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Trump cracks down on Pakistan, U.S. cuts military training programs

"The unintended consequence was we didn't know a decade of the Pakistani military leadership as well, and therefore couldn't engage as effectively with them when we needed to," Feldman said.

They don't even hide their intentions or do they? They want to get into the minds of our officers and engage with them LOL

Make no mistake folks. This Trump guy is an absolute blessing from God. We need another Trump term after this. This orange man is on a fvcking mission.

Time has come to seriously consider ramping up the cost of the supply routes!!! If the Americans don't like our supply routes they can be gladly held hostage by Russia or Iran who would love to provide their passage LOL
 
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So, we signed agreement with Russians of training....It pissed off Trump administration and US deep state so much that they ended training of Pakistani officers.

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Its a mixed plate- as the US military personnel mentioned; this was a good way to build relationships which sometimes bear good fruit in situations we never hear about- including intel on TTP and in the past even Indian movement(remember, what the CIA wants is not always what the US Pentagon wants). The flipside is yes a lot of officers do get offered to be moles for the US intelligence services but that reflects on the character of that officer more than anything else.
 
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The flipside is yes a lot of officers do get offered to be moles for the US intelligence services but that reflects on the character of that officer more than anything else.

I dont think the risk is worth it anymore

We need to take this and be glad the U.S ended this programme because we may not have been able to
 
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I dont think the risk is worth it anymore

We need to take this and be glad the U.S ended this programme because we may not have been able to
“We” never wanted to. Military officers make a lot of money with their allowances during these deputations and so they welcome it.
 
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This is excellent news, we should celebrate it. Finally we are being cured from the cancer called America which had spread out thru the core of our establisent but eventually we sirvived.

And Mr Trump, keep your terrorist trainings to yourself, we already have a better deal with Russia. Go hug a cactus...or het some puppy jhappy from Modi.

On a serious note, Trump has been slapping cuts by cuts and we have not retaliated sofar. When are we going to close the Nato transit or heavily renegociate the fees? :meeting:
 
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Exclusive: As Trump cracks down on Pakistan, U.S. cuts military training programs

By Idrees Ali and Phil Stewart
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ReutersAugust 10, 2018
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A State Department contractor adjust a Pakistan national flag before a meeting between U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry and Pakistan's Interior Minister Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan on the sidelines of the White House Summit on Countering Violent Extremism at the State Department in Washington February 19, 2015. REUTERS/Joshua Roberts
By Idrees Ali and Phil Stewart

ISLAMABAD/WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump's administration has quietly started cutting scores of Pakistani officers from coveted training and educational programs that have been a hallmark of bilateral military relations for more than a decade, U.S. officials say.

The move, which has not been previously reported, is one of the first known impacts from Trump's decision this year to suspend U.S. security assistance to Pakistan to compel it to crack down on Islamic militants.

The Pentagon and the Pakistani military did not comment directly on the decision or the internal deliberations, but officials from both countries privately criticized the move.

U.S. officials, speaking to Reuters on the condition of anonymity, said they were worried the decision could undermine a key trust-building measure. Pakistani officials warned it could push their military to further look to China or Russia for leadership training.

The effective suspension of Pakistan from the U.S. government's International Military Education and Training program (IMET) will close off places that had been set aside for 66 Pakistani officers this year, a State Department spokesperson told Reuters.

The places will either be unfilled or given to officers from other countries.

Dan Feldman, a former U.S. special representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan, called the move "very short-sighted and myopic".

"This will have lasting negative impacts limiting the bilateral relationship well into the future," Feldman told Reuters.

The State Department spokesperson, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said the IMET cancellations were valued at $2.41 million so far. At least two other programs have also been affected, the spokesperson said.

It is unclear precisely what level of military cooperation still continues outside the IMET program, beyond the top level contacts between U.S. and Pakistani military leaders.

The U.S. military has traditionally sought to shield such educational programs from political tensions, arguing that the ties built by bringing foreign military officers to the United States pay long-term dividends.

For example, the U.S. Army's War College in Carlisle, Pennsylvania, which would normally have two Pakistani military officers per year, boasts graduates including Lieutenant General Naveed Mukhtar, the current director-general of Pakistan's powerful spy agency, the Inter-Services Intelligence agency (ISI).

The War College, the U.S. Army's premier school for foreign officers, says it has hosted 37 participants from Pakistan over the past several decades. It will have no Pakistani students in the upcoming academic year, a spokeswoman said.

Pakistan has also been removed from programs at the U.S. Naval War College, Naval Staff College and courses including cyber security studies.



"LIES AND DECEIT"

In his first tweet of 2018, Trump slammed Pakistan, saying the country has rewarded past U.S. aid with "nothing but lies & deceit." Washington announced plans in January to suspend up to roughly $2 billion in U.S. security assistance to Pakistan.

But weeks later, Pakistan's foreign secretary was quoted by local media saying that Islamabad had been told the United States would continue funding IMET programs.

Officially allies in fighting terrorism, Pakistan and the United States have a complicated relationship, bound by Washington's dependence on Pakistan to supply its troops in Afghanistan but plagued by accusations Islamabad is playing a double game.

Tensions have grown over U.S. complaints that the Afghan Taliban militants and the Haqqani network that target American troops in Afghanistan are allowed to shelter on Pakistani soil.

Current and former U.S. officials said Defense Secretary Jim Mattis argued against excluding Pakistani officers from IMET courses.

"I am shocked... We worked so hard for this to be the one thing that got saved," said a former U.S. defense official, who was involved in the conversations.

The Pentagon declined to comment on internal government discussions, but Dana White, a Pentagon spokeswoman, said Mattis long believed in the value of the IMET program as a way to build relations between foreign militaries.

Pakistani Senator Mushahid Hussain, chairman of the Senate Foreign Affairs Committee, told Reuters that a U.S. decision to cut off such exchanges would be counter-productive and push Pakistan's military towards other countries.

"It is one of those silly, punitive measures that they have deployed," said Hussain, who sat next to a Chinese and Pakistani flag in his office.

Russia and Pakistan signed an agreement earlier this week that would allow for Pakistani military officers to train at Russian institutes.

Pakistan's military has ruled the country for about half of its history and traditionally seen the country's foreign policy in its domain.

IMET courses have been able to withstand poor relations between the two countries in the past, even after al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden was killed in a U.S. Navy SEAL raid in the Pakistani town of Abbotabad in 2011.

A NATO helicopter raid killed 28 Pakistani troops later that year in a friendly fire incident on the Afghan-Pakistan border.

Feldman said that after the raid, when relations were at a low point, the United States limited large security assistance items, but made active efforts to continue the IMET program.



UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE

In the 1990's former U.S. President George H.W. Bush refused to certify that Pakistan did not have nuclear weapons, triggering the so-called "Pressler Amendment" that required cutting off all military assistance. That included IMET courses.

"The unintended consequence was we didn't know a decade of the Pakistani military leadership as well, and therefore couldn't engage as effectively with them when we needed to," Feldman said.

Mattis, in private discussions within the government, had warned that excluding Pakistani officers from IMET courses could contribute to a similar situation in years to come, the former U.S. defense official said.

Pakistan had been the largest recipient of IMET between 2003 and 2017, according to the Security Assistance Monitor which tracks U.S. assistance.

"You can advocate for cutting off everything else and this was the one thing we were not supposed to touch," the former official said.



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Excellent!!!!!!!!!!!..........Brilliant!!!!!!!!......:chilli:

I want this to continue! The americans have nothing of value to gives us anymore. america is irrelevant as far as Pakistan is concerned. Everything we need and want we can get from China. That's where the future of Pakistan lies.......americans PLEASE cut your ties with us COMPLETELY!!!!!..........:azn:.......the more the merrier..... 8-)
 
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Cut the supply line and re-open after applying $5bn per annum tarrif. They want military prescence in your back yard, make them pay for it.

Yeah in what universe did the Pakistani establishment grew a spine? If this was any other country they would be making US pay massive tariffs for using our ports & roads for their illegal war.

Everything we need and want we can get from China.

That's where I disagree, Pakistan needs to become self-reliant and stop jumping from one super power to another.
 
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Yeah in what universe did the Pakistani establishment grew a spine? If this was any other country they would be making US pay massive tariffs for using our ports & roads for their illegal war.



That's where I disagree, Pakistan needs to become self-reliant and stop jumping from one super power to another.


Agreed. But our relationship with China has already made us far more self-reliant then we were in 2001. Hopefully this continues. Nothing good ever came from us being allies with the americans.
 
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Scores of Pakistani members jumping with joy over this news but none of you understand the implications of this move.

PAK - US relations should exist at a certain level [not for our PERSONAL LIKING] but for geopolitical reasons and our survival. There must be a salvaging point.

Trump administration is making it much easier for the MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX (the greatest killer of all times) to search for next victim. This is utterly dangerous and alarming development.

Keep in mind that [God Forbid] US decide to turn on us ; WE will be ALONE. PAK - CHEEN DOSTI will not matter and make any difference. Rest of the world will watch spectacular fireworks from distance. This is the kind of world we live in. Everybody on his own.

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Conversely, this is low for even Trump administration. My opinion of Donald Trump have gone down. Imran Khan needs to do something.
 
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thanks rump we are so happy i hope you deport those whom are under training today on first flight .

Scores of Pakistani members jumping with joy over this news but none of you understand the implications of this move.

PAK - US relations should exist at a certain level [not for our PERSONAL LIKING] but for geopolitical reasons and our survival. There must be a salvaging point.

Trump administration is making it much easier for the MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX (the greatest killer of all times) to search for next victim. This is utterly dangerous and alarming development.

Keep in mind that [God Forbid] US decide to turn on us ; WE will be ALONE. PAK - CHEEN DOSTI will not matter and make any difference. Rest of the world will watch spectacular fireworks from distance. This is the kind of world we live in. Everybody on his own.

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Conversely, this is low for even Trump administration. My opinion of Donald Trump have gone down. Imran Khan needs to do something.
jaib main atom bomb daal ker aysa susu nikalty hoy kisi mulk ka nhi dekha aaj tak:lol: sandhy ka tail lo kisi hakeem se :P
 
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jaib main atom bomb daal ker aysa susu nikalty hoy kisi mulk ka nhi dekha aaj tak:lol: sandhy ka tail lo kisi hakeem se :P
Bhai, baat yeh nahin hai. Baat samajney ki hai key woh kiya soch rahein hain.

Hamari economy ka koi haal nahin hai. Woh hamary liye bahaut si difficulties create kar saktey hain.

Imran Khan got it right - we cannot prosper in the environment of hostility. He is our only hope (a blessing of Allah Almighty).

North Korea lo deikh lo waisay.
 
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