Trump ponders crackdown on Pakistan over terror ties despite experts' warnings

[UKBengali]

In order for ANY nation to play a major global role, that nation will needs to be a an indigenous pioneer, inventor, creator and producer of Advanced Sciences, Technologies and Military equipment. india is not despite having a population of over 1.3 billion. The White and the Far Eastern nations who's people have an average IQ of over 100 as opposed to India's 82-84 are far superior and will have a greater global influence and role than india could possibly ever have. It also explains why the Chinese are more advanced, productive, powerful and superior to indians despite having similar population numbers.

Sorry to have to disagree here. There is little evidence that there is any major IQ difference between Whites, S and E Asians.

India is behind China simply because it is a multi-ethnic entity and not a real nation state like China that has 90% Han dominant ethniity. When a country like India is spending all it's time trying to hold it's many people's together economic development will naturally take a back seat.

 

[The Accountant]

USA is here to stay in the region .

Personally I think its a grand idea and situation.

Pakistan and a Taliban led Afghanistan is a nightmare scenario for Both India & THE WESTERN world.

We have Islamic lunatics killing civillians all over Europe in the name of ISIS and the last the world needs is regrowth of Taliban.

AND IN THE MIDDLE of it ALL.............. PAKISTAN and its military led total brainwashed mindset of INDIA AND KASHMIR and stopping INDIAN perceived hegomoney

ITS A MESS

Why it has any effect to india ? India do not even share border with afghanistan ...

By the way like it or not america cannot stay longer in afghanistan and current gov for sure will be no more once us is gone ...

 

[wiseone2]

No they don't and you have no idea what you are going on about now, sorry. The two differ massively on Minhaj and Aqeedah.
So Kunduz is close to to the Pakistan border is it? Kabul as well? Do you realise the level of assaults that have been aimed at these areas. I just gave you evidence for this and now you're talking about attacks in the Southern regions. I'm talking about the rise and established presence of the Taliban in Northern Afghanistan, with even ISIS making inroads, a region you mentioned in an earlier post that the Taliban had no writ in.....
As for high Paktun birth rates here is a reference;

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=hT9ZBwAAQBAJ&pg=PA82&lpg=PA82&dq=pashtun+birth+rates+afghanistan&source=bl&ots=jlDPtf3_yY&sig=raoCaK2uImKnusvUbPl-iGjf8uE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiSmrWAteHUAhWRfFAKHfTNBS4Q6AEIhwEwEg#v=onepage&q=pashtun birth rates afghanistan&f=false

High Pakhtun birth rates and migration had led to past conflicts with Uzbeks. Although there is no kept data for this, a look at Afghan families here in the West and in Afghanistan can reveal that Pakthun families are larger.

Read the book link. Nowhere does it say Pakthun have a higher birth rate than Uzbeks.
Fertility is a function of culture, literacy and economic well being. There is not much difference between any of the Afghan ethnic groups.

Kabul has sizeable Pakthun population. It is the capital. It makes a good target. Most of the attacks in Kabul are hit and run attacks or bombings. When has the Taliban launched a real attack to hold ground in Kabul.

If the Taliban is so strong they can run a government in Southern Afghanistan. All rebel movements with a real political goal do

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Sorry to have to disagree here. There is little evidence that there is any major IQ difference between Whites, S and E Asians.

India is behind China simply because it is a multi-ethnic entity and not a real nation state like China that has 90% Han dominant ethniity. When a country like India is spending all it's time trying to hold it's many people's together economic development will naturally take a back seat.

Here's the global IQ scores. Look at each nations score then think about their position in the world today, their history, culture and civilisation:

https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country#

 

[Nilgiri]

Remember to read this (and preferably the whole thread) before you accept specific (and often very flawed by simply their methodology/sampling bias even) IQ "studies" as verbatim truth:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/a-co...aylor-on-race-in-america.477641/#post-9200325

 

[jetray]

f the Taliban is so strong they can run a government in Southern Afghanistan. All rebel movements with a real political goal do

All that taliban has is a psuedo statement saying that america should leave, which looks more or less tutored by a neighboring country. Whether it is LTTE or Hamas , they govern the region they hold but all that taliban does is indulge in plain brutal violence.

 

[UKBengali]

Here's the global IQ scores. Look at each nations score then think about their position in the world today, their history, culture and civilisation:

https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country#

Look at where Arabs used to be in the past and their supposed IQ.

Whites, S Asians and E Asians have almost exactly the same IQs. You know this as when you put them on a level playing field they are around the same(UK is a good example)

 

[Nilgiri]

Look at where Arabs used to be in the past and their supposed IQ.

Whites, S Asians and E Asians have almost exactly the same IQs. You know this as when you put them on a level playing field they are around the same(UK is a good example)

He hasn't even acquainted himself (but then again 99% of people that quote it havent either, so I don't really blame him for that) with the exact sampling methodology used by the source study (Lynn, Vanhanen et al. "IQ and the Wealth of Nations")....specifically the sampling strategy used and the n/N effects (I doubt he even knows what n/N is or its basic significance) talked about (among other flaws past the sampling itself) by peer reviewers like Thomas Volken ("A Critique of Richard Lynn and Tatu Vanhanen's Recent Book").

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Look at where Arabs used to be in the past and their supposed IQ.

Whites, S Asians and E Asians have almost exactly the same IQs. You know this as when you put them on a level playing field they are around the same(UK is a good example)

Level playing field??????.........another liberal left wing excuse for the failings of ethnic minorities. The White and Eastern Asian races are indigenously inventing, creating and pioneering EVERYTHING. Everyone else is just copying/using their expertise. That is a fact whether anyone likes it or not.


Apart from lauding over from oil wealth, killing eachother and becoming grotesquely obese, I don't see anything else significant the Arabs are doing.

 

[LeGenD]

Read the book link. Nowhere does it say Pakthun have a higher birth rate than Uzbeks.
Fertility is a function of culture, literacy and economic well being. There is not much difference between any of the Afghan ethnic groups.

Kabul has sizeable Pakthun population. It is the capital. It makes a good target. Most of the attacks in Kabul are hit and run attacks or bombings. When has the Taliban launched a real attack to hold ground in Kabul.

If the Taliban is so strong they can run a government in Southern Afghanistan. All rebel movements with a real political goal do

Well, this is the situation: http://www.firstpost.com/world/tali...nal-rifts-say-political-analysts-3747829.html

I believe that Taliban is not in good shape in-spite of its recent advances. However, ANA is hardly a capable force on the other hand (or) preoccupied with ISIS-K.

US have not taken much action against Taliban since 2014 but this might change under Trump administration.

US is a military juggernaut and with no equal in firepower and capabilities. However, conflict in Afghanistan does not seems to have an end.

As powerful as US is - factors such as economics, public opinion and politics eventually come into play for even a superpower state in the battlefield.

Sir @waz raised an excellent point - Taliban doesn't stands a chance against American Army in the battlefield but it has time on its side and endured so far. How long US will stay - is the question.

IMO, Trump administration is making a brilliant move by empowering American generals in Afghanistan. This might be the key towards achieving a breakthrough against Taliban but it will take time to materialize. Perhaps by the end of this year or next.

Let us see what happens.

 

[wiseone2]

Well, this is the situation: http://www.firstpost.com/world/tali...nal-rifts-say-political-analysts-3747829.html

I believe that Taliban is not in good shape in-spite of its recent advances. However, ANA is hardly a capable force on the other hand (or) preoccupied with ISIS-K.

US have not taken much action against Taliban since 2014 but this might change under Trump administration.

US is a military juggernaut and with no equal in firepower and capabilities. However, conflict in Afghanistan does not seems to have an end.

As powerful as US is - factors such as economics, public opinion and politics eventually come into play for even a superpower state in the battlefield.

Sir @waz raised an excellent point - Taliban doesn't stands a chance against American Army in the battlefield but it has time on its side. How long US will stay - is the question.

IMO, Trump administration is making a brilliant move by empowering American generals in Afghanistan. This might be the key towards achieving a breakthrough against Taliban but it will take time to materialize. Perhaps by the end of this year or next.

Let us see what happens.

what you say is true. USA does not have infinite staying power. Unless USA cannot go after the Taliban in sanctuaries in Pakistan they will never win the war in Afghanistan.

 

[LeGenD]

what you say is true. USA does not have infinite staying power. Unless USA cannot go after the Taliban in sanctuaries in Pakistan they will never win the war in Afghanistan.

Taliban does not have a strong presence in Pakistan anymore. Seriously, I don't get the Haqqani boogeyman.

CIA has killed so many notable militants and terrorists inside Pakistan since 2001 and Pakistan Army have also cleared much of Waziristan and other regions from militants since 2001 - and still the Haqqani boogeyman?

 

[wiseone2]

Taliban does not have a strong presence in Pakistan anymore. Seriously, I don't get the Haqqani boogeyman.

US has killed so many notable militants and terrorists inside Pakistan since 2001 and Pakistan Army have close cleared much of Waziristan and other regions from militants since 2001 - and still the Haqqani boogeyman?

I will take your word for it. I do not know if the Afghan government shares the same views

 

[LeGenD]

I will take your word for it. I do not know if the Afghan government shares the same views

Unfortunately, it does not.

Afghan government needs a powerful army of its own to tackle militant forces operating inside Afghanistan but how will this be possible? US will have to do heavy lifting for it once again it seems.

It was not easy for even Pakistan Army to achieve a breakthrough against militant forces inside Pakistan - American assistance notwithstanding.

I still think that this war is winnable but now it comes down to Trump administration.

 

[Eminent Mainstream Media]

Pakistan is the US' exit strategy from Afghanistan and ironically it can be used both ways.

1. The US can blame the matter on Pakistan. Slap some sanctions, attack some border positions, declare victory and move out, leaving Afghanistan to burn as it always has. Basically make Pakistan the Laos to their new Vietnam, Afghanistan.

2. Alternatively, they can stop trying to fight an unconventional war through conventional means and listen to Pakistan when it says that the Kabul Govt and the Taliban should be allowed to sit on the negotiating table as equals. After a decade and a half, they've already co-opted the Butcher of Kabul, its a consolation prize considering Pakistan was offering them the chance to bring the Afghan Taliban to the table under Mullah Mansoor. The US opted to pursue tactical objectives over strategic ones and Afghanistan became the hot mess that it is now. Furthermore, Pakistan lost its ability to convince the Taliban to agree to talks.
Their best bet now is to listen to need of the times and step back to allow the Quadrilateral Process to try and find a peaceful solution to the problem. The US has tried plenty of troop surges, the US can never win this war because they can never fight this war as locals.

Can Pakistan afford another Mujahideen surge on Its Western Borders ? How supportive would be China and Russia on this- Given Central Asian countries and Xinjiang are majority Muslim-

US doesn't want to control all of Afghanistan, Its aim was never that- I can tell you about a small encounter of a very senior American Politician with the then Foreign Minister of India Jaswant Sigh- Jaswant Singh said that Americans have come in Afghanistan and they are going nowhere for 50 years- to this the American Politician only smiled- And this is exactly where the role of Russia and China comes in- They are on a thin line how far they can go remains to be seen- CIA is the master at this game- Russians are nowhere close to the golden KGB era, and the less said about the Chinese the better-