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Trump shocked as world leaders LAUGH at him during UN speech

I think the division being caused in the U.S will cause serious lasting damage

Its no longer about right or wrong

Its no longer about holding public figures accountable for their actions and record in office

We are at the point where the morons will celebrate Trump just because he represents the "right" and even if he does something right the other side will attack him

This ideological schism in the U.S could be devastating especially if Trump gets 2020 MAGA
 
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Haraahaharhahahahha...:lol:
While it may take longer than 20 years, it is not beyond the realm of possibility. Things can change pretty fast. And your arrogance, and obliviousness to what is going on around the world is actually hastening the process. So thanks for laughing...
 
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Haraahaharhahahahha...:lol:

Laugh all you like, but as the worlds largest exporter, you need countries to import stuff too. Developing markets are exactly those sorts of places. 30 years ago it wasn't the case, none of these countries had the wealth to buy the goods you made, but today they do. Today people have the choice of buying a Samsung or an iphone and in countries of 300 million plus people - that's a lot of phones. Even if a small percentage of that market can choose to make that decision, it's still a hell of a lot more phones than what you're going to sell in Belgium.

If you're not in those markets, your enemies are. You people waged war to stop the soviets having access to the Arabian sea, but neglected Pakistan afterwards. Today the Chinese have access to those same waters, because you decided to offer sanctions rather than investment. By hook or by crook, they'll keep Pakistan firmly in their camp.

Today Turkey hosts part of the NATO nuclear umbrella, in 20 years time, it'll be too anti American for you to keep them there. In 20 years time i expect the Turks will be planning their own nuclear weapons.

You controlled Iraq's oils under Saddam, that went wrong, you lost Iraq, you fought a war to take it back - you messed up, today you're vying for influence with Iran in Iraq. How long before Iraq starts making independent decisions? Muqtada Al Sadr is suddenly a king maker in Iraq.

Drops of water make an ocean, it's small seemingly irrelevant mistakes that will cause your down fall from empire, to just a large rich country.

I think the division being caused in the U.S will cause serious lasting damage

Its no longer about right or wrong

Its no longer about holding public figures accountable for their actions and record in office

We are at the point where the morons will celebrate Trump just because he represents the "right" and even if he does something right the other side will attack him

This ideological schism in the U.S could be devastating especially if Trump gets 2020 MAGA

Just watch. Nobody is going to vote for Clinton, but the democrats have no alternative who is acceptable to the zionists and their backers, so she will be in power. Nobody (from the centre-ists) in the party is powerful enough in the party to launch a challenge to replace her. This leaves the democrats with Sanders, who is an excellent candidate, but one the zionists and the moneymen won't back. The centre-ist challengers know that as soon as she's lost 2 elections, she'll have to step down, and they'll take their chances against Sanders again. Hence they'll stick with Clinton Vs Trump again, hoping enough people hate Trump to vote Clinton. T

I just don't think it's going to happen. Even if the democrats who didn't vote for Clinton vote for her this time, there is a lot of America who just won't show up and a lot who have bought into the RW hype and vote for Trump. You'll see 2 terms of Trump and the damage that is going to do to the image of America, but more importantly to the social fabric of America.
 
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He is just such a doofus

I repeat

The U.S for 70 years built up a aura

The highpoint of U.S power, Prestige and influence was right after the cold war and the 90's

Since 9/11 after one dumb decision after the other, The U.S has badly effected its own standing and the orange doofus has pushed it off a cliff


The U.S continues to be the worlds largest military and economic power but in a multi polar world its ability to influence states based upon prestige or gravitas alone is coming to an end

Trump for all his loud mouthed clownish buffoonery maybe just what the world needs to get the american monkey off our backs

Come on guy. Trump is a joke. Literally!

You guys think Americans expects anything else when we laugh at our own even worse? Bottom line is this -- we do not care if the world laughs at US and/or at our presidents. Whether it is legitimate or not on what the Trumpster said about his administration is not the point, even we debate that, but the point is that the Dumpster is just another US president in a chain of US presidents, like Raygun, whom the world laughed at but ended up making an impact anyway.

I will accept Trump over actual war criminals and genociders like Obomber and Hillary Kill-in-ton.

At least, Trump spoke peace with DPRK. Or is that another clever tack to de-culearize DPRK and then attack it?? I don't know.
 
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Actually, it is very possible that in the history of the UN, a member was actually laughed at. A member, let alone a sitting member of the Security Council. I will admit that I have not done homework research on this, so I maybe wrong, but right now, it looks like the US may very well be the first UN member to be openly mocked at. Thanks to the Trumpster.

Nevertheless, it is ultimately irrelevant. The most Donald Trump will have is 8 yrs of being president. And everyone at the UN know it is ultimately irrelevant.

It is ultimately irrelevant in the sense and question that if the Trumpster behave 'presidential' would other countries put US interests first? No, each country put its interests first, US interests be damned. Trump maybe clumsy in speech, and often his mouth runs ahead of his head, but have no doubt he is wily like a fox in mind. His ego have been -- not maybe -- bruised. But he is smart enough to know that once he stepped out of the UN building, he answers to the American people and their approval is more important to him than any approval from foreigners. In that, Trump is reflective of American attitude regarding the rest of the world.

Its irrelevant to what American people say, do , think or plan. Domestic politics hardly bother anyone who is not American. If I understand you correctly, you might be working on the presumption that regardless of what world think, American will, will be the deciding factor in geopolitics. That's nonsense. World has moved on. The things are gone to the level, when even so called allies are looking at way on how to circumvent the American led banking system, the real power base of America.

American isolationism will only benefit the world by in large. It should be encouraged by world community.
 
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Haraahaharhahahahha...:lol:
Keeping laughing cowboy...your time is up.

Even EU doesn't trust USA anymore.

The world is learning not to depend on USA anymore or survive without USA.

Russia and China will fill up the realm in the Muslim world for influence as USA loses out.

Look at Syria, even most of the Sunnis who make up the Syrian army support Bashar Al Assad as I have heard.

Gone are the days of regime change. We aren't living in the 50's, 60's, 70's or 80's anymore, where you could oust a person like Mohammad Mossadegh back in the 1950's.

This is 2018. Haha.

The world will be a vastly different place by 2025.
 
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Haraahaharhahahahha...:lol:

I wouldn't be laughing.

The United States is decaying from within.

Its sheer hubris to think the US will be the dominant power forever.

Look at American society at large.

One example is the family unit which is being broken down.

This is gonna have major consequences going forward.

As for Trump specifically, he is responsible for normalizing alot of negative behaviors. i.e. bullying as cliched as that sounds.

Whether in the personal i.e the random youtube videos of white folk displaying overt racism or geopolitical sphere. i.e. Nikki Haley taking names in the UN on the Jerusalem vote (WTF was that all about?)

Either way, IMO Trump will go down as one of the worst presidents in the history of the US and will be responsible for accelerating the decline of the United States.
 
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I wouldn't be laughing.

The United States is decaying from within.

Its sheer hubris to think the US will be the dominant power forever.

Look at American society at large.

One example is the family unit which is being broken down.

This is gonna have major consequences going forward.

As for Trump specifically, he is responsible for normalizing alot of negative behaviors. i.e. bullying as cliched as that sounds.

Whether in the personal i.e the random youtube videos of white folk displaying overt racism or geopolitical sphere. i.e. Nikki Haley taking names in the UN on the Jerusalem vote (WTF was that all about?)

Either way, IMO Trump will go down as one of the worst presidents in the history of the US and will be responsible for accelerating the decline of the United States.
LOL @gambit , he thinks USA will be the preeminent power in the world forever. LOL.

By 2025, The world will be a vastly different place.
 
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I will accept Trump over actual war criminals and genociders like Obomber and Hillary Kill-in-ton.

At least, Trump spoke peace with DPRK. Or is that another clever tack to de-culearize DPRK and then attack it?? I don't know.

Trump, Clinton, Obama, they are all the same thing. Just wearing different masks.

Either way, IMO Trump will go down as one of the worst presidents in the history of the US and will be responsible for accelerating the decline of the United States.

"Accelerating" the decline is exactly right. Donald Trump is just a symptom of something much deeper growing within American society.
 
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He is just such a doofus

I repeat

The U.S for 70 years built up a aura

The highpoint of U.S power, Prestige and influence was right after the cold war and the 90's

Since 9/11 after one dumb decision after the other, The U.S has badly effected its own standing and the orange doofus has pushed it off a cliff


The U.S continues to be the worlds largest military and economic power but in a multi polar world its ability to influence states based upon prestige or gravitas alone is coming to an end

Trump for all his loud mouthed clownish buffoonery maybe just what the world needs to get the american monkey off our backs

The global laugh and mockery at the UNGA meeting was directed at the US regime, rather than the persona of Mr. Trump.

People know that Mr. Trump is an outcome, not the reason.

The reason is the 70 years of hubris called the US foreign policy of destructive intervention, militarization of foreign relations, economic warfare and military destruction.

The laugh and mockery also show that the world has learned not to take the US seriously anymore.

The damage is real and cannot be undone.

So you think Donald Trump is representative of the USA in terms of national character?

Does that mean the whole world is laughing at the USA?

That's what I believe, as well.

I completely and respectfully disagree. I actually know why people think Obama was a pushover, it's because people are comparing him with this circus clown. Obama knew how to play the diplomatic game and just because he didn't withdraw from the Paris Climate Agreement, or call Kim Jung Un "Rocket Man" or denigrate the justice department or anyone who speaks against him on twitter doesn't mean he was a pushover by any means.

Obama was quite dangerous, in fact. Especially after he teamed with Hillary, that was a tough nut to crack.

He was a militarist but a clever one. It is convenient to forget that, under Obama, extrajudicial drone attacks all over the world, including Pakistan, increased dramatically.

He weaponized trade through the TPP.

Luckily, Obama took over after Bush, so, the US actions in the Asia-Pacific were contained more or less.

If he took over after Bill Clinton, that would be more difficult for developing countries to restrain the US. When the US was about to experience another boom cycle in the 1990s, China, for example, had a GDP as big as that of India.

The most important aspect of Mr. Trump is, aside from his undermining the long term health of US economy, his undoing of US moral/soft power advantages.

It takes decades to build an image, so, his efforts of undermining the US soft power are the most significant.

I will accept Trump over actual war criminals and genociders like Obomber and Hillary Kill-in-ton.

Exactly. I guess everybody remembers democratic Hillary laughing at the lynching images of the Libyan leader.

Trump is a blessing disguised under a whiter skin. He needs to get re-elected in 2020.
 
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Trump is a blessing disguised under a whiter skin. He needs to get re-elected in 2020.

Absolutely yes. Trump needs to get a second term, and hopefully by then American society would start to demand another Donald Trump with a different name. Brett Kavanaugh maybe?

As far as I can tell America has always held a high regard for loud, bragging and boastful psychopaths like Donald Trump and Elon Musk. Just compare his demeanor to any other world leader in the UN.
 
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Absolutely yes. Trump needs to get a second term, and hopefully by then American society would start to demand another Donald Trump with a different name. Brett Kavanaugh maybe?

As far as I can tell America has always held a high regard for loud, bragging and boastful psychopaths like Donald Trump and Elon Musk. Just compare his demeanor to any other world leader in the UN.

There has been a general decline in the quality of leadership in the US. Gone are the days when George Kennan could, from Moscow, structure intellectually and geopolitically a whole new Cold War.

Those times were dangerous. It is likely that what saved China (and Russia) from annihilation (other than extreme caution and dexterity by successive Chinese leadership) was nuclear weapons.

Now, the game of diplomacy and power competition is being played on a much more level ground. Yet, fair competition has taken a toll on US politics, leading to the production of low-caliber, populist politicians.

For sure, they took advantage of the under-developed status of the most of the rest of the world and amassed a wealth and strong military machine, but, intellectually, they got dwarfed.

Trump, in my view, is the outcome of such a historical process. The US will never be able to produce the same caliber leadership that developing countries will one after another churn out.

The table is turned over and what is left for the US low-caliber politicians is to revert to the easiest tool for foreign policy: Intimidation through muscle flexing. In this process, everything can be/is used as a weapon: ideas, ideologies, trade, companies, social media, and military.

The US apparent illogicality and irrationality is not a sign of power, but a lack of (or gradual loss of) power.

The decline in politics leads to decline in the rest of public sectors, including economy, producing low-caliber masochists and bragging type con-artists, like Musk. This is what sells there, probably, and supply is being determined by the demand.

The US public demands more Trumps and Musks. They will get it.
 
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Trump, Clinton, Obama, they are all the same thing. Just wearing different masks.

I think @TaiShang said above that Trump has been, at least till now, less dangerous than Obama and Hillary Clinton.

Trump's policy regarding DPRK is unknown till now. Let's wait for a few months.
 
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Trump means good.

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FDI sees first net outflow in 4 years: report

(People's Daily Online) 10:48, September 29, 2018


According to a report published by the Organization for International Investment (OII), the US registered a foreign direct investment (FDI) of negative $8.2 billion in the second quarter of 2018, compared with the previous quarter's net FDI of $63.7 billion, Xinhua reported on Sept. 27.

It was the first negative FDI figure since the second quarter of 2014. The drop in FDI indicates that transnational corporations have suspended potential investment in the US, no doubt due to the tariff policy on imports and other trade policies implemented by the Trump administration.

The report pointed out that FDI has directly driven the American economy forward. Transnational firms have created more than 6.8 million jobs in the US through building factories and running businesses there. They have also boosted technological research and development in the US.

The report said that the US remains an attractive investment destination. However, the global competition for FDI is becoming fierce as more countries race to position themselves as investment destinations.

http://en.people.cn/n3/2018/0929/c90000-9504904.html
 
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