Turkey Has 'Plans B, C, D' to Replace F-35 With Su-57, J-31 if US Blocks Delivery – Report

[Turan09]

turkey did mistake first they took f35 then buy s500

Sure. So america would have embargo us And stop the spare parts... Turkish f-35's would be junks... really you think you can trick US with this cheap trick?

 

[OldTwilight]

Do you use mirror to look at your butt or your cellphone !?

 

[055_destroyer]

dude, showing up a video is not a fact that Chine produce the engine...
let me ask you this, why Chine is not exporting its jets, but only drones?
simple answer, because of Russian engine, you are not allowed to do it.. sooo simple.
If you insist that a video taken from km away is a fact, you are wasting your breathe, we are not kids here or a chinese section to claim and ban whoever tells the truth..

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/myanmar-air-force-first-jf-17b-twin-seater-spotted.609817/page-2

Self denial is bad for you. Maybe you want to claim JF-17 is a Pakistan jet and Chinese has zero input so it doesn't count as Chinese jet and also don't considered export. The engine for that plane is WS-13 engine and not Russian RD-93 engine. Why? Myanmar airforce operate a fleet of Mig-29 and Russian by approving sales of their RD-93 engine for JF-17 is as good as shooting their own foot to create a competitor.

Why showing video is critical? Becos it show the engine is alive and not just paper spec which many self denial like you will brag about non materialise project as working one. Especially demonstrating in an airshow is even more convincing as many difficult moves are made which will stress the engine and put it to test and not to mention the chances of engine failure if happened in front of a big crowd and yet PLAAF still proceed. It just show the level of reliability and confident of Chinese made engine.

The only one in self denial is you. I don't rule my head by nationalistic sentiment. I judge by facts. The video and links I provided are facts. China is another level above turkey.. No denial.

If export a product is needed to prove it working then by your theory, F-22 raptor is faked since it has never export?

 

[Super Falcon]

Turkey should co develop with reliable muslim partner pak will be better turks already have some good experience in tech and we have hard workers to develop

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Turkey should co develop with reliable muslim partner pak will be better turks already have some good experience in tech and we have hard workers to develop

Are you serious? Turkey hardware is mostly western. Take Milgem corvette for example. Radars and engines and guns and missiles are western.

 

[Kamil_baku]

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/myanmar-air-force-first-jf-17b-twin-seater-spotted.609817/page-2

Self denial is bad for you. Maybe you want to claim JF-17 is a Pakistan jet and Chinese has zero input so it doesn't count as Chinese jet and also don't considered export. The engine for that plane is WS-13 engine and not Russian RD-93 engine. Why? Myanmar airforce operate a fleet of Mig-29 and Russian by approving sales of their RD-93 engine for JF-17 is as good as shooting their own foot to create a competitor.

Why showing video is critical? Becos it show the engine is alive and not just paper spec which many self denial like you will brag about non materialise project as working one. Especially demonstrating in an airshow is even more convincing as many difficult moves are made which will stress the engine and put it to test and not to mention the chances of engine failure if happened in front of a big crowd and yet PLAAF still proceed. It just show the level of reliability and confident of Chinese made engine.

The only one in self denial is you. I don't rule my head by nationalistic sentiment. I judge by facts. The video and links I provided are facts. China is another level above turkey.. No denial.

If export a product is needed to prove it working then by your theory, F-22 raptor is faked since it has never export?

typical nosense troll.. seems like i made your day)

 

[Dai Toruko]

Do you use mirror to look at your butt or your cellphone !?

Stop crying like a girl, S-400 deal is done!

 

[OldTwilight]

Stop crying like a girl, S-400 deal is done!

Well , as an Iranian , I would be benfit from bad relationship between USA and Turkey , but ... Be happy ...

 

[LeGenD]

Neither Su-57 and nor FC-31 is an alternative to F-35, Turkey will have to settle for inferior options.

Russian jets do crash, but not as often as American jets crash. American jets crash a lot more. F-35 crashed multiple times already. Su-35 has never crashed.

Russian jets crash very often, more so then American jets.

Crashes of F-35 are rare actually. In the most recent Japanese incident, pilot's medical condition was the issue.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Russian jets crash very often, more so then American jets.

No Su-35 has ever crashed. F-35 has crashed multiple times.

 

[nahtanbob]

F-35 is modern F-16. Su-57 is modern Su-27. Different size class but overall same tech level.

@pakistanipower @500 @vostok

 

[GriffinsRule]

Actually most of Chinese engine tech is built upon Russian hardware, including all their latest turbofan engines which they still have to perfect. Spending billions on dollars is going to bear fruit eventually but it is still on the backs of what Russians created. There is no shame in it of course but that is the reality.

 

[Philip the Arab]

How can Turkey make a jet engine but China cant? I think the TAI or whoever makes the engines are bluffing about engine manufacturing capabilities. Can anyone give me a reasonable answer?

 

[CAN_TR]

How can Turkey make a jet engine but China cant? I think the TAI or whoever makes the engines are bluffing about engine manufacturing capabilities. Can anyone give me a reasonable answer?

Turkish companies TEI and Kale Aero produces engines since years and also produces for many international companies such as Airbus, Boeing, GE Aviation, Rolls Royce...

 

[Wilhelm II]

turkey did mistake first they took f35 then buy s500

Yea I'm confused f35 have many many high technologies and more better than s400