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That is the reason Uncle Ho and Mao is a great man.

The difference between China and west is the west is controlled by Oligarch while politicians are mainly puppets. The CCP has power to command the capitalist.
Money rules the world. Ccp knows it. It is a capitalist party under a socialist cloak. Chinese are never socialists. 99 percent are capitalists.Much like the Vietnamese but the percentage is lower. If Mao and Ho were in power, the 1979 war didn’t happen.
 
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Money rules the world. Ccp knows it. It is a capitalist party under a socialist cloak. Chinese are never socialists. 99 percent are capitalists.Much like the Vietnamese but the percentage is lower. If Mao and Ho were in power, the 1979 war didn’t happen.

In some ways, you are right. The difference who is more likely to distribute wealth? CCP or USA oligarch?

We wait and see.
 
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In some ways, you are right. The difference who is more likely to distribute wealth? CCP or USA oligarch?

We wait and see.
Mr. VV is a seer, His advantage is accurate prediction of the future, so, history is of no use to him.
 
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In some ways, you are right. The difference who is more likely to distribute wealth? CCP or USA oligarch?

We wait and see.
One pct controls 30pct of all wealth while half of population have nothing. That rule applies everywhere be in America, Germany or China.it is a mistake thinking Ccp would make China an exception. It’s actually not necessarily bad. Every society needs inequality. If everyone is rich, nobody works. No factories no manufacturing no progress. Look at the rich oil societies Saudi Arabia, Katar, UAE,etc.. the only people that work are cheap imported labor from foreign countries.

Even your country. Thailand is one of the most perverted countries in the world.your King is the most richest man. How perverse. Pls don’t tell me he works hard :woot:
 
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US can rejoin TPP and buy products from TPP nations while CN still will die as US want:cool:

But the numbers does not add up.

First, even the largest of ASEAN countries, Indonesia and Vietnam do not have enough skill manufacturing workers to make a different. A single province in China GuangDong has more skill manufacturing workers than Indonesia and Vietnam combine.

Second is the infrastructure. No need to discuss here. China wins hands down.

Third. The supply chain. All are in China. If you locate abroad, you still need to import the pieces and parts from China. Big disadvantage.

Fourth. China also have the worlds second largest and growing domestic consumption market. You will lose out on this market if you relocate abroad.

Fifth, relocating to ASEAN will not make a dent in the US trade deficit. It will only transfer it to another country. Maybe even increase it due to the cost of relocating.

I am not an economist, I may be wrong, but I will put my bet on China.

I work in manufacturing and involve in transferring products between sites. Without skill workers with experience in transferring, "On time delivery" and Quality will be badly affected and accidents WILL occur. Even in the best of situation, thing WILL go wrong during transfers.
 
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One pct controls 30pct of all wealth while half of population have nothing. That rule applies everywhere be in America, Germany or China.it is a mistake thinking Ccp would make China an exception. It’s actually not necessarily bad. Every society needs inequality. If everyone is rich, nobody works. No factories no manufacturing no progress. Look at the rich oil societies Saudi Arabia, Katar, UAE,etc.. the only people that work are cheap imported labor from foreign countries.

Even your country. Thailand is one of the most perverted countries in the world.your King is the most richest man. How perverse. Pls don’t tell me he works hard :woot:

The capitalist mode of production, is more advance until productivity rises, and then society will move in socialist mode.

Capitalism cannot solve a problem, the wealth concentration that you so much justify, impoverished the consumer spending.

You have no consumer, elites have no money.

This is not a problem under socialism.
 
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But the numbers does not add up.

First, even the largest of ASEAN countries, Indonesia and Vietnam do not have enough skill manufacturing workers to make a different. A single province in China GuangDong has more skill manufacturing workers than Indonesia and Vietnam combine.

Second is the infrastructure. No need to discuss here. China wins hands down.

Third. The supply chain. All are in China. If you locate abroad, you still need to import the pieces and parts from China. Big disadvantage.

Fourth. China also have the worlds second largest and growing domestic consumption market. You will lose out on this market if you relocate abroad.

Fifth, relocating to ASEAN will not make a dent in the US trade deficit. It will only transfer it to another country. Maybe even increase it due to the cost of relocating.

I am not an economist, I may be wrong, but I will put my bet on China.

I work in manufacturing and involve in transferring products between sites. Without skill workers with experience in transferring, "On time delivery" and Quality will be badly affected and accidents WILL occur. Even in the best of situation, thing WILL go wrong during transfers.
First: ID is not allowed to join TPP due to money manipulation. VN is the main manufacturing nation for TPP. if VN lack of skill worker, then we can get training from JP-US and other TPP nations ( before 1979 CN also didnt have skill workers and JP-US had to train Cnese) or we can simply hire oversea skill workers.

second: CN infrastructure was almos Zero in 1979 too. its JP-US help CN again. VN infra now is far better than Cnese one in 1979.

third four same second: thats all came from JP-UD's help after Deng lick US Jap's azz so hard in 1978. remember: CN GDP was merely 300usd/year and Cnese peasants had to eat insect to survive in 1979.

fifth: I told u guys already.Many Amerians actually are White's slave ( read US history) so why the White must care if their slave get good life or not??Just re join TPP and get money and CN will die as they want.
 
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There is No hope for a country that even Pigs also can not survive (serious pig disease in CN now) due to foreigners happilly dumping too much toxic waste to her lands, her water :laugh:
China is the world's largest producer of pork:-)
You are a fool.
 
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The capitalist mode of production, is more advance until productivity rises, and then society will move in socialist mode.

Capitalism cannot solve a problem, the wealth concentration that you so much justify, impoverished the consumer spending.

You have no consumer, elites have no money.

This is not a problem under socialism.
you want to embrace socialism? Ok move to the West! Not to country as oil rich Venezuela that dreams of socialism but can’t produce anything not even toilet paper with mass of population living in absolute poverty.

Here in Germany, if you are jobless with no money no future, you get an apartment from the government for free. In addition to free money free healthcare free food.

That is socialism.

Ok the Angela Merkel government sucks 50 Cent from 1 Euro my hard earned money that is another story :(
 
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you want to embrace socialism? Ok move to the West! Not to country as oil rich Venezuela that dreams of socialism but can’t produce anything not even toilet paper with mass of population living in absolute poverty. Here in Germany, if you are jobless with no money no future, you get an apartment from the government for free. In addition to free money free healthcare free food.

That is socialism.

The future of socialism is in China, not white man land.

Germany style socialism is approaching bankruptcy as decent tax payer bankroll junkee, gangster, slut, polygamy practioneer, Islamofascist into mass breeding mode.

A few decades later, Germany will be taken over by scion who are society garbage.
 
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China is the world's largest producer of pork:-)
You are a fool.
even Pigs cant live in CN due to toxic & polluted air, land, water. guys like u r much fooller

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A deadly pig disease raging in China is bound to spread to other Asian countries, experts warn

By Dennis NormileSep. 10, 2018 , 2:50 PM

SHANGHAI, CHINA—African swine fever (ASF), a deadly virus in pigs and wild boar, continues to spread in China and will almost certainly wreak havoc in other countries in Asia soon. That's the somber conclusion from a meeting of animal health experts organized by the United Nations's Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) in Bangkok late last week. "It's no longer ‘if’ [spread beyond China] will happen but when, and what we can do collaboratively to prevent and minimize the damage,” FAO Chief Veterinary Officer Juan Lubroth said in a statement issued on Friday, at the end of the 3-day meeting. Veterinary authorities from 12 countries agreed to form a new network to share information and work jointly to control the spread of the disease.

The virus that causes ASF doesn't infect humans, but the most virulent strains are nearly universally fatal for pigs. There is no vaccine and no cure, so controlling the spread of the disease requires destroying all animals on infected farms. The appearance of the virus in China in August—and its inevitable spread—threatens devastating economic losses for farmers and shortages of a vital source of protein for citizens of developing countries, particularly in East and Southeast Asia.

China's agriculture ministry reported a new outbreak while the Bangkok meeting was in progress; the virus has now been found at 18 farms or slaughterhouses in six provinces, according to FAO. The outbreak sites are widely dispersed, indicating that shipments of pork products are spreading the disease; live animals aren't usually shipped over such long distances.

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The virus is on the move in Eurasia and Eastern Europe as well. Bulgaria reported its first outbreak to the World Organisation for Animal Health in Paris on 31 August; the virus has also been found in Georgia, Russia, Poland, the Czech Republic, Romania, and Moldova. In Europe, the virus is appearing primarily in backyard pens and its spread likely involves wild boars. (The disease can also be transmitted by ticks.) In China, so far, the virus has appeared at larger commercial operations. If it spreads to traditional farms, it might also jump to wild boars and become endemic in the countryside, says François Roger, an animal epidemiologist at the Agricultural Research Center for International Development in Montpellier, France. The precise risk is unclear as little is known about wild boar populations in China.

In an unrelated development, another pig disease has resurfaced in Japan, where the agriculture ministry has confirmed the country's first outbreak of classical swine fever in 26 years, on a farm in Gifu prefecture in central Japan. Although they have similar names, the viruses carrying ASF and classical swine fever are unrelated. The highly virulent ASF can kill entire herds, whereas the classical swine fever virus is less virulent and less dangerous for older pigs than for piglets; it can also be prevented using vaccines. After a campaign to eliminate the virus, Japan was declared free of classical swine fever in 2007.
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018...und-spread-other-asian-countries-experts-warn
 
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But the numbers does not add up.

First, even the largest of ASEAN countries, Indonesia and Vietnam do not have enough skill manufacturing workers to make a different. A single province in China GuangDong has more skill manufacturing workers than Indonesia and Vietnam combine.

Second is the infrastructure. No need to discuss here. China wins hands down.

Third. The supply chain. All are in China. If you locate abroad, you still need to import the pieces and parts from China. Big disadvantage.

Fourth. China also have the worlds second largest and growing domestic consumption market. You will lose out on this market if you relocate abroad.

Fifth, relocating to ASEAN will not make a dent in the US trade deficit. It will only transfer it to another country. Maybe even increase it due to the cost of relocating.

I am not an economist, I may be wrong, but I will put my bet on China.

I work in manufacturing and involve in transferring products between sites. Without skill workers with experience in transferring, "On time delivery" and Quality will be badly affected and accidents WILL occur. Even in the best of situation, thing WILL go wrong during transfers.
Why don’t you compare to Germany? The Germans shipped goods worth $1,500 billion overseas last year with a population that is less than Vietnam, least Indonesia. VN today export is less than $300 billion after decades of wars of deaths and destruction. I am pretty sure, with the help of Germany and Japan, Vietnam could reach export volume of $1 trillion in a decade.

Nothing remains static unchanged forever.

Vietnamese generally are not stupid. Skills and expertise can be acquired. Chinese produced bicycles now manufacture cars. Vietnam will follow the path.
 
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Why don’t you compare to Germany? The Germans shipped goods worth $1,500 billion overseas last year with a population that is less than Vietnam, least Indonesia. VN today export is less than $300 billion after decades of wars of deaths and destruction. I am pretty sure, with the help of Germany and Japan, Vietnam could reach export volume of $1 trillion in a decade.

Nothing remains static unchanged forever.

Vietnamese generally are not stupid. Skills and expertise can be acquired. Chinese produced bicycles now manufacture cars. Vietnam will follow the path.
Bad news for German, US also put high tariff on EU car. German cant export and die like in ww2 again

in Trade war, all nations that poor resources, usless location,barren lands like German, CN and weak nations will die. US is just like Thanos of Avengers movie :cool:
 
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Bad news for German, US also put high tariff on EU car. German cant export and die like in ww2 again

in Trade war, all nations that poor resources, usless location,barren lands like German, CN and weak nations will die. US is just like Thanos of Avengers movie :cool:
Germany has an annual trade surplus of $70 BILLION usd with the U.S, while badmouthing the U.S at the same time. Are you expecting the U.S to give Germany $70 billion dollars of free money every year?
 
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US start teaching her 1979 bad dog a very hard lesson. Deng's Azz licking policy dont work any more :laugh:

before licking Jap-US azz in 1979, CN DGP merely 300 USD/year

What happened to your precious TPP? I thought it give your people jobs so your mother wouldn't have to see 10 American customers a day?
 
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