Trump: Saudi king wouldn't last 'two weeks' without US support

[I.R.A]

The Arabs, lets face it, will fight who the Americans allow them to fight. And even then, thee engagement will be extremely limited because of the complicated inter-connected nature of American alliances in the area.

Cheers, Doc

You are mistaken. Lets wait and see. Trump is but one of the presidents, the next one may be bowing again while meeting the monarch.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Bro, I am all ears.

However, I have some solid judgements, and understand Americans a bit better than many here.

This is not the first time US - KSA relations have experienced some friction.

Major hint: 1973 Oil Embargo.

OPEC is at the center of these episodes of friction. US (Obama administration) commenced shale revolution in 2014 to break the monopoly of OPEC in setting the price of oil per barrel, and much of the world celebrated this development. Now, OPEC is making a comeback with certain measures, and US is irked once again.

There is a solid basis to why Muhammad Bin Salman is trying to diversify Saudi economy; KSA is not comfortable with US - OPEC spates, and Salman wants to reduce Saudi reliance on oil to fulfill its needs (Vision 2030).

However, US - KSA relations have withstood the test of time on the whole. And US shielded Saudi Monarchy from internal and external threats from time-to-time.

Donald Trump have the unfortunate habit of creating drama when there is none, to appease his vote base.

But make no mistake: US is a master strategist and incredibly powerful. Expect major surprises from it at the right time.

Learn from this post: https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/fran...-bomb-attack-near-paris.579964/#post-10831302

They understand what to do, whom to send a message, and how to tackle potential threats. They have various Think Tanks, military professionals and economists working under them.

On a lighter note, Husband and Wife fight at times. And makeout at times.

Scores of members overreading this crap.

@BHarwana
@Peaceful Civilian

Mate you take your Americans friends too seriously. The cowboys can shout all they want, world has changed.

Its all about timings. These threats start to come right after IK visit to SA.

During Obama days, SA-American relationship were at lowest. They treated him with no respect when he come to visit them. On the other hand, not long ago, Trump was doing that sword dance with them. Saudis think they got Kushner in their pocket! And now out of sudden, Trump is directly pointing to king in a very disrespectful way.

Few days ago, with all due respect, you were boosting as to how Trump tweet reduced the oil prices, well I got news for you, its gone past 80$ and touching 84$ as we speak. This is the last three month trend:

Its not like it has seen a sudden price increase, it was hovering around 80$. So how come suddenly Trump start to blow his gaskit over this?

In my opinion its just a pretext to pressurise the Saudis, not to get into any deal with China, specially if it hit their dollar. Hence I pointed out the IK visit.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

Let's make oil prices $300

 

[Big Tank]

U.S.A has to face Pakistan before attacking Saudi Arabia. We can provide nuclear weapons to Saudis if U.S.A goes against Saudi Arabia . Try it U.S.A.
U.S.A has no other option to keep good relation with K.S.A.
Going against Saudi Arabia will badly hurt America interest.
This is our official policy to protect Saudi Arabia not joke.
So this is in the Interest of uncle SAM for peaceful relation with Saudi Arabia .

You think we can stand against them Militarily,, are you for real? We've got about 120 Nukes and even if you let Saudis have all of them (which you can't even transfer a single one keeping US Surveillance network in mind). US has more than 1.5k Nukes along with ABMs (Anti Ballistic Missile) systems. You or Saudis can't do shit to them. Your economy is based on dollars, if you're once sanctioned, you're all gone where your economy is already under heavy debt.. Get back to the real life mate.

 

[Riz]

that's pathetic...

Nothing pathetic here.. He is stupid because he dont want to lie.. Try to understand him he said if we are master then we should behave like master

 

[Big Tank]

And Trump must be shivering in his boots after getting to know that, right?

Lol.. You just made it bro. People here are acting like if they can militarily tackle US.

 

[Riz]

USA cannot hurt Saudis if USA and Trump tries any such misadventure USA will face Pakistan as prime minister of Pakistan already stated that Pakistan will protect Saudis.

Ok then tell us how would pakistan going to protect Saudis without patriot ABM system?

 

[manga]

USA cannot hurt Saudis if USA and Trump tries any such misadventure USA will face Pakistan as prime minister of Pakistan already stated that Pakistan will protect Saudis.

Is this supposed to be funny ?

 

[Big Tank]

Ok then tell us how would pakistan going to protect Saudis without patriot ABM system?

We're only going to secure Makkah and Madinah for our religious interests and not only us by Iran and Turkey will be doing this too. Every Muslim can die for this but we're not going to care shit for Wahabi family.

 

[Fawadqasim1]

You think we can stand against them Militarily,, are you for real? We've got about 120 Nukes and even if you let Saudis have all of them (which you can't even transfer a single one keeping US Surveillance network in mind). US has more than 1.5k Nukes along with ABMs (Anti Ballistic Missile) systems. You or Saudis can't do shit to them. Your economy is based on dollars, if you're once sanctioned, you're all gone where your economy is already under heavy debt.. Get back to the real life mate.

We cannot transfer nukes absolutely true.

We cannot physically fight USA true.
We don't want to destroy our relations with us true.
What we can do is to protect king and the crown prince
from assassination.

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

You think we can stand against them Militarily,, are you for real? We've got about 120 Nukes and even if you let Saudis have all of them (which you can't even transfer a single one keeping US Surveillance network in mind). US has more than 1.5k Nukes along with ABMs (Anti Ballistic Missile) systems. You or Saudis can't do shit to them. Your economy is based on dollars, if you're once sanctioned, you're all gone where your economy is already under heavy debt.. Get back to the real life mate.

Even Russian can’t stand against U.S.A, but it’s our official policy to protect SAUDI ARABIA. We can make big dents on U.S.A if they attack on Saudi Arabia, So much dents in U.S.A interest , their lives , their economy, Which will help Russia and China for global power.
Of course it includes supply of nuclear weapons, missiles to Saudi Arabia Etc

 

[Big Tank]

We cannot transfer nukes absolutely true.

We cannot physically fight USA true.
We don't want to destroy our relations with us true.
What we can do is to protect king and the crown prince
from assassination.

We can't do that and there is no point to do that. They can be assassinated within seconds by their own National Guard upon US Orders..CIA is present in every blood cell of Saudis since years. THEY'VE the strongest network in Saudi Arabia. More than they've in their own country. Once Riyadh is invaded or destroyed, there's no point to save the King. And before you reach, they'll be all gone. Remember King Faisal??

Even Russian can’t stand against U.S.A, but it’s our official policy to protect SAUDI ARABIA. We can make big dents on U.S.A if they attack on Saudi Arabia, So much dents in U.S.A interest , their lives , their economy , Which will help Russia and China for global power.

Ahh.. You can kill a couple of Marines and it's gonna be a big dent right? Before yiu transfer your military machinery in SA. US already got 2 division of the Army there armed with Missiles, Humvees, Tanks and Grenadiers.. They won't even let you touch the cost, tactically

 

[manga]

Allah Almighty protects Mecca. Nobody else needed.

Pakistan is unlikely to commit suicide for KSA; Pakistan will stick to protection of Mecca and Medina at most, much like in the past.

Yemen have subjected KSA to so many strikes with ballistic missiles and rockets since 2015. Did anybody stop Yemen?

Some members into chest-thumping mostly.

US and KSA are allies - they will sort out their problems themselves.

Muhammad Bin Salman have both internal enemies (due to anti-corruption drive) and an external (Iran).

Only logical post in thread.

Also i wonder if this subtle reminder have something to do with supposed saudi money coming to pakistan for projects which US might not want to happen.

 

[padamchen]

Only logical post in thread.

Also i wonder if this subtle reminder have something to do with supposed saudi money coming to pakistan for projects which US might not want to happen.

The Chinese do not want the Arabs there either.

Cheers, Doc

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

Ahh.. You can kill a couple of Marines and it's gonna be a big dent right? Before yiu transfer your military machinery in SA. US already got 2 division of the Army there armed with Missiles, Humvees, Tanks and Grenadiers.. They won't even let you touch the cost, tactically

As I said we mill make so much dents in U.S.A interest , their lives , their economy, Which will help Russia and China for global power.
Of course it includes supply of nuclear weapons, missiles to Saudi Arabia Etc
Such uncertainty We will make sure oil price to increase twice or thrice times. We will make their life hell if they attack Saudi Arabia. We will gather much Muslim support due to emotional attachment with religion, and we know how to capitalize it as we used Mujahideen in Afghan soveit war as tissue paper but work done to break soveit union.Job done!