Travel Risk Map 2019: Iran as safe as the Switzerland among world's least dangerous countries

[Indus Pakistan]

Pakistanis are more obsessed with Indians than the iranian government is obsessed with Israel.

Your analogy does not fit. Iran does not have a border with Israel. Iran has not had a war with Israel. Iran does not have a territorial dispute with Israel. Pakistan has had wars 1948, 1965, 1971, 1999 with India] and territorial dispute in Kashmir where every day both armies are shooting each other as of right now. Therefore given the reality Iranian's have a obsession with Israel. In Pakistan's case there is real every day reality on the LOC in Kashmir.

But again no one actually provided proof that Pakistan is “totally safe” or refuted the claims I made. They just resorted to name calling, which is childish.

No. Nobody can actually say Pakistan is "totally safe". What with the war in Afghanistan spilling over, Baloch separatists, ethnic tensions in Karachi, sectarian terrorists and general law/order issues with mullahs throwing their weight around things in Pakistan can be hectic ~ but I must say the actual reality is exaggerated by media. Many parts of South America for instance are more dangerous then Pakistan.

This guys definitely Iranian. Every Persian I've met who's not from Iran has been an arrogant prick.

His handle "Immortal" is big clue. Shah of Iran';s elite bodyguard was "Immortals". Do we conclude the guy is monarchist?

 

[TheImmortal]

Your analogy does not fit. Iran does not have a border with Israel. Iran has not had a war with Israel. Iran does not have a territorial dispute with Israel. Pakistan has had wars 1948, 1965, 1971, 1999 with India] and territorial dispute in Kashmir where every day both armies are shooting each other as of right now. Therefore given the reality Iranian's have a obsession with Israel. In Pakistan's case there is real every day reality on the LOC in Kashmir.

I am saying why are ordinary Pakistanis so paranoid of ordinary Indians? North Korea and South Korea had a brutal war, yet the civilian populations are amicable to each other.

This logic that behind everything sucicipous is an elaborate Indian plot or spy is just as insane as those in Iran and on this board who think anything critical of their country is a Zionist or elaborate Zionist plot.

No. Nobody can actually say Pakistan is "totally safe". What with the war in Afghanistan spilling over, Baloch separatists, ethnic tensions in Karachi, sectarian terrorists and general law/order issues with mullahs throwing their weight around things in Pakistan can be hectic ~ but I must say the actual reality is exaggerated by media. Many parts of South America for instance are more dangerous then Pakistan.

Your logic is sound and I agree with your statement(s).

His handle "Immortal" is big clue. Shah of Iran';s elite bodyguard was "Immortals". Do we conclude the guy is monarchist?

Reza Shah and his son were Shah in name only. They had NO genetic lineage to the original Persian Shah’s thousands of years before them. But yes I support ancient Persia’s history.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

This logic that behind everything sucicipous is an elaborate Indian plot or spy is just as insane as those in Iran and on this board who think anything critical of their country is a Zionist or elaborate Zionist plot.

Yeh. You have a point. There is this conspiracy culture. Every action is seen as Zionist, Indian or some other plot. The more mundane like our own incompetence or failure is rarely considered which of course leads to the problems never being addressed. The narrative always is "we are best but ....".

Reza Shah and his son were Shah in name only. They had NO genetic lineage to the original Persian Shah’s thousands of years before them. But yes I support ancient Persia’s history.

Yes, I am aware of that. And I feel similar about the history of ancient Indus region including the overlap with Achaemenid Persia.

 

[Yankee-stani]

Yeh. You have a point. There is this conspiracy culture. Every action is seen as Zionist, Indian or some other plot. The more mundane like our own incompetence or failure is rarely considered which of course leads to the problems never being addressed. The narrative always is "we are best but ....".

Yes, I am aware of that. And I feel similar about the history of ancient Indus region including the overlap with Achaemenid Persia.

Consipracy culture is common in Turkey,America and all over not just Pakistan tbh

 

[YeBeWarned]

I wouldn’t go to Pakistan if someone paid me. I can see why it would be high risk country to Western tourists.

No one will pay you to go to Pakistan unless you are Black water or CIA ..
I guess we won't miss much if one Ignorant American does not Visit Pakistan

 

[Arsalan]

Pakistan is “totally safe”?

I can see why it would be high risk country to Western tourists.

I guess you wont go to a school in US either for similar reasons!

 

[Trango Towers]

Pakistan is “totally safe”?

A part of the country is run by tribal warlords with ties to terrorist groups. Terrorist attacks happen quite frequently. Other parts of Pakistan have very little security in terms of adequate law enforcement. Sunni extremists attack shiites. The country is poor and lacking proper funding (just had to get an emergency loan from Saudi Arabia).

I wouldn’t go to Pakistan if someone paid me. I can see why it would be high risk country to Western tourists.

Pakistan doesnt want inbread assholes like you. stay the f away

 

[raptor22]

Great stuff. Proof that if you focus on your internal security by having the appropriate laws, administrative system and backed by firm iron fist ~ in case of Iran the police, IRGC, Pasbaran, Basiji you can have secure safe country. And this is despite having USA, Israel, GCC, KSA trying to tear away at the country.

No success for 'foreign hands' here? Pakistani' need to learn from this.

@django @maximuswarrior @OsmanAli98 @Azadkashmir etc

First of all either you meant "Paseban" or "Pasdar" .. nothing as Pasbaran over here.
Secondly there is one more important reason than focusing on internal security which indeed has kept this country intact like a glue not now but for thousands of years despite being multiethnic country and attacked by Arabs, Romans and Mongols throughout history.

 

[Persian Gulf 1906]

First of all either you meant "Paseban" or "Pasdar" .. nothing as Pasbaran over here.

he clearly means pasdaran...

 

[Valar.]

Ofcourse it's a safe country when all the crazies are in the Govt. ruling with iron fist.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

First of all either you meant "Paseban" or "Pasdar" .. nothing as Pasbaran over here.

Typo

Secondly there is one more important reason than focusing on internal security which indeed has kept this country intact like a glue not now but for thousands of years despite being multiethnic country and attacked by Arabs, Romans and Mongols throughout history.

Which is?

 

[SQ8]

Countries with oppressive but stable regimes tend to be extremely safe(for those who don’t oppose or utter a word against the rulers) and stable

 

[Indus Pakistan]

I guess you wont go to a school in US either for similar reasons!

You will. Pen, pencil, ruler in bag and Remington Magnum in holster.

 

[doorstar]

Pakistan is rightly obsessed with survival whereas Iran like its friend India is obsessed with reviving some long dead empire from a mythical past, hence all this appetite for conquest. while chasing this mythical past and elusive future, hopefully they both end up with deserved comeuppance (if there is ever any justice in the universe, that is)

 

[Persian Gulf 1906]

Pakistan is obsessed with survival whereas Iran like its friend India is obsessed with reviving some long dead empire from a mythical past, hence all this appetite for conquest. while chasing this mythical past and elusive future, hopefully they both end up with deserved comeuppance (if there is ever any justice in the universe, that is)

yes Iran with a tiny military budget about half that of the tiny UAE's military budget and about a fifth of KSA's budget, Iran is trying to revive an empire

the level of stupidity on display is incredible.