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You do not get it.
It is not considered an attack on believers to attack what they believe in.
If you burn a copy of a law, you protest against that law. You do not neccessarily incite violence against those that made the law.
Again, you fail to understand how things work.
No, you do not get it. What othe mesagge is behind is act?

Anyway i see you goverment interfiered and stopped burning of Torah, it means you can stop those acts when you want.
 

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Sweden’s hypocrisy exposed as protest outside Israeli embassy averted


The planned protest, intending to burn a scroll of Torah outside the Israeli embassy in Stockholm, has been called off after the involvement of senior Israeli and Swedish officials.​


Israeli diplomats scrambled and reached out to their counterparts in Sweden, seeking cancellation of the protest, calling it “an act of hate”. (Reuters)

It took a flurry of activity on part of Swedish officials, Israel’s foreign ministry, and its embassy to stop protestors who wanted to burn a Torah scroll in Sweden’s capital Stockholm.

A group of extremists requested a permit from the police, seeking to stage a protest outside the Israeli embassy in Stockholm, where they intended to burn a scroll of Torah, Yeni Safak, an online news portal based in Türkiye, reported.

But the moment the news became known, Israeli diplomats scrambled and reached out to their counterparts in Sweden, seeking cancellation of the protest, calling it “an act of hate”.

Blatant hypocrisy

In clear contrast and in an act that reflected Sweden’s blatant hypocrisy, a far-right racist leader Rasmus Paludan was allowed to burn a copy of the Quran outside the Turkish embassy in Stockholm on January 21.

Türkiye had strongly condemned the act, calling it “vile”, which was done under the protection of Swedish police.

“We condemn in the strongest possible terms the vile attack on our holy book, the Quran, in Sweden today, despite our repeated warnings earlier,” a statement by the Turkish Foreign Ministry said.

“Permitting this anti-Islam act, which targets Muslims and insults our sacred values, under the guise of ‘freedom of expression’ is completely unacceptable. This is an outright hate crime.”

While Swedish Prime Minister Ulf Kristersson called “burning books that are holy to many is a deeply disrespectful act”, he defended “freedom of expression” as “a fundamental part of democracy”.

'Racist hate crime'

However, freedom of expression, even if it led to hurting sentiments of billions of Muslims the world over, was protected for as long as it concerned the burning of the Quran. Despite attempts by Turkish leaders to engage with their Swedish counterparts, Paludan’s planned hateful protest went ahead and no efforts were made to stop the “racist hate crime”.

Whereas, requests by Israeli officials for a similar act received a different reception from authorities in Sweden, exposing their hypocrisy.

“We have been very busy in recent days trying to prevent this hateful event, and are working with the most senior ranks in the Foreign Ministry and the local police. We will continue to work to prevent such a shameful incident,” Ziv Nevo Kulman, Israeli ambassador to Sweden, said in a tweet.

And so the planned protest, intending to burn a scroll of Torah outside the Israeli embassy, was called off after organisers were convinced to withdraw their request for the permit.

The Torah is Judaism’s holy scripture, written with a special ink on a special parchment by a Jewish scribe.

“The individual who was organising the demonstration withdrew his permit application from the police,” Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesperson Lior Havat told JewishPress.com.

An Israeli foreign ministry statement said it, along with its embassy staff in Stockholm, contacted the “top of the Swedish Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Stockholm Police, as well as the Swedish Embassy in Israel” to have the protest halted.

“As a result of our actions, the event at this stage is frozen,” the statement added.

https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/s...protest-outside-israeli-embassy-averted-64927



Sweden is another zionist-dominated entity ruled over by a totalitarian political establishment of Isra"el"-firster nature. And it's actually one of the worst of the lot, despite its bogus reputation for neutrality. Among numerous telltate signs, violent zionist militias like the so-called Jewish Defense League (JDL) which have a history of carrying out terrorist attacks, are particularly active in Sweden under full protection from the Swedish regime.

Indeed the regime in Stockholm is deeply and directly involved in fueling Islamophobia under pretexts such as "freedom of speech", in conformity with the agenda of its zionist and masonic overlords.
 
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Quran Desecration Shows Arrogant Powers’ Enmity with Islam: Leader

  • January, 26, 2023 - 09:34
Quran Desecration Shows Arrogant Powers’ Enmity with Islam: Leader

TEHRAN (Tasnim) – Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Seyed Ali Khamenei denounced recent acts of desecration of the Holy Quran in Europe, saying they signify the arrogant powers’ hostility against Islam.​


“The insane desecration of the Quran, which is committed under the slogan of freedom of speech, shows the arrogant powers’ attacks are aimed at Islam itself and the Quran,” the Leader said in remarks posted on Khamenei.ir’s Twitter account on Wednesday.

“The Quran is shining more brightly every day and the future belongs to Islam despite the Arrogant Powers’ plots. All freedom-seekers of the world should stand by Muslims in confronting the wicked plot of insulting sanctities and spreading hate,” Ayatollah Khamenei added.

On Monday, Dutch politician Edwin Wagensveld, the head of the far-right PEGIDA, tore pages out of the holy book before setting them on fire in front of the parliamentary building in the Hague.

A video posted on his social media accounts showed Wagensveld claiming he received permission from local authorities for “the destruction of the Quran.”

His provocation followed another Islamophobic protest on Saturday in Sweden, where a Danish extremist burned a copy of the holy book in a police-approved demonstration.

The Muslim community worldwide has been outraged since the weekend at anti-Islam activist Rasmus Paludan, who staged his provocative demonstration in front of the Turkish Embassy in Stockholm while delivering a hate-filled speech, and the Swedish authorities who allowed him under the guise of “freedom of expression.”



Iran: Quran burning in Sweden aims to fuel anti-Muslim violence

Right-wing extremist burnt Quran outside Turkish Embassy in Stockholm​

Syed Zafar Mehdi | 21.01.2023

Iran: Quran burning in Sweden aims to fuel anti-Muslim violence



TEHRAN, Iran

Iran on Saturday strongly condemned the burning of the Quran, Islam’s holy book, by a Swedish-Danish right-wing extremist in Sweden, calling it an attempt to stoke hatred and violence against Muslims.

In a statement, Foreign Ministry spokesman Nasser Kanaani said some European countries under the false pretext of advocating freedom of speech "allow extremist and radical elements to spread hatred against Islamic sanctities and values."

Rasmus Paludan, the leader of the Stram Kurs (Hard Line) Party, under the protection of police and with permission from the government, burned a copy of the Quran outside the Turkish Embassy in Stockholm on Saturday.

Kanaani said despite the strong emphasis on human rights in Islam, Europeans continue to "institutionalize anti-Islamism and Islamophobia" in their societies.

He added that the desecration of the Quran is a "clear example of spreading hatred and fueling violence against Muslims", which has "nothing to do with freedom of speech and thought".

The spokesman emphasized that Muslims worldwide expect the Swedish government to "prevent the recurrence" of such incidents and ensure the act doesn't go unpunished.

Paludan, the far-right extremist, has earned notoriety for his anti-Islamic activities.

In April last year, he stirred up a hornet's nest after announcing a "tour" of burning the Quran during the holy month of Ramadan.

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/politics/i...en-aims-to-fuel-anti-muslim-violence/2793921#



Iranian pres. slams burning of Quran in Sweden

By IFP Editorial Staff
January 26, 2023

Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi


Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi has condemned the burning of the Quran in Sweden, saying that insult to Islam, its holy book and the Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him) is an insult to all Abrahamic religions.

President Raisi added that the desecration of the Quran and Islamic sanctities is an affront to humanity.

He rejected Western claims that the defiling of the Quran is about freedom of speech. The Iranian president said such sacrilegious acts are actually a violation of freedom of speech.

Earlier Iran’s leader Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei has said the insane insult to the Quran under the pretext of defending freedom of speech shows that the global arrogance is directly attacking Islam itself and the Quran.

https://ifpnews.com/iranian-pres-slams-burning-quran-sweden/



Iranians protest against continued European desecration of Holy Quran

  • By Al Mayadeen English
  • Source: Agencies
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Tens of thousands of Iranians protested in Tehran and other cities denouncing European governments for allowing the desecration of the Holy Quran.

As a form of protest against the Holy Quran's desecration in Stockholm and Denmark, tens of thousands of Iranians have flocked to the streets in Tehran, as well as other cities.

Following Friday prayers, people throughout Iran demonstrated and chanted slogans decrying the insult to the sacred text.

According to protesters, the horrible crime is a provocation against the sanctities of more than two billion Muslims. Moreover, Iranians demanded that European governments contain the situation and put an end to Islamophobia.

European governments, however, excused this sacrilegious act under the guise of free speech. Rasmus Paludan, the Swedish-Danish Hard Line party leader and renowned Quran-burner, vowed, earlier today, to burn the Quran in front of the Turkish embassy, on the Friday of every week, in a provocative act to pressure Ankara to support Stockholm's bid to join NATO.

Paludan stated "I will proclaim that this is Erdogan's fault. Now that he doesn't want to let Sweden into NATO, I have to teach him about freedom of speech until he does."

https://english.almayadeen.net/news...t-against-continued-european-desecration-of-h



Hezbollah, Mufti Derian, condemn Quran burning in Sweden


Hezbollah denounced the "infamous criminal act" and placed "full responsibility" on Swedish authorities; Sunni Mufti Derian called on the international community to act.

L'Orient Today / 22 January 2023 14:28

Hezbollah, Mufti Derian, condemn Quran burning in Sweden

Swedish-Danish right-wing extremist, Rasmus Paludan, burns a copy of the Quran in Stockholm, Sweden, on Jan. 22, 2023. (Credit: Twitter photo/@ThePollLady)

Muslim leaders in Lebanon on Sunday unanimously condemned the burning of a copy of the Quran on Saturday in Stockholm, Sweden's capital, by Swedish-Danish right-wing extremist Rasmus Paludan.

Hezbollah, an Iran-backed Shiite party, as well as Lebanon's grand mufti, Abdel-Latif Derian, the highest Sunni authority in the country, called on the Swedish and international authorities to punish Paludan's act.

Paludan burned the religious text in the vicinity of the Turkish Embassy in Stockholm, as part of a demonstration authorized by the Swedish police.

Sweden's responsibility

In a statement on Sunday, Hezbollah "condemn[ed] this infamous criminal act against the Islamic faith and the sacred symbols of Islam, and consider[ed] this event to be part of a series of shameful attacks on the Prophet [Muhammad]," Lebanon's state-run National News Agency reported.

The party added that this event constitutes "a serious abuse of the Muslim community around the world, which cannot be silenced."

"We hold the Swedish government fully responsible for this hideous act and call on it to immediately punish those responsible and prevent the repetition of such crimes," Hezbollah added.

For his part, the Jaafarite mufti, Ahmad Kabalan, who is close to Hezbollah, said that Islamic and Arab countries "should not only condemn but also take strong punitive measures against Sweden."

"What they call freedom is nothing more than a curtain of civilized crimes and pyres against everything related to Islam, in this Western scourge, this West from which Hitler came," the mufti added, according to statements relayed by several local media outlets.

'Present draft international laws'

In the same vein, Derian denounced "the tolerance of the Swedish authorities towards the extremist leader Rasmus Paludan."

Derian denounced the "heinous act based on hatred and provocation against all Muslims in the world," calling for "judging anyone who undermines Islam and the Quran and punishing him accordingly," the NNA reported.

In a statement issued on Sunday, he called on international bodies and organizations to "present draft international laws preventing the infringement of God's laws … to prevent this kind of racist behavior that adds hatred between people and nations."

In the afternoon, caretaker Prime Minister Najib Mikati denounced in a short statement published on Twitter "an insolent assault on monotheistic religion and what Islam stands for."

"Such hateful behavior will not achieve its goal of damaging the Islamic faith and its essence," he said.

Swedish Prime Minister Ulf Kristersson on Sunday deplored a "deeply disrespectful act" in the wake of the Quran burning in Stockholm, expressing "sympathy" for believers after several protests in the Muslim world.

Last week, there was outcry in France after cartoons published by the satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo depicting the supreme leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. Hezbollah denounced these drawings and urged "the French government to take strong measures to punish" the newspaper's cartoonists.

https://today.lorientlejour.com/art...i-derian-condemn-quran-burning-in-sweden.html



UN body condemns Quran burning in Sweden

Alliance of Civilizations and several Muslim-majority countries denounce stunt by Danish far-right party leader.

Published on 23 Jan 2023

The high representative of the United Nations Alliance of Civilizations has condemned the burning of the Muslim holy book by a Swedish-Danish far-right politician as a “vile act”.

Rasmus Paludan, leader of the Danish far-right political party Hard Line, carried out the stunt outside the Turkish embassy in Sweden under the protection of local police on Friday.

“While the High Representative stresses the importance of upholding the freedom of expression as a fundamental human right, he also emphasises that the act of Quran-burning, amounts to an expression of hatred towards Muslims,” a spokesperson for Miguel Angel Moratinos said in a statement released on Sunday.

Protesters demonstrate outside the Consulate General of Sweden after Rasmus Paludan, leader of the Danish far-right political party Hard Line, who has Swedish citizenship, burned a copy of the Koran near the Turkish embassy in Stockholm, in Istanbul, Turkey, January 22, 2023. REUTERS/Umit Bektas


A group of people gather outside the Swedish embassy in Ankara over the weekend to protest against the Quran burning [File: Umit Bektas/Reuters]

“It is disrespectful and insulting to the adherents of Islam and should not be conflated with freedom of expression,” the statement added.

Moratinos, who heads a UN agency that describes itself as “devoted to promoting understanding across diverse communities”, said he was concerned about the rise in “discrimination, intolerance and violence … directed against members of many religious and other communities in various parts of the world”.

He called for the building of “mutual respect” and promotion of “inclusive and peaceful societies rooted in human rights and dignity for all”.

‘Racist action’

Shortly after Paludan burned a copy of the Quran, Turkey’s foreign minister, Mevlut Cavusoglu, condemned Swedish authorities for failing to ban the protest.

“It’s a racist action. It’s not about freedom of expression,” he said.

Arab countries – including Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Kuwait – have also denounced the stunt as well as other Muslim-majority countries such as Pakistan and Somalia.

“Allowing this hateful act that insults Islamic sanctities and values is completely unacceptable,” Somalia’s foreign ministry said in a statement on Monday. “It is nothing but a demagogic practice that promotes hatred and racism and serves the agendas of extremism and terrorism.”

In a post on Twitter, Swedish Prime Minister Ulf Kristersson said that while freedom of expression was a fundamental part of democracy, “what is legal is not necessarily appropriate.”

“Burning books that are holy to many is a deeply disrespectful act,” he said.

A group of protesters gathered outside the Swedish embassy in Ankara over the weekend to decry the Quran burning. In Bangladesh, people also demonstrated against the incident.

In April, Paludan’s announcement of a Quran-burning “tour” during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan sparked riots across Sweden.

Source: Al Jazeera and news agencies


 
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What You think is quite obviously not the truth.
A woman working for Sverigedemokraterna, a racist party, was taken off the air in their television channel for making comments in bad taste about Anne Frank.
They were exercising their Freedom of Speech. They gave her other things to do.
Freedom of Speech does not give you right to speak for someone else.

Have some decency and do not use lies to prove your point.


Yes, Hagia Sofia is much, much worse.
Muslims are desperately trying to insult Sweden, for having Freedom of Speech. They burned the Swedish flag in Turkey. It is not the first time that Muslims are insulting people. They expect that Muslims should never be insulted.

The text in the Quran offends many. If Blasphemy laws came into place, I am pretty sure the Quran would be banned for denying the Holy Trinity. That is why we do not have Blasphemy laws any more.

How many Quran's did you burn today? What fetish do you guys have with burning books?
 
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How many Quran's did you burn today? What fetish do you guys have with burning books?

On this too, like on pretty much everything, zionist vassals are displaying double standards.

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Note the source: United States Holocaust Memorial Museum.

 
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No, you do not get it. What othe mesagge is behind is act?

Anyway i see you goverment interfiered and stopped burning of Torah, it means you can stop those acts when you want.
The Quran burning seems to have been incited by Russia,

The government did not interfere. He was told by local Muslim organisations that it was a bad idea. The plan to burn a Bible seems to still be on.

Perhaps he read about the assassination attempts and hundreds of death threats by Muslims on the guy burning the Quran.

Do you always twist the news and produce lies?
 
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Yes, Hagia Sofia is much, much worse.
Muslims are desperately trying to insult Sweden, for having Freedom of Speech. They burned the Swedish flag in Turkey. It is not the first time that Muslims are insulting people. They expect that Muslims should never be insulted.

The text in the Quran offends many. If Blasphemy laws came into place, I am pretty sure the Quran would be banned for denying the Holy Trinity. That is why we do not have Blasphemy laws any more.
How is hagia sofia worse when it belongs to Turkey. It was a mosque for hundreds of years and it is again one.

There is a difference in disagreeing with what the quran says and burning it by showing hatred to muslims. You getting out your violin crying for how muslims are insulting Sweden is ludicrous.
The problems started with sweden and its hypocrisy and double standards. Your authorities showed their true colours when permission was asked to burn the torah infront of the israeli embassy and that was denied. Now you will come up with another lame excuse.

Unlike you I fully condemn anyone trying to burn the torah or any religious text anywhere. As that for me is a sign of hatred not your bumbling nonsense.
 
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It was built as the main Church of the Christian Orthodoxy.
To change it to a Mosque is a mortal insult.



Burning the Quran shows that you loath the text in the Quran. Nothing else.


They guy asked for a permit to hold a demonstration two days before the date of the demonstration. He withdrew the application almost immediately.
If You believe that it is double standard, then show anyone which got approval for a demonstration two days from the application date.

This is what the police says: https://polisen.se/tjanster-tillstand/tillstand-ansok/allman-sammankomst/

”Be out in good time when applying for a permit

Applications for public meetings may often need to be sent for referral (request for comments) to the municipality or other relevant authorities.

In spring and summer, many people apply at the same time and it takes longer to get a response. If your application is received too late, there is a risk that we will not have time to process your case in time and that you will therefore not receive a permit.”


But you still lie about the situation. A Muslim that lies will be punished by Allah, according to the Quran.
Do You fully condemn those Blasphemous Muslims that insult Christianity by denying the Holy Trinity? Or insult Christianity by changing a Church into a Blasphemous instititution?
There is your double standard.

You are free to condemn anyone burning religious texts in Sweden.
You are not free to attack those that burn religious texts in Sweden.
Since Muslims attack such people, they get police protection.
As I thought lame excuses again because you are also a hypocrite. Burning the torah was denied because anti semitism is more fought against in Europe than Islamaphobia rest police didnt have time is a load of crap excuses which I expected from you they would never allow burning of torah. You mentioned that earlier in this thread you got debunked.

Now onto the so called holy trinity fun fact for you it's not mentioned in the bible,that concept come up hundreds of years later by the church. So disagreeing with that is not showing any hatred its called objectivity not the nonsense your coming out with. People are free to criticize the quran muslims dont protest that.

second hagia sofia belongs to Turkey and that was a mosque in ottoman times. The place is being more than respected by being used for prayer go check churches around Europe they are empty. People praying in a mosque is not a sign of hatred do you really find that hard to understand vs burning holy books.
 
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The Quran burning seems to have been incited by Russia,

The government did not interfere. He was told by local Muslim organisations that it was a bad idea. The plan to burn a Bible seems to still be on.

Perhaps he read about the assassination attempts and hundreds of death threats by Muslims on the guy burning the Quran.

Do you always twist the news and produce lies?
One more reason to stop it do not yiu agree?

After all, i have no reason to trust anything said from inconsistan swedish authorities after they bent over from israel pressure.

I do not twist anything, it is all over the place, israel complained, you interviened, that is all yiu need to know.
 
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As I thought lame excuses again because you are also a hypocrite. Burning the torah was denied because anti semitism is more fought against in Europe than Islamaphobia rest police didnt have time is a load of crap excuses which I expected from you they would never allow burning of torah. You mentioned that earlier in this thread you got debunked.
The request to do a demonstration was withdrawn. You have no case.

Now onto the so called holy trinity fun fact for you it's not mentioned in the bible,that concept come up hundreds of years later by the church. So disagreeing with that is not showing any hatred its called objectivity not the nonsense your coming out with. People are free to criticize the quran muslims dont protest that.
It is the core part of the Christian belief.
Muslims protest against this and more.

second hagia sofia belongs to Turkey and that was a mosque in ottoman times. The place is being more than respected by being used for prayer go check churches around Europe they are empty. People praying in a mosque is not a sign of hatred do you really find that hard to understand vs burning holy books.

Hagia Sofia was built by Christians and was a Church before Ottoman times.
It was stolen by the Turks.
It is not up to You to decide what offends Christians.
That is up to the Orthodox Christians, but You apply double standards and excuses.

One more reason to stop it do not yiu agree?

After all, i have no reason to trust anything said from inconsistan swedish authorities after they bent over from israel pressure.

I do not twist anything, it is all over the place, israel complained, you interviened, that is all yiu need to know.
Israel complained, Muslims complained . People started to publish fake pictures showing him burning the Torah (Before it happened) He was called a war monger on social media , so he withdrew the application the day after.
Who knows, he might have received a message from Mossad.
Basically he got the same treatment as the Quran burner. And Muslims like yourself then starts lying about it.

You are free to apply to do a demonstration.
 
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Hagia Sofia was built by Christians and was a Church before Ottoman times.
It was stolen by the Turks.
It is not up to You to decide what offends Christians.
That is up to the Orthodox Christians, but You apply double standards and excuses.
This shows You
I agree 100% here

Typical "I was AFK, my cousin did it"
Loooool

second hagia sofia belongs to Turkey and that was a mosque in ottoman times. The place is being more than respected by being used for prayer go check churches around Europe they are empty. People praying in a mosque is not a sign of hatred do you really find that hard to understand vs burning holy books.
So if a Hindu turns a mosque into a Hindu temple....will you be happy because it is "respected" more than it would have been if it was left empty in a hindu majority part of the country?
 
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In front of the Turkish embassy, far-right party leader rasmus paludan added a new one to his islamophobic and racist actions and set fire to the Quran. I don't want to share the footage, you can find it on the web.

It is unacceptable for the Swedish government to allow this under the name of freedom of thought when such a hate crime and provocation is on the table.

Of course, the Grek paid troll will not tell you this side of the story, but you can show your reaction to the newbie propaganda duo.

Because by completely ignoring this aspect of the incident, it shows that they have a mentality that openly supports the act of burning the Quran.

This scum good-for-nothing white trash Paludan has become way too big for his britches.

He needs an old fashioned slap-'em-silly tar-feathering and mounted-reverse-on-an-a$$ parading around in Sweden.

I am sure that can be arranged.
 
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This scum good-for-nothing white trash Paludan has become way too big for his britches.

He needs an old fashioned slap-'em-silly tar-feathering and mounted-reverse-on-an-a$$ parading around in Sweden.

I am sure that can be arranged.



Feminist?

They are going to build a special "Nagging Battalion" and nag other countries to death?
This racist islamaphobic psychopath is not the problem. The problem is that these highly professional designed hate crimes take place under the protection of the law enforcement agencies of western states and are defended as freedom of thought. When we explain with examples that this is actually only the case in cases of Islam and Islam-related phenomena, and that in other cases the judicial systems of these countries have acted in the opposite direction in similar cases, these people play dumb and try to steer the debate in different directions.

I am not in a position to teach history here, but what I want to say is that we don't deserve this. No faith group or identity in the world deserves this disrespect, but it is especially sad that the Dutch and Danes turn a blind eye to such provocations against Muslims.

I would like to share a small anecdote with you: The Dutch, who today desecrate the Holy Quran, have quickly forgotten that when they rebelled against Spain in 1568, they made a medallion inspired by the crescent moon on the Turkish flag, which they wore on their hats with the inscription "Be a Turk Instead of a Papist".

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We Muslims are not enemies of these societies. But these provocations are very elaborate psychological warfare techniques that serve precisely to antagonize. Finally, the idiot called Paludan, who signed the provocation in Sweden, admitted that he was paid by a journalist.

In other words, the events are not as much about individual freedom of thought as one might think, but about social engineering with microsurgical precision. Our sadness is that the current governments of countries like Sweden and the Netherlands are also complicit in this, or worse, they tend to use these events pragmatically. What they forget is that they are not in control of this situation, and when things get out of control, they will suffer the most.
 
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