can become super power against the West-Israel , China , India , Russia

and Turkey and Pakistan only hope for 1.8 billion Islamic World

Agree to some extent. Out of the Arabs, Persians and Turks, I think the Turks are best suited to lead Islamic world, although I don't think any single country can lead others in this day and age.

 

[The SC]

Let's get real that MB was in charge of Egypt until the coup, MB still holds in Egypt despite all. I would say not only in Egypt. The only powerful country is Israel among those, and it's only in comparison to the listed countries.

The MB government held Egypt for about a year..and was rejected by the the Majority of Egyptians.. get your facts right please..

 

[bsruzm]

The MB government held Egypt for about a year..and was rejected by the the Majority of Egyptians.. get your facts right please..

It isn't over yet.

 

[The SC]

I honestly laughed out loud when I first heard Erdogan say that!

Not only does this guy have a big mouth, he's quite delusional and drunk on his own self admiration.



lol, all those powerful countries are worried about some Turkish delusion? Let's get real, now.

“Turkey is the only country that can lead the Muslim world.”.. from NATO..

 

[Titanium100]

Iran is not an ally of turkey and they denied the cooperation with turkey stop believing in that shit even for a second. They would bury Erdogan alive the Iranians if they had the opportunity that is how much they dislike the turks. Know your enemies

 

[The SC]

It isn't over yet.

Are you joking or hurt?

 

[MMM-E]

None of islamic country need a boss!!! We Turkish not a Boss of anyone!! We should focus on our country cos we are still poor country and still need to be develop more!!! I don’t know why some Turkish member spread bulls** and fake stupid dreams..

None of islamic country need a boss ?

the US,the UK , even France = boss of many Islamic countries such as Saudi Arabia,the Uae,Egypt,Bahreyn,Oman,Jordan,Kuwait,Libya and other Arab countries

Russia , Iran = boss of many Islamic countries such as Iraq,Syria,Lebanon


Islamic World has everything to become super power ( 1,8 billion population , Nuclear Weapon , Pakistan-Turkey-Iran together can develop all weapons , over $200 trillion of oil,gas,thorium,uranium,boron,gold reserves , Muslim countries control most important straits and channels for global trade )

but Islamic World rules by traitor puppet scums for American-British-Israeli interests

Europeans created European Union
The US,the UK and Israel even Canada,Australia,New Zelland are always allies
China has 1,4 billion huge population
India has 1,3 billion huge population
Russia has 7.000+ nuclear wearhrads
Japan and S.Korea are under the American protection

what about Islamic countries ? ...... Islamic countries are so poor , pathetic and defenseles

everbody attacked Islamic countries to steal their lands or rich natural resources ( Afghanistan,Iraq,Syria,Libya,Algeria,Mali,Somali,Iran and many more ) Turkey and Pakistan are under attack by the US,the UK,S.Arabia made terrorist organizations

Islamic Countries needs a leader to unite 1,8 billion of Islamic World for survive against criminal murderer bandit countries the US-Israel , the UK , France , Russia and China

or 1,8 billion of Islamic World will always so poor , pathetic and defenseles and criminal motherfckers will always destroy Islamic Countries






and ERDOGAN is trying to make Turkey as indepentendt and developed country
but Turkey is alone against criminal bandit countries the US-Israel , the UK , France , Russia and China

how can Turkey to become independent and developed country if bandit countries the US-Israel , the UK , France and their terrorists attacks Turkey since 2013 ?

since 2013 Turkish economy is under attack by the West and 1 USD has risen to 5,4 TL from 1,8 TL
Turkish currency dropped by 300% since 2013
if not , today Turkey would have $1,8 trillion of GDP Nominal .... 2x Turkey = 1 Germany

in 2002 Turkey had $230 billion of GDP Nominal .. 10x Turkey = 1 Germany
in 2013 Turkey had $860 billion of GDP Nominal .. 4x Turkey = 1 Germany


same senario about Iraq , Libya and Iran ,,,
Iraq , Libya and Iran have so rich oil and gas reserves but Iraqi and Iranian People are so poor because of bandit countries the US-Israel , the UK and France attacked and destroyed Iraq , Libya and Iran

Pakistan is under attack by the US,the UK,S.Arabia made terrorist organizations and the US,France,Israel even Russia support India against Pakistan



if 1,8 billion Islamic World would be unite , then nobody would attack on Islamic countries

of course Atheists and stupid idiots dont care about it

Turkey is the only country that can lead the Muslim world.”.. from NATO

traitor Arabs with Christian British destroyed Islamic Caliphate

if 1,8 billion Islamic World could not create organizations like NATO or the EU , shame on all 1,8 billion Islamic World

Turkey joined to NATO because of STALIN threatened TURKEY
after collapse of USSR , NATO has started attacking Turkey with proxies such as PKK/YPG and FETO


Maybe Arabs can lead the Muslim world ,,, but they are so pathetic and slaves
President Trump Says Saudi King Wouldn't Survive 'Two Weeks' Without U.S. Backing

 

[bsruzm]

Are you joking or hurt?

Hurt? No, I am not Egyptian. Though, I don't get why should I be joking?

 

[925boy]

We very well know about liar treacherous Persians alwasy says that we are with Turkey against Pkk terrorism ,
but in reality Iran support Pkk terrorism against Turkey

btw Turkey-Iran-Iraq kicked 2017 BARZANI referendum in N.Iraq

But Turkish official/news agency reported Turkey was doing joint military operation with Iran in Iraq, so Turkey in this case is responsible for the "fake news".

 

[damm1t]

“Turkey is the only country that can lead the Muslim world.”.. from NATO..

With-in Nato, US would be the most prefable sugar-daddy for most of Muslim states. We know who they are.

 

[925boy]

I can say that Pakistan is big dog in SCO's kernel ............ this is true ?

Its not true, but how is that relevant to Turkey's situation? SCO doesnt have "teeth" yet imo.

or Iran is lapdog of Russia ........ this is true ?

Iran isnt Russia's lapdog, but once again, how is that relevant to Turkey's situation? Iran and RUssia sometimes have coincidence of interests.Turkey is NATO work dog, literally.

I remind you the US and NATO attacks Turkey since 2010 because of ERDOGAN criticized Israeli SHIMON PERES in 2009 DAVOS to support muslims in Palestine against the US and Israel

Stop exaggerating, US and NATO had an argument with Turkey,US+ NATO have a deep, stable relationship with Turkey. And what did u do to Israel? just criticize? and you want an award from muslim world for doing that? pls relax.

and I remind you , in 2010 only Turkey and Brazil supported Iran for nuclear propram against the US and Israel

yes Turkey helped Iran ,esp with Halk bank and using gold. That was a good look by Turkey to Iran.

and the US - Israel attacked Turkey and Brazil ,,, the US - Israel destroyed the government in Brazil and finally they could find a lapdog to the US and Israel

BS. You're connecting 2 random things(Brazil getting new govt and Brazil's support for Iran's nuclear program) without providing proof they are actually connected. Former Brazil president/PM was corrupt/unpopular if i remember correctly. It wasnt US that removed that last govt.

the US - Israel and proxies attacks Turkey since 2013
but the US - Israel failed in Turkey to destroy ERDOGAN since 2013

Stop exaggerating. US/NATO/Israel will never do serious attack(yet at least) on Turkey because TUrkey is a good big dog in kernel. Yes US put some sanctions on Turkey, and YOUR ECONOMY GOT WOBBLY, so no, you're too broke to lead muslim world independently.

Turkey also did good "WORK" with US+GCC in letting ISIS terrorrists enter Syria to Fight assad early in the civil war. why not tell the full story of TUrkey's cooperation with NATO?
Pls dont tell half stories, tell the full story. There is alot more NATO/US cooperation with TUrkey than problems.

maybe Turks are stupid to commit suicide for Palestine,Iran and other Muslims

You havent done anyhting valuable for Palestine so once again, stop exaggerating. You only helped IRan because it advantaged you financially, so pls stop playing the victim card. NATO is giving you guys such a big help, suicide would be stupid for your country so relax.

and You are talking about criminal murderer , sectarian Iran who is hiding behind of Russia and China to create chaos in Iraq,Syria,Lebanon,Yemen

And Turkey is hiding behind NATO to allow ISIS enter Syria, trade oil with ISIS in SYria, track Iran via NATO radars in Turkish territory...blah blah. stop whining. Iran was going to "create chaos" in the ME regardless of Russia and China. In the ME, Russia and China concede to Iran, not the reverse. Iran is actually independent, while beloved Turkey is not.

even OBAMA gave Iraq to Iran ,,,

Not intentionally. Iran just took advantage of mistakes US made.

without Russian,Chinese even sometime American support Iran can not do anyshit in the Middle East

US never gave Iran help intentionally, so thats a lie.
As for Russian an Chinese help, i hope you know Russia and China help Iran "half way" at max right? T Hey help, but just a bit. Look at how China helped NK's ICBM+ missile program. Did China help Iran THAT much? NO. They worked with US to curb Iran's economy and nuclear program via UN sanctions so all those world powers to some degree have an agreed understanding on Iran. They all work together against Iran to some degree because they all know Iran will become too powerful to contain if they dont. You're just running your mouth off based on how things LOOK, not what they ARE.

and Turks are not stupid to fight Israel with NATO Weapons

Then what are you going to fight with? 600000000 Turkish military projects?LMAO

 

[MMM-E]

Iran isnt Russia's lapdog, but once again, how is that relevant to Turkey's situation? Iran and RUssia sometimes have coincidence of interests.Turkey is NATO work dog, literally.

Iran is lapdog of Russia in Syria
and Iran with christian Russians killed hundreds of thousands of innocent Muslims in Syria

even OBAMA gave Iraq to Iran because of Iran is very useful lapdog

and even former senior CIA official Graham Fuller said that We rule Saudi Arabia , We use Iran
but We can not do anything to Turkey , so ERDOGAN is a big problem
and former senior CIA official Graham Fuller organized and ruled CIA backed military coup attempt by FETO terrorist organization to destroy ERDOGAN in 2016 ... but they failed


dont compare criminal murderer terrorist state Iran with Turkey
Iran is a good lapdog to create chaos in Islamic Countries for American/Israeli interest


btw NATO is for defense
and Turkey never fought for American interests in Iraq and Afghanistan
but Iran and shiites helped the US to invade Iraq and Saudi Arabia,Kuwait financed invasion of Iraq

so maybe the UK,France,Germany are lapdogs of the US ( NATO ) who fought in Iraq or Afghanistan for American-Israeli interests

Stop exaggerating, US and NATO had an argument with Turkey,US+ NATO have a deep, stable relationship with Turkey. And what did u do to Israel? just criticize? and you want an award from muslim world for doing that? pls relax.

are you living on Mars ?

the US ,Israel and their proxies attack Turkey and Turkish Economy to destroy ERDOGAN since 2013

-- Gezi Park rebellion against ERDOGAN 27 May 2013 – 20 August 2013
-- Judicial Coup attempt by FETO terrorist organization against ERDOGAN 17 -25 December 2013
-- Big rebellion of PKK terrorist organization in 22 Turkish cities 2015-2016
-- PKK/YPG and ISIS terrorist attacks in Istanbul,Ankara,and other Turkish cities 2016
-- Military coup attempt by FETO terrorist organization against ERDOGAN 15 july 2016
-- the US gave weapons to 70.000+ PKK/YPG terrorists to create terror corridor in N.Syria against Turkey
-- The US attacked Turkish economy in 2017-2018

Turkey lost thousands of citizens and over $500 billion since 2013

since 2013 Turkish economy is under attack and 1 USD has risen to 5,4 TL from 1,8 TL
Turkish currency dropped by 300% since 2013
if not , today Turkey would have $1,8 trillion of GDP Nominal


We Turks kicked American/Israeli *** in Syria ,,, even lapdogs Iran and Saudi Arabia are crying about it ..
cry more cry .... AFRIN city has fallen

and Turkish Army is in Iraq and Syria to block PKK/YPG ,Iran terror corridor

Former Brazil president/PM was corrupt/unpopular if i remember correctly. It wasnt US that removed that last govt.

the US backed FETO terrorists also tried to destroy ERDOGAN by Judicial Coup attempt 17 -25 December 2013
but they failed

you're too broke to lead muslim world independently.

I am saying again since 2013 Turkish economy is under attack and 1 USD has risen to 5,4 TL from 1,8 TL
Turkish currency dropped by 300% since 2013
if not , today Turkey would have $1,8 trillion of GDP Nominal

still Turkey has bigger GDP than Iran+Egypt combined

Turkey also did good "WORK" with US+GCC in letting ISIS terrorrists enter Syria to Fight assad early in the civil war. why not tell the full story of TUrkey's cooperation with NATO?
Pls dont tell half stories, tell the full story. There is alot more NATO/US cooperation with TUrkey than problems.

Turkey 11 time warned Assad for democratic reforms in Syria , but criminal murderer Assad,Iran and Iran backed terrorists groups have started killing Syrians

criminal murderer scums Assad,Iran and Iran backed terrorists groups who killed 600.000+ innocent muslims in Syria with christian Russian helping to protect criminal dictator Assad regime ,, 100 times worse than ISIS

on the other hand Turkey saved over 3,5 million of Syrians from criminal murderer scums Assad,Iran and Iran backed terrorists groups


also Turkish Army entered Syria , took Jarablus,Azez,Dabıq,Rai,Al Bab and Afrin and blocked the US-Israel backed PKK/YPG terror corridor in N.Syria

now Israel,Iran,Saudi Arabia are crying about it ,, pathetic losers





useful lapdog Iran is the biggest enemy to Islamic World , even worse than Israel
Iran created chaos in Iraq,Syria,Lebanon,Yemen and the US so happy with Iran's role in the middle East to milk pathetic slave Saudi Arabia

trade oil with ISIS in SYria

no more your lies and cheap propaganda wont work ,, try harder

Look at how China helped NK's ICBM+ missile program. Did China help Iran THAT much? NO

copycat Iran coppied soviet missile technology via N.Korea , China and Ukraine
Ballistic Missiles from N.Korea
Anti ship Missiles from China
Cruise Missiles from Ukraine
and Iran copied American TOW anti Tank Missile


and FSA kicked ASSAD+Iran+Iran backed terrorist groups , but ROUHANI cried for helping from PUTIN and Russians arrived in Syria to save pathetic ASSAD+Iran+Iran backed terrorist groups

Iran is nothing without Russia and China

Then what are you going to fight with? 600000000 Turkish military projects?LMAO

not like this LMAO

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/turk...ich-only-in-1-8-billion-islamic-world.606857/

 

[Kaniska]

I am not sure if anyone will agree with it or not, but cultural familiarity always dominates over religious one....People might disagree with it...

For example, If an Arab citizen is given with a choice to have a leader between Non-Muslim Arab or Muslim Turkey's leader, most probably he will choose Non-Muslim Arab person....
Guys, here i am referring to Arabs as an example as i felt that they have very strong sense of cultural affibity between themselves...