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Another stupid move by the gov. Seriously these people are so utterly retarded. That move by the spanish was obviously calculated, create diplomatic tensions with the intention of receiving a free pass. Bastards.


The spanish are desperate, no one is helping these clowns yet we tried to be nice to them and shipped some equipment there, the result= they are asking for more. I kept quiet about that move but this is going to far.
 
If we can we should help, and let’s hope our situation doesn’t mirror theirs, but I’m worried.
 
If we can we should help, and let’s hope our situation doesn’t mirror theirs, but I’m worried.

They are desperate, weak and and are not receiving help from anyone not even their fellow euros but thats none of our business, they are part of the EU they glorify so much so let that union handle that problem for them. Yeah I know that they cant do shit and every nation there fucks the shit out of each other right now but still, this is none of our business. We have nothing to do with the Spanish, they have patriots in Turkey which are there to protect Incirlik Airbase, they are not there to protect Turkey so seriously, **** them.

Yes, we should help nations when we can but there are nations which we should help and nations which we shouldnt and NATO and EU nations certainly belong to the Nations which we shouldnt help and luckily duo to our demographic its very unlikely that we will have the same issues as them.
 
They are desperate, weak and and are not receiving help from anyone not even their fellow euros but thats none of our business, they are part of the EU they glorify so much so let that union handle that problem for them. Yeah I know that they cant do shit and every nation there fucks the shit out of each other right now but still, this is none of our business. We have nothing to do with the Spanish, they have patriots in Turkey which are there to protect Incirlik Airbase, they are not there to protect Turkey so seriously, **** them.

Yes, we should help nations when we can but there are nations which we should help and nations which we shouldnt and NATO and EU nations certainly belong to the Nations which we shouldnt help and luckily duo to our demographic its very unlikely that we will have the same issues as them.
Than see it from another perspective there are EU states that helped.(yes we payed them) us developing our defence sector like Italy with t129 and the Spanish ship yes we pay but there are EU states they have such a deep grudge against us they won't even trade with you even if it would give their own ppl work for 10 years

So if we can help than we should do these ppl may help us too in the future
 
Exactly, what goes around comes around. Just think despite of what China is doing to the uighurs we’re still doing business with them. I doubt China can ever reform. Only option would be global free unrestricted internet from a parabola like item directly from space. But that needs to be done.
 
Another stupid move by the gov. Seriously these people are so utterly retarded. That move by the spanish was obviously calculated, create diplomatic tensions with the intention of receiving a free pass. Bastards.


The spanish are desperate, no one is helping these clowns yet we tried to be nice to them and shipped some equipment there, the result= they are asking for more. I kept quiet about that move but this is going to far.
Spainiards proved to be just like other westerners(which was disappointing for me to be honest) I saw what they were saying about turks/Turkey
So the ventilators were turkish (according to spanish foreign minister) they ordered even though there’s export ban yet they created intentional pressure by playing victim unlike italians who were indeed angry at EU(we saw when they removed flags) spaniards viciously attacked only turks/Turkey
I will forgive them because they are in very tough situation but will never forget when they ask once again for help in another crisis-for example possible catalan armed separatism(hope that future turkish government will have the same opinion as me)
 
That’s not going to happend, and I’m sure the Spanish got those on goodwill as well. Bir fincan kahvenin 40yil hatiri vardir.
 
Spainiards proved to be just like other westerners(which was disappointing for me to be honest) I saw what they were saying about turks/Turkey
So the ventilators were turkish (according to spanish foreign minister) they ordered even though there’s export ban yet they created intentional pressure by playing victim unlike italians who were indeed angry at EU(we saw when they removed flags) spaniards viciously attacked only turks/Turkey
I will forgive them because they are in very tough situation but will never forget when they ask once again for help in another crisis-for example possible catalan armed separatism(hope that future turkish government will have the same opinion as me)

Well, they literally created fake news so to they can get some ventilators, what a nasty desperate folks these savages are and obviously the fault lies again with our gov. to give them a free pass "to not harm bileteral ties". Disugsting and weak behaviour from the spaniards, is it now our fault that the europeans are buttfucking them? They have to ask their fellow europeans and not us. And no the Spanish are europeans and like Italians will be against us, we are stupid to help them, we really need stronger institutions, proper think tanks for policy making, u should really be picky with which nations u help and which nations u dont.
 
Well, they literally created fake news so to they can get some ventilators, what a nasty desperate folks these savages are and obviously the fault lies again with our gov. to give them a free pass "to not harm bileteral ties". Disugsting and weak behaviour from the spaniards, is it now our fault that the europeans are buttfucking them? They have to ask their fellow europeans and not us. And no the Spanish are europeans and like Italians will be against us, we are stupid to help them, we really need stronger institutions, proper think tanks for policy making, u should really be picky with which nations u help and which nations u dont.
Your whole defence industry is built on European goodwill, including the Spanish. If Spaniards are savages, than, by comparison, Turks just came down of a tree.
 
Your whole defence industry is built on European goodwill, including the Spanish. If Spaniards are savages, than, by comparison, Turks just came down of a tree.

Our whole defence industry is the result of european/western sanctions u gypsy.
 
Our whole defence industry is the result of european/western sanctions u gypsy.
Your whole technology is based onEuro goodwill champ.Keep crying for German engines or RR goodwill for your future endeavors. Europe always saw a partner in Turkey but got a spat in return.
 
Your whole technology is based onEuro goodwill champ.
Its still not, u have some projects who rely on that but the reality is: The motivation is to have everything indigenous and thats the policy we follow, this is literally a defence forum and the threads are in this section, clown.
Keep crying for German engines or RR goodwill for your future endeavors. Europe always saw a partner in Turkey but got a spat in return.

RR is a British company and the Brits are not in the EU, they have a very different approach to Turkey then EU and there is desire from both sides to bring this relationship further which is why the Brits are also not making us any troubles contrary to EU nations.
 
Free mask distribution is started throughout the country. 5 masks (1 pack) will be sent weekly to everyone who requests. Distributions will take place via epttavm.

As the black market(and price manipulation) and informal exports did not prevent, Mask retail prices approached almost 0.7/1 dollar equivalent Turkish lira. Altough Turkey's mask production capacity much higher than the European average, opportunistic traders threaten public health. Local authorities and relevant institutions of the ministry are still capturing stocked masks.
 
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