Trump calls for 'Arab NATO' aginst Iran

[drmeson]

Sectarian BS but I would reply anyways.

Do you realize something... I hope you do...But the moment Iran declare war or attack anything near to our holy cities... it's not few bearded saudis that you will see knocking on you door... you will get whatever sunni muslim you may think off... DESTROYING your door...
And Saudis knows it...

Do you realize something and I hope you do ... Iran has never declared war upon any country in modern times. Why would Iran want to invade some desert ? What would we get from it ? Our foremost political goal was to get aligned or allied govts and in region and create a militarily safe buffer zone around us and our allies. We have been successful in that so far and this will only enhance in future. Sectarian strife and hatred against us works in our favor only and I can explain how.

Iran want to rule the muslim world...and to do so...you need the holy cities... TBH if Iran attack KSA tomorrow and knows that no one will defend KSA... she will have a high chance to win in a 1on1... But she knows that it will not be the case...

Iran doesnt want to rule muslim world. It has a strong and promising grip over oppressed and endangered shiites in the region and thats that (more political). No one in Tehran want to rule medina or mecca. This is not 16th century of Shia Soltan Saffavid wedging holy war against Sunni Soltan Ozmani.

There is no muslim world btw. There is a sunni world, shia world, iranian world, kurd, turk, arab, afghan worlds etc etc .... We middle easterners are very egoistic and testosterone filled people. We have many many identities other than just basic religion. Sect, sect within sect, tribe, languages, political inclinations .... that is why we are often fighting each other regardless of common religious factors. Do you want examples ?

and we can troll each other on forums on internet but no saudi vs iran war will ever happen and thats because both countries are theocratic leaders of their faiths. Why destroy our homes when we can play ping pong against each other in other regional countries ? If you open your eyes a bit you can probably see it happening for decade now. How many bullets have been fired by Iranians against Saudis and vice versa ... compare that to how many heads each of our proxies cut when they meet each other in the region.

You can have the best tech with thousands of nukes in your arsenal... But AS for Today... no shiite ruler WILL ever get his hand on our holy cities... no sunni will accept it and they will all fight agaisnt it...whoever they are...

... thats not how politics work. You believe in slogans and what politicians say on media too much. I wont even call the current conflict in the region as a shia-sunni war.

the first who will eat you will be the Pakistanis... and them alone will be entirely simple to put an end to it...
KSA will mostly deal with shiite militia from IRAq... while Jordan/TR will be taking care with the syrians/lebanon ones...
At this stage ...not even speaking about Masr or North Africans one... or even the Indo/malays...

Same Pakistan which transferred centrifuge designs to Iran in late 80s or where Iran gets many of its Fighters from to fight them in Syria ? lol you believe in shia sunni BS too much. Iran probably has more allied shia proxy groups in pakistan then it has in Lebanon ... We may even see a joint pakistani iranian operation in Baloshistan region across both countries in future. Its similar to how some retards have been predicting a Turkey-Iranian or Israeli-Iranian war for last 15 years. Nothing is going to happen.

 

[Fafnir]

Well it is important then that Turkey makes sure its border to Iran is sealed off. The last thing europe wants is more refugees.

Wouldnt it just make more sense for europe to seal off its borders with turkey,after all thats the country that the refugees seem to be using as a transit point to get into europe

 

[Awan68]

Are you retarded ?

They scream human rights rights to the entire world n poke thier ugly noses everywhere yet a few refugees n thier true faces come out...extremist hypocrittes the lot of them.....

Sectarian BS but I would reply anyways.



Do you realize something and I hope you do ... Iran has never declared war upon any country in modern times. Why would Iran want to invade some desert ? What would we get from it ? Our foremost political goal was to get aligned or allied govts and in region and create a militarily safe buffer zone around us and our allies. We have been successful in that so far and this will only enhance in future. Sectarian strife and hatred against us works in our favor only and I can explain how.



Iran doesnt want to rule muslim world. It has a strong and promising grip over oppressed and endangered shiites in the region and thats that (more political). No one in Tehran want to rule medina or mecca. This is not 16th century of Shia Soltan Saffavid wedging holy war against Sunni Soltan Ozmani.

There is no muslim world btw. There is a sunni world, shia world, iranian world, kurd, turk, arab, afghan worlds etc etc .... We middle easterners are very egoistic and testosterone filled people. We have many many identities other than just basic religion. Sect, sect within sect, tribe, languages, political inclinations .... that is why we are often fighting each other regardless of common religious factors. Do you want examples ?

and we can troll each other on forums on internet but no saudi vs iran war will ever happen and thats because both countries are theocratic leaders of their faiths. Why destroy our homes when we can play ping pong against each other in other regional countries ? If you open your eyes a bit you can probably see it happening for decade now. How many bullets have been fired by Iranians against Saudis and vice versa ... compare that to how many heads each of our proxies cut when they meet each other in the region.



... thats not how politics work. You believe in slogans and what politicians say on media too much. I wont even call the current conflict in the region as a shia-sunni war.



Same Pakistan which transferred centrifuge designs to Iran in late 80s or where Iran gets many of its Fighters from to fight them in Syria ? lol you believe in shia sunni BS too much. Iran probably has more allied shia proxy groups in pakistan then it has in Lebanon ... We may even see a joint pakistani iranian operation in Baloshistan region across both countries in future. Its similar to how some retards have been predicting a Turkey-Iranian or Israeli-Iranian war for last 15 years. Nothing is going to happen.

Pakistan will never touch iran unless iran goes senile and decides to attack makkah medina( which iran will never do, why would they??, they love those sites as much as sunnis and have equal right to them), apart from that impossible scenario pakistan wont get involved, we have a lot of our own matters to deal with let alone get in a dick measuring contest between two mad regimes that are destroying the ME, and as for ur reqruitment of pakistani's well everything is not as it seems n i wont elaborate as i knw iran n saudis will never have the geopolitical understanding that pakistan has.....concerning those centrifuge designs among a lot of other things, u back stabbed us n gave us up hence u will never be getting anything of that caliber from us anymore n we will make sure that niether iran nor saudis ever go nuclear, not stable enough to handle the heat u see......there will be no joint venture in pakistani balochistan ever......we require no assistance in coin as we are the most succesful n experienced nation in the field in the entire region no questions asked, but we will agree to help iran in that regard if they require assistance in their baloch part....there will never be any iranian-israeli war, israelis can go nuclear without any reprecussions from the international community(they have them in their fist) n iran isnt that stupid, the only reason israelis havent gone nuclear on thier enemies uptil now using one excuse or another is pakistans nuclear capability, its emergence basically cancelled out most of their plans for ME so now thy have to resort to proxies like isis to achieve their goals..

 

[Fafnir]

When IRAN buys things from China and Russia its fine. if Saudis buys then it is going for war ..woo what a crap. they have money they r buying. if Iran have go and buy. don't blame guys. every one is trying to save their lands not like Pakistanis who said Afghans and Iranians r our bro even after getting fire and threat from them.

Could you please show us the hundreds of billions of dollars worth of russian and chinese weapons that iran has purchased,as I for one would be very interested in seeing these.....ok?

 

[Awan68]

AFAIK its "only" $110 billion. Lol. The rest are economic.

They are rapidly making changes, and we are rapidly advancing. That Emad missile you see, it's not just a missile. It's a warhead. And to me it looks like an upgrade program for all Iran's MRBMs.

Bavar will be made in significant numbers to replace those old S-200s. Talash will replace the upgraded Hawks.

The armoured forces are expecting the Karrar. The infantry will get new assault rifles, and if you look at the future soldier program it includes armoured vests and other equipment.

The navy is making another 4 Jamaran frigates right now. As well as submarines. And the Persian Gulf destroyer is in the works.

The only thing lacking is the air force; but its possible we simply don't know about the advances there.

Every branch of the military has to be upgraded, and every branch is working on it with promising projects.

Projects take decades , prototypes n full productions units are two poles of earth.

The only way out for iran is diplomacy, i knw the saudis are bastards but they are bastards with even bigger bastards behind them if u knw what i mean, so abandon ur proxies in ME, start normalizing relations with the west, open ur country for sn industrial n economic boom, get acess to defence techs nt available to u right now.

Sams are overrated, without a proper airforce u will be knocked into submission pretty quickly by the saudis alone, thier allies??? well lets not even talk about them, these "will camels fly those jets" remarks wont do in the real world...

Wake up, u threatened thier backyard yemen, they came back at u with a 40 nation coalation backed by Us, funded by over 300 bill dollars.

I dont want to see iran destroyed as i have no stomach for sects n love all muslim nations, so u people must knock some sense into ur leaders, dont give them an excuse.

i said this would happen but people on pdf disagree, see pak is to be taken for a ride to be bogged down and used against iran who is also a neighbour and ahem india wants to use all her might and deception to destroy pak.

we must not end up like iraq. fcuk the saudis. leave now.
saudis supported saddam then dumped him while iran used this opportunity to help usa destroy iraq total resistance, now iraq is iranian province.

keep eye on bolochistan and azad kashmir.
out of desperation iran can turn against pak by tagging with india.

Getur historical spectacle out mate, pakistan gets used by nobody, they just think they are using us....perfect example....Us invasion into afghanistan...

Do you realize something... I hope you do...But the moment Iran declare war or attack anything near to our holy cities... it's not few bearded saudis that you will see knocking on you door... you will get whatever sunni muslim you may think off... DESTROYING your door...
And Saudis knows it...

Iran want to rule the muslim world...and to do so...you need the holy cities... TBH if Iran attack KSA tomorrow and knows that no one will defend KSA... she will have a high chance to win in a 1on1... But she knows that it will not be the case...

You can have the best tech with thousands of nukes in your arsenal... But AS for Today... no shiite ruler WILL ever get his hand on our holy cities... no sunni will accept it and they will all fight agaisnt it...whoever they are...

and if War broke... Iran will not even fight against KSA... the first who will eat you will be the Pakistanis... and them alone will be entirely simple to put an end to it...
KSA will mostly deal with shiite militia from IRAq... while Jordan/TR will be taking care with the syrians/lebanon ones...
At this stage ...not even speaking about Masr or North Africans one... or even the Indo/malays...

We will eat no one unless the holy cites are directly targetted(in that case we will have a proper persian radioactive barbequee) yet iran will never be stupid enough to do that....

 

[OldTwilight]

Tillerson urges Rouhani to end ballistic missile tests
https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/205607-Tillerson-urges-Rouhani-to-end-ballistic-missile-tests



what I read is this .... Tilerson orders Rouhani to end Iran ballistic missile program and disarm Iran ....
and what will happen is this ( soon we read things like this ) :
Rouhani said : Today world is world of relation and peace no missiles ....

The Fear is brother of death .... and our people feared war , so we will lose everything ....

 

[ValerioAurelius]

Wouldnt it just make more sense for europe to seal off its borders with turkey,after all thats the country that the refugees seem to be using as a transit point to get into europe

We do, as you can see in the fact that all migrants are put into island camp of Moria. Then there is a 2nd firewall in at the greek - macedonia border. You need multiple firewalls to take pressure out of the system.

They scream human rights rights to the entire world n poke thier ugly noses everywhere yet a few refugees n thier true faces come out...extremist hypocrittes the lot of them.....


Pakistan will never touch iran unless iran goes senile and decides to attack makkah medina( which iran will never do, why would they??, they love those sites as much as sunnis and have equal right to them), apart from that impossible scenario pakistan wont get involved, we have a lot of our own matters to deal with let alone get in a dick measuring contest between two mad regimes that are destroying the ME, and as for ur reqruitment of pakistani's well everything is not as it seems n i wont elaborate as i knw iran n saudis will never have the geopolitical understanding that pakistan has.....concerning those centrifuge designs among a lot of other things, u back stabbed us n gave us up hence u will never be getting anything of that caliber from us anymore n we will make sure that niether iran nor saudis ever go nuclear, not stable enough to handle the heat u see......there will be no joint venture in pakistani balochistan ever......we require no assistance in coin as we are the most succesful n experienced nation in the field in the entire region no questions asked, but we will agree to help iran in that regard if they require assistance in their baloch part....there will never be any iranian-israeli war, israelis can go nuclear without any reprecussions from the international community(they have them in their fist) n iran isnt that stupid, the only reason israelis havent gone nuclear on thier enemies uptil now using one excuse or another is pakistans nuclear capability, its emergence basically cancelled out most of their plans for ME so now thy have to resort to proxies like isis to achieve their goals..

We dont scream human rights. We have no responsibilities for islamic world. If muslims want help, there are plenty of islamic countries they can look for help. I believe thats a reasonable approach.

 

[Awan68]

We do, as you can see in the fact that all migrants are put into island camp of Moria. Then there is a 2nd firewall in at the greek - macedonia border. You need multiple firewalls to take pressure out of the system.



We dont scream human rights. We have no responsibilities for islamic world. If muslims want help, there are plenty of islamic countries they can look for help. I believe thats a reasonable approach.

One is liable for the mess he creates, ponder on that...

 

[Attila the Hun]

Well it is important then that Turkey makes sure its border to Iran is sealed off. The last thing europe wants is more refugees.

Oh it will be my friend. It will be. The borders will be sealed of until we are back to normality(whenever that is).

 

[Max]

Same Pakistan which transferred centrifuge designs to Iran in late 80s or where Iran gets many of its Fighters from to fight them in Syria ? lol you believe in shia sunni BS too much. Iran probably has more allied shia proxy groups in pakistan then it has in Lebanon ... We may even see a joint pakistani iranian operation in Baloshistan region across both countries in future. Its similar to how some retards have been predicting a Turkey-Iranian or Israeli-Iranian war for last 15 years. Nothing is going to happen.

We gave you centrifuges to fight external aggression which you surrender shamelessly and even provide western knowledge about who provided you tech.. it was biggest mistake.

keep living in dreams, you have no proxy in Pakistan. all you will find are few hundred unarmed volunteers whom you have to train and arm just like Syria and Iraq, i am sure Pakistan will have more volunteer from Tunisia or Tajikistan if someone impose war on us then you will have from Pakistan or Afghanistan...@HannibalBarca those who are fighting in Syria and Iraq they will never be allowed to enter in Pakistan again, Meanwhile Pakistan can turn whole Sistan into Sunni Sistan if it wants. any given time. you dont know how much influential our Mullahs are in region, Afghanistan is example.

As for joint border management, well it have nothing to do with Sunni Shia, its our mutual responsibility. and in case if Iran chose to be aggressor then iran should worry about Pakistan's involvement, otherwise we are brothers.

 

[Yaseen1]

raheel shareef should not remain part of this nato if it is solely formed against iran

 

[garshasp]

The Fear is brother of death .... and our people feared war , so we will lose everything ....

We do not fear war. We just rather not escalate tensions and instead focus on improving the country first. There is huge difference. By improving the country, Iran will be stronger in the future too. Strength does not equal just testing ballistic missiles and saying death to this and that country...

 

[Muhammed45]

raheel shareef should not remain part of this nato if it is solely formed against iran

I told you guys! When i saw no resistance from USA against this alliance, it was actually managed against Iran.

The irony, USA invaded Arab world, created Israel and now has put them against Iran. In this, whole Muslim world will be destroyed and everything will be prepared for USA's dominance in Muslim world.

Iran is not weak, GCC countries have plenty of American junks, we are deterring each other. hahahhahhah USA won the game. They deserve to be the strongest nation i shall admit it. Muslims are a bunch of backward idiots killing each other and serving western interests.

I know only one thing and that is, we will not be the aggressor. But in case of defence all of the aggressors will be leveled to earth surface.

And the sad fact, Israel's safety will be ensured forever.
I hope Pakistan plays it's moderator role again, wait for destruction of Muslim world otherwise

We do not fear war. We just rather not escalate tensions and instead focus on improving the country first. There is huge difference. By improving the country, Iran will be stronger in the future too. Strength does not equal just testing ballistic missiles and saying death to this and that country...

USA is managing this alliance against us. Are you blind?

 

[Dark-Silence]

USA puts them against us by supplying them with offensive weapons while we are muscling up against USA.
Comparing Iran with a bunch of fuppet monarchies proves your lack of intelligence mate


Dear u guys r not fighting againnst usa. u all fighting against arabs in yemen and syria. so grow up. for usa u have ussr to counter.

Could you please show us the hundreds of billions of dollars worth of russian and chinese weapons that iran has purchased,as I for one would be very interested in seeing these.....ok?

HAHAA mate from planes to ship and missiles all r Russian supported and funded. open ur eyes

 

[garshasp]

USA is managing this alliance against us. Are you blind?

No I see clearly. We become a strong nation first by improving our economy. Once we have a strong economy we can invest more in military. No need to storm embassies, say death to this and that country. That is counterproductive and serves no purpose.