Trump wants troops in Afghanistan home by Christmas

[nangyale]

Trump wants troops in Afghanistan home by Christmas
Trump tweet comes hours after his security advisor said Washington will reduce forces in Afghanistan to 2,500 by early 2021
Servet Günerigök | 08.10.2020

WASHINGTON
The US should bring back its troops from Afghanistan before 2020 ends, President Donald Trump said Wednesday.
"We should have the small remaining number of our BRAVE Men and Women serving in Afghanistan home by Christmas!" Trump said on Twitter.
His tweet came hours after National Security Advisor Robert O'Brien said Washington will reduce its forces in Afghanistan to 2,500 by early 2021.
"When President Trump took office, there were over 10,000 American troops in Afghanistan. As of today, there are under 5,000, and that will go to 2,500 by early next year," O'Brien said during public remarks at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas, according to multiple reports.
Trump has repeatedly said he wanted to extricate the US military from the war-torn country.
Landmark talks between Afghan leaders and the Taliban began in Qatar’s capital Doha in September following a US-Taliban deal reached in February to halt offensive attacks against each other's forces in order to allow space for negotiations to take place. The talks are aimed at securing the withdrawal of American forces from the country and ending the conflict.
David Helvey, the Pentagon's deputy assistant secretary for Indo-Pacific Security Affairs, told lawmakers Sept. 22 that the US has reduced its force levels in Afghanistan to 8,600 troops and turned over five bases to Afghan forces.
"We have long maintained that our force presence in Afghanistan is conditions based," he said, noting Trump decided in August to lower the number of US troops to between 4,000 and 5,000 by the end of November.
The US is preparing to withdraw all of its forces by May 2021 "if conditions warrant," Helvey added.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

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[FuturePAF]

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Should help speed up Intra-Afghan Negotiations, which we’re going to stall unless the Kabul regime was forced to take it seriously.

78 Days till Christmas. Tick TocK.

 

[nangyale]

It's going to be a very cold winter in the HindKush this year.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Should help speed up Intra-Afghan Negotiations, which we’re going to stall unless the Kabul regime was forced to take it seriously.

78 Days till Christmas. Tick TocK.

This shield which has been protecting India in Afghansitan needs to be taken out asap. Cant wait for yanks to leave Afghanistan.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

I don't think the Americans are going to leave in a hurry or in the medium to long term.

They'll find some excuse after the elections to prolong their stay especially now that they know who and where the Taliban are exactly.

 

[FuturePAF]

This shield which has been protecting India in Afghansitan needs to be taken out asap. Cant wait for yanks to leave Afghanistan.

Looks like the troop reduction will stop at 4000 still in country at the end of the year. Looks like the new admin will not implement the deal and claim only a conditions based withdrawal ... but still want to keep a residual force for CT. So with Trump out the Feb ‘20 deal may fall apart, unless Trump does something in the next couple of months on his own.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Looks like the troop reduction will stop at 4000 still in country at the end of the year. Looks like the new admin will not implement the deal and claim only a conditions based withdrawal ... but still want to keep a residual force for CT. So with Trump out the Feb ‘20 deal may fall apart, unless Trump does something in the next couple of months on his own.

Firing Asper maybe a sign that Trump will get the troops before Christmas. Who knows Trump just go full on just to rub it in the face of "establishment".

Yes if it got delayed, and Biden got in, then it's back to square one. But even in that case, it will be America which will be seen as breaking it's own signed agreement (just like with Iran) and will face the consequences, militarily in Afghanistan.

 

[FuturePAF]

Firing Asper maybe a sign that Trump will get the troops before Christmas. Who knows Trump just go full on just to rub it in the face of "establishment".

Yes if it got delayed, and Biden got in, then it's back to square one. But even in that case, it will be America which will be seen as breaking it's own signed agreement (just like with Iran) and will face the consequences, militarily in Afghanistan.

Your right. Hopefully all sides stick to the agreement and don’t prolong the misery of Afghan people with more fighting. Biden should reassure all participants that he supports the infra-Afghan talks so the Kabul regime doesn’t get any wrong idea of what will happen after January 20th.

 

[Loki]

Your right. Hopefully all sides stick to the agreement and don’t prolong the misery of Afghan people with more fighting. Biden should reassure all participants that he supports the infra-Afghan talks so the Kabul regime doesn’t get any wrong idea of what will happen after January 20th.

Don't think at the moment Trump give a Fu&# about Afghanistan. He is firing all these people and more by end of this week so in his mind he can direct these agencies or so called establishment to come to his rescue when people will start marching towards white house for his removal. He will not accept any results even after recounts or Court orders which are not in his favor. His Ego is bigger then him or the Republic.

 

[FuturePAF]

Don't think at the moment Trump give a Fu&# about Afghanistan. He is firing all these people and more by end of this week so in his mind he can direct these agencies or so called establishment to come to his rescue when people will start marching towards white house for his removal. He will not accept any results even after recounts or Court orders which are not in his favor. His Ego is bigger then him or the Republic.

Its Not about him anymore it’s about the conflict and what the participants will do with an eye on the incoming administration. Hence the need for reassurance from Biden, that a negotiated settlement through the infra-Afghan dialogue, is what he supports as well.

 

[Bawag]

Trump wants troops in Afghanistan home by Christmas
Trump tweet comes hours after his security advisor said Washington will reduce forces in Afghanistan to 2,500 by early 2021
Servet Günerigök | 08.10.2020

WASHINGTON
The US should bring back its troops from Afghanistan before 2020 ends, President Donald Trump said Wednesday.
"We should have the small remaining number of our BRAVE Men and Women serving in Afghanistan home by Christmas!" Trump said on Twitter.
His tweet came hours after National Security Advisor Robert O'Brien said Washington will reduce its forces in Afghanistan to 2,500 by early 2021.
"When President Trump took office, there were over 10,000 American troops in Afghanistan. As of today, there are under 5,000, and that will go to 2,500 by early next year," O'Brien said during public remarks at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas, according to multiple reports.
Trump has repeatedly said he wanted to extricate the US military from the war-torn country.
Landmark talks between Afghan leaders and the Taliban began in Qatar’s capital Doha in September following a US-Taliban deal reached in February to halt offensive attacks against each other's forces in order to allow space for negotiations to take place. The talks are aimed at securing the withdrawal of American forces from the country and ending the conflict.
David Helvey, the Pentagon's deputy assistant secretary for Indo-Pacific Security Affairs, told lawmakers Sept. 22 that the US has reduced its force levels in Afghanistan to 8,600 troops and turned over five bases to Afghan forces.
"We have long maintained that our force presence in Afghanistan is conditions based," he said, noting Trump decided in August to lower the number of US troops to between 4,000 and 5,000 by the end of November.
The US is preparing to withdraw all of its forces by May 2021 "if conditions warrant," Helvey added.

Highly doubt it that Americans would leave.

With Biden elected, they are staying so buckle-up fellow Pakistanis

 

[khansaheeb]

Should help speed up Intra-Afghan Negotiations, which we’re going to stall unless the Kabul regime was forced to take it seriously.

78 Days till Christmas. Tick TocK.

More like count down to civil war. Only matter a time before the Taliban take over Kabul.

 

[FuturePAF]

More like count down to civil war. Only matter a time before the Taliban take over Kabul.

Part of the reason the early 90’s civil war was so destructive was that the Russians left behind huge Caches of weapons and ammo, which may not be the case now, and could keep any fighting relatively contained.

With more ambiguity, I’m afraid you may be right in so far as a civil war may be imminent. Hence the need for Biden to support the continuation of dialogue visibly and in a public statement, or else all sides will keep on hedging.

with a new civil war, a fresh influx of refugees into Pakistan will be more than a guarantee and the instability that will bring. The population of Afghanistan is now is nearly triple what it was in 1979. We could easily see 5-10 million refugees if the fighting gets really bad. And the world should know that many refugees will try to go to Europe, possibly as many as those that came from Syria in the past decade. This is why a stable negotiated Afghanistan is in everyone’s interest.

 

[khansaheeb]

Part of the reason the early 90’s civil war was so destructive was that the Russians left behind huge Caches of weapons and ammo, which may not be the case now, and could keep any fighting relatively contained.

With more ambiguity, I’m afraid you may be right in so far as a civil war may be imminent. Hence the need for Biden to support the continuation of dialogue visibly and in a public statement, or else all sides will keep on hedging.

with a new civil war, a fresh influx of refugees into Pakistan will be more than a guarantee and the instability that will bring. The population of Afghanistan is now is nearly triple what it was in 1979. We could easily see 5-10 million refugees if the fighting gets really bad. And the world should know that many refugees will try to go to Europe, possibly as many as those that came from Syria in the past decade. This is why a stable negotiated Afghanistan is in everyone’s interest.

Time for Pakistan to settle the civil war once and for all in Afghanistan. We cannot allow this travesty to continue. Peace must prevail for regional stability, even if it means supporting one side or the other. I am sure the US army would have aptly supplied it's friends and allies in Kabul to ensure they continue fighting and one side is not strong enough to end the conflict and civil war. That's exactly what was done in Syria and would have happened in Iraq if the Iranians hadn't stepped in.