Turkey considers Russian Su-57 or Chinese J-31 jets to replace F-35s

[thepakistani]

J35 (latest version of J31) is probably the best option for Turkey and Pakistan as well. Its size and design is good enough to fulfil all basic future requirements. Project Azam and TFX both can use J35 as base platform, which would be better than US flying laptop and probably Su 57 also. Because at this developing stage of J35 a lot customisations and adaptation would be possible

More over local production at Kamra and Turkey would be feasible comfortably. Domestic systems and weaponry could be incorporated

China is doing good in avionics so more capable AESA radar can be demanded

 

[thepakistani]

Probably a good WS 19 engine with TVC is also on horizon for J35, making a very promising scenario

 

[Killuminati]

Man the U.S will collapse of Turkey cancel its order of 100 + F35's...

Hope they are smart enough to prevent such a disaster...

 

[CAN_TR]

Bullshit, the F-35 project will not collpse it will delayed for ~2 years.

Turkey ordered just 30 F-35's,100 in total was planned, the US will Force other countries to buy them.

 

[WarDaddy97]

F35 won’t be delayed even for 2 month. It will proceed smoothly without Turkish contribution. Plans had been drawn in 2018

 

[mike2000 is back]

Man the U.S will collapse of Turkey cancel its order of 100 + F35's...

Hope they are smart enough to prevent such a disaster...

LOL Is this sarcasm or?
Do you even know the number of countries that will be/are flying the F-35, and those that are already lining up to purchase this fighter jet(the only 5th generation fighter jet in mass production/service in the world)?
Unfortunately, Turkey withdrawing from this(or being pushed out by the U.S) wont have a very big impact that western powers cant quickly handle on this program to be honest. You have to know that western powers have decades/almost a century of experience building fighter jets, much less the U.S who is at the forefront of military technology and has a huge mature industrial base with top of the line technology which no country can currently match. So talk of Turkey collapsing U.S program is just laughable to be honest. Turkey brings nothing on the table that the U.S needs, if anything Turkey will be the one benefiting from this project.

 

[WarDaddy97]

LOL Is this sarcasm or?
Do you even know the number of countries that will be/are flying the F-35, and those that are already lining up to purchase this fighter jet(the only 5th generation fighter jet in mass production/service in the world)?
Unfortunately, Turkey withdrawing from this(or being pushed out by the U.S) wont have a very big impact that western powers cant quickly handle on this program to be honest. You have to know that western powers have decades/almost a century of experience building fighter jets, much less the U.S who is at the forefront of military technology and has a huge mature industrial base with top of the line technology which no country can currently match. So talk of Turkey collapsing U.S program is just laughable to be honest. Turkey brings nothing on the table that the U.S needs, if anything Turkey will be the one benefiting from this project.

Bro, users here strongly believe that Turkey will built indigenous fighter jet. They think building fighter jet is like making kebab or slicing shawarma.
Ok forget about F35 or economy, who cares, they don’t realize that USA will ground their entire Air Force by simply refusing to provide spare parts for F16s. And transport planes as well. Turkish military complex depends on western companies if we throw them on sanction list they won’t develop Jack shit. Maybe MPT assault rifle, ammo and cammies.

 

[MKALE1]

Bro, users here strongly believe that Turkey will built indigenous fighter jet. They think building fighter jet is like making kebab or slicing shawarma.
Ok forget about F35 or economy, who cares, they don’t realize that USA will ground their entire Air Force by simply refusing to provide spare parts for F16s. And transport planes as well. Turkish military complex depends on western companies if we throw them on sanction list they won’t develop Jack shit. Maybe MPT assault rifle, ammo and cammies.

Yes we believe in we can handle our indigenous fighter jets in 10 years. During that gap, we can buy other countries' fighters (Russian or Chinese or else), and we have enough F16s during that period. Yes you partially right, Our military complex partially depends on western companies, becuase there was no need to reinvent the wheel. But if we subjected to sanction we have the ability to do them by ownself, and again there will be many alternatives (like china and russia, and some westerns (money talks)) Because our sovereignty is more important than our economy. If we feel our sovergnity under attack, for sure we can also attack american airbases around us. Don't mess with us. Stop to supporting terrorist PYD and PKK, otherwise ready for every scenerio in the west asia.

Bros, this wardaddy97 is really an american? or as our some friends said, he is a pkk-pyd rat here, trolling our forum??

 

[Test7]

Yes we believe in we can handle our indigenous fighter jets in 10 years. During that gap, we can buy other countries' fighters (Russian or Chinese or else), and we have enough F16s during that period. Yes you partially right, Our military complex partially depends on western companies, becuase there was no need to reinvent the wheel. But if we subjected to sanction we have the ability to do them by ownself, and again there will be many alternatives (like china and russia, and some westerns (money talks)) Because our sovereignty is more important than our economy. If we feel our sovergnity is under attack, for sure we can also attack american airbases around us. Don't mess with us. Stop to supporting terrorist PYD and PKK, otherwise ready for every scenerio in the west asia.

Bros, this wardaddy97 is really an american? or as our some friends said, he is a pkk-pyd rat here, trolling our forum??

He is not an american... A terrorist supporter who thinks he's smart. His ban has expired and he will be banned again soon.

 

[Timur]

He is not an american... A terrorist supporter who thinks he's smart. His ban has expired and he will be banned again soon.

oh man I am waiting for some entities more to be banned again.. it takes really long

 

[Test7]

oh man I am waiting for some entities more to be banned again.. it takes really long

When i asked why your all messages are about the Turkey? He had told me that ''because Turkey is a NATO member''

 

[WarDaddy97]

These cowards can’t handle the truth.
You will not built indigenous 5th gen fighter not in 10 years not 30 years. Remember this post.
Your level is turboprop or a small jet for training pilots.
Let me remind you of your “achievements “
Altay MBT-South Korean help
Howitzer-South Korean help
UAV-during good relationship with Israel
Atak helicopter-Italian help
Eurosam-french help

You were not capable to build on your OWN, your designs, your know-how, your own supply chain tank, howitzers, helis and uav and some of you foolishly believe you can built a 5th gen fighter jet
So instead crying to mod like little kids look at the facts. Facts are not in your favor.
In the meantime think about repercussions if we ground your entire AF.

 

[Test7]

This cowards can’t handle the truth.
You will not built indigenous 5th gen fighter not in 10 years not 30 years. Remember this post.
Your level is turboprop or a small jet for training pilots.
Let me remind you of your “achievements “
Altay MBT-South Korean help
Howitzer-South Korean help
UAV-during good relationship with Israel
Atak helicopter-Italian help
Eurosam-french help

You were not capable to build on your OWN, your designs, your know-how, your own supply chain tank, howitzers, helis and uav and some of you foolishly believe you can built a 5th gen fighter jet
So instead crying to mod like little kids look at the facts. Facts are not in your favor.
In the meantime think about repercussions if we ground your entire AF.

Crying here won't bring back your friends who died in afrin.

Master @cabatli_53

 

[aziqbal]

Turkey should drop S400 and take F35

Live and fight some other place and time when you have the advantage

This is not good timing

Turkey needs a good 10 years of indigenising it’s military

Navy is already home made

Army is doing ok with many programmes

Airforce is doing ok but in fighter section needs more time

 

[WarDaddy97]

When i asked why your all messages are about the Turkey? He had told me that ''because Turkey is a NATO member''

And

Crying here won't bring back your friends who died in afrin.

Master @cabatli_53

i give 2 shits about Afrin

Turkey should drop S400 and take F35

Live and fight some other place and time when you have the advantage

This is not good timing

Turkey needs a good 10 years of indigenising it’s military

Navy is already home made

Army is doing ok with many programmes

Airforce is doing ok but in fighter section needs more time

What world are you living?
Navy homemade? Dude, Turks building submarines and some ships with German ThyssenKrupp help. How is it homemade?
Army? I just mentioned list of countries that contributed to Turkish “indigenous “procurement.
I agree with you on F35. By doing so they’ll save their economy and entire AF