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Trillion Dolla India versus Failed Pakistan

I said 20,000 and plus

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1532176/wheels-karachis-buses-grind-halt/?amp=1

10 times makes sense..

https://profit.pakistantoday.com.pk/2018/07/11/cars-sell-up-21-per-cent-in-july-june-2017-18/

http://www.siamindia.com/statistics.aspx?mpgid=8&pgidtrail=14

3.28 million/ 2.16 lakh = 15.

Also this is a 2011 figure...now it must be more all vehicles...



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https://www.researchgate.net/figure...mated-total-vehicle-in-Karachi_tbl1_265909855

http://www.who.int/violence_injury_prevention/road_safety_status/2015/country_profiles/Pakistan.pdf

Total number of 4 wheeled vehicles (including LCVs/Vans) registered in Pakistan upto 2011 was only 3 million in 2011.

So rest of Pakistan only have 0.9 million cars (that's assuming zero LCVs) ?
 
I think most of you are missing the point of the thread. In South Asia I know we have shiny cities, affluent neighbourhoods many of which can match the best in the world. But let's be honest about it. Those do not represent South Asia. The vast numbers of South Asian;s live in villages and small towns. A country is described by the majority and not by the small % of elite.

The intention behind this thread was to show that the average indian town is no better then it's equivalent in Pakistan - indeed in some ways there is is less squalor and poverty in Pakistani towns. one grotesque example you can see is men pulling rickshaws which informs us about the living standards of the very poor in India.

The only question is was Amritsar wrong town as a average of India? I chose Amritsar when there hundreds of other towns in India for instance in Utter Pradesh, Bihar, Odisha, Jharkand or Indian Bengal that are arguably far more poverty stricken. I did not chose them because I would be open to the charge of 'cherrypicking'. Instead I chose Amritsar which is a primarily a Sikh town in Indian Punjab and one of more prosperous regions of India. So I did not scrape the bottom of the barrel.

In addition Amritsar is right next to Pakistani border and since Pakistan Punjab is the largest province in Pakistan it is a good way of making comparison with Pakistan. Amritsar should not be compared to Lahore or Islamabad but the average Pakistan town like Sialkot, Faisalabad, Gujranawala etc. Pick any average medium sized town. Because that is where most of Pakistan and India live.

What is pretty evident is just across the border in India the streets ae not lined with gold. Instead the conditions are pretty similar [in my impartial opinion] and possibly [in my biased opinion] worse then in Pakistan. If this is what Amritsar looks like yu can imagine what some average town in Indian Bihar or Odisha must look like.

And again the the thread is primarily meant for Pakistani's to peak across the border and then compare to their towns in Pakistan. This is the reality beyond the trillion dolla, 5th largest, Mars, rocket growth India. Numbers do not always reflect the reality.

According to FBR statistics in Pakistan not more then 500,000 Pakistani's should be able to afford a car because that is the number paying taxes. Go on the streets does it look like that? GDP figures and per capita are based on those statistics.


"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."

~ Benjamin Disraeli


Ps. Let me reiterate again please compare your average town where your average Mohammed, Mohan lives in.
 
According to FBR statistics in Pakistan not more then 500,000 Pakistani's should be able to afford a car because that is the number paying taxes. Go on the streets does it look like that? GDP figures and per capita are based on those statistics.

Care to explain how the number of cars sold can be faked ?

No, trying to compare two regions using videos is cherry picking.

Statistical data, despite it's drawbacks is the best way to compare the living standards. And we know why most Pakistanis don't do that.

The better living standards of indian Punjab is evident from the fact that IMR is far less than that of Pakistan. Will one video change this ?
 
So you believe in the stats, the facts and figures and the numbers...numbers don't lie.

This is the ultimate stats by none other than Riaz ul haq...quoting sources.



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http://www.riazhaq.com/2017/05/comparing-ownership-of-appliances-and.html

Riaz Haqs fakery won't fool anyone.

According to you, the car sales in India is 2 times per capita (12 times) so how is the percentage of population owning a car in India same as Pakistan ?



Same with refrigerators

https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/www.dawn.com/news/amp/1336597

https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Panasonic-to-muscle-into-Indian-refrigerator-production
 
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Statistical data, despite it's drawbacks is the best way to compare the living standards. And we know why most Pakistanis don't do that
According to statistical data there should be no more then 500,000 cars in all of Pakistan based on FBR statistics. The problem we have in Pakistan is mass under documentation of the economy which is why the government has problems raising revenue. That is why now attempts are being made to bring more within the net and when that happens the statistcs will begin to reflect that. Income can be hidden from the tax agencies but consumption cannot. Below is Mardan a poor non descript twon in K-Pk, one of poorer regions of Pakistan hit by terrorism of the last decade. How does it look poorer then your average Indian town? How many men do you see being used as beasts? All taxis are motor mechanized. This is typical of small town Pakistan. And note I am not posting here flashy areas of large cities but your average town in the countryside like Amritsar.

 
According to you, the car sales in India is 2 times per capita (12 times) so how is the percentage of population owning a car in India same as Pakistan ?


You can use some of your grey matter..if there is any. It has started increasing only recently in the last few years in India, for about 55-60 years of it's independence India had a Hindu rate of growth of 2-2.5 percent per year and that all adds to the cumulative slow growth if you look at the 71 year average, India has only started to outgun Pakistan since last 13 years or more and it's GDP per capita has passed Pakistan just 6 years ago...minuscule difference here.


This is the reason, Pakistan did have the cumulative growth and wealth amassed over the years...India is doing it only recently after opening the economy in N. Rao period and later under MMS economy reforms...and now.


Check the 60's, 70's figure and 80 and 2000 under Musharraf era, India was nowhere at that time...

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hard data
We do not have hard data. How easy is it to understand that vast majority of the Pakistani economy is undocumented. FBR has only 700,000 tax filers in a country of 200 million people. With such under documentation how can you have hard data? More like fuzzy data?

I am not cherry picking. You go pick any video of some small town in Pakistan if you want and then compare them with small towns in India.
 
You can use some of your grey matter..if there is any. It has started increasing only recently in the last few years, for about 55-60 years of it's independence India had a Hindu rate of growth of 2-2.5 percent per year and that all adds to the cumulative slow growth if you look at the 71 year average, India has only started to outgun Pakistan since last 13 years or more and it's GDP per capita has passed Pakistan just 6 years ago...minuscule difference here.


This is the reason, Pakistan did have the cumulative growth and wealth amassed over the years...India is doing it only recently after opening the economy in N. Rao period and later under MMS economy reforms.

Indian economy was liberalized in the 90s...
That's nearly 2 decades back. Enough time for a car to be scrapped or a refrigerator for that matter.

And we have been outdoing you, 2 times at that for some years. Do your math.

For comparison

http://www.who.int/violence_injury_prevention/road_safety_status/2015/country_profiles/Pakistan.pdf

http://www.who.int/violence_injury_prevention/road_safety_status/2015/country_profiles/India.pdf

12 times the number of 4 wheelers.

We do not have hard data. How easy it to understand that vast majority of the Pakistani economy is undocumented.

Do you know the literary rate, IMR, raterof undernourishment are measured ?
 

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