Traditional chinese costume . We eliminate your misunderstanding of Chinese costume and hairstyle.

[sahaliyan]

I can read classical Chinese, you don't Obviously I'm more "Chinese" than you are~

Maybe his German is better than his classic Chinese,who knows

 

[Andrei]

I can read classical Chinese, you don't Obviously I'm more "Chinese" than you are~

lol, i can read traditional chinese too, and do you know? traditional chinese characters are changing in history all the time, if you want say that, i will tell you, traditional chinese character were collected in Qing Dynasty. and in ancient time people also had simple chinese, like 从 was the original chinese character, means one person follow another, means follow, but traditional chinese is 從, how to explain that? Oracle chinese is more chinese, why don't you write that? in Qin Dynasty, Qing shihuang united six countries, he considered standard Chinese characters "书同文，车同辙", chinese charater were changed already.

 

[Snomannen]

You would be partly right about Han and Manchurian people to be defined as "Chinese people" looking from todays perspective, however history moves foward, not backward. First of all it would be wrong to use Chu people or example from three kingdoms periodes as analogy, as you have certainly realized, the socalled three kingdoms were fragments of the united han empire, even regions of wu and shu have been integreted for centuries, even partly predates the han dynasty to the previous Qin kingdoms, and even in the southern wu regions with exception of the native tribes, the most settlers who called themselves Wu people during the three kingdom periodes have connection with culture of Han dynasty all the way back to the previous warring states, Most if not all of them had roots being the heirs of zhou dynasty, Wu, Shu and central plain chinese do not consider eachother as external babarians like Xianbei from the north or shanyue tribes from the south. You are probably right about the term of China "being" vague, it is quite likely that when wu and shu mentioned "China" they meant the state in central plain as being rival faction, and they wont forsake their common identity as heirs of Han dynasty.

Manchurian ancestors were natives of "further" North-East China, in fact as one of late comers to join up chinese family it wasnt until the later years of conflicts between Song and Liao dynasties when Manchurian ancestors first made their introduction, The jurchen Jin dynasty was founded on the back of their horse, true to the way of savage warriors which are to be considered by the Song as "yet another" nomadic conquerer aka. uncivilized foreign barbarians, as the Khitans of Liao were forced to take their leave. However Jurchen(as Khitans) have shown great interest in Chinese culture and put effort to make adaptions to remodel their state structure, also they got corrupted and decadent pretty fast because of all the luxury they have found here in the south. However their transformation was violently interrupted by the rise of mongolians. On the other hand the real ancestors of Manchurians were those who never left the northeast region and some who have returned with the faint idea of being the rulers of central plain. Before the rise of Manchurians under the banner of Qing dynasty they were in the process to intergrate the useful elements from the "southerners", state structure, technology and tactics, but at the same time they were still more conscious about their own identity, the real melting process did take its times.

But being a Chinese (nowadays or during the past) doesn't mean that you must be "assimilated" by Han culture (even though it would be impossible in China), Han culture is just a (major) part of Chinese culture.

 

[Andrei]

Maybe his German is better than his classic Chinese,who knows

you are wrong, i am not only good at traditional chinese, also simple chinese, and of course also english, german, and some french, russian, and also learnt some korean. so i know more than you, and i did hanfu introduce video in chinese, german, arabic, Spanish ， Portuguese version
arabic version
التاريخ الصيني-----الصين (الزي التقليدي) النسخة العربية

 

[Snomannen]

lol, i can read traditional chinese too, and do you know? traditional chinese characters are changing in history all the time, if you want say that, i will tell you, traditional chinese character were collected in Qing Dynasty. and in ancient time people also had simple chinese, like 从 was the original chinese character, means one person follow another, means follow, but traditional chinese is 從, how to explain that? Oracle chinese is more chinese, why don't you write that? in Qin Dynasty, Qing shihuang united six countries, he considered standard Chinese characters "书同文，车同辙", chinese charater were changed already.

Oh look, a "皇漢" is trying to show off himself by telling facts. How lovely~

Oh please I don't need you to tell me 1+1=2

 

[Viet]

so who give you right to against china and chinese culture? at least more than million han chinese want revival hanfu, that's why hanfu movement are all over the world now, and in malaysia especially more

Hanfu movement in Malaysia

what is the aim of "hanfu movement"?

 

[Snomannen]

Maybe his German is better than his classic Chinese,who knows

His German is okay, English? Well, I thought my English was bad before reading his posts.

 

[cnleio]

I can read classical Chinese, you don't Obviously I'm more "Chinese" than you are~

Just a kid, too young too simple too naive.

what is the aim of "hanfu movement"?

Han Chinese & Han culture return

 

[Andrei]

what is the aim of "hanfu movement"?

of course recover our own traditional culture, vietnamese have no such problem and worry? that you lost your own culture? and more and more westernized

 

[Viet]

Yes,I'm a Manchu

really? cool, a manchu here on pdf in person, the former master of han chinese

 

[Andrei]

His German is okay, English? Well, I thought my English was bad before reading his posts.

so you want compare english gramma with me? ok, fine, i wrote some mistake because i was hurry doing other things, no time to care about the english grammar. because others can understand what i mean, but it doesn't mean i can not write correct english sentences.lol ....

 

[Snomannen]

you are wrong, i am not only good at traditional chinese, also simple chinese, and of course also english, german, and some french, russian, and also learnt some korean. so i know more than you, and i did hanfu introduce video in chinese, german, arabic, Spanish ， Portuguese version
arabic version
التاريخ الصيني-----الصين (الزي التقليدي) النسخة العربية

Your videos, no matter how many language versions you have made, are even worse than those hanfu bachelor thesis (or even baidukaiku "Chinese Wikipedia") I have found on the internet, at least they put some reference and sources on their paper. Your videos are nothing about a bunch of nonsense which can only attract people who doesn't have enough IQ to criticize stuffs.

 

[Speeder 2]

There is NO "China". And there are no "Chinese".

"China" is a name given by Westerners in English. Any educated "Chinese" (should be called Huaren) onverseas should choose occasions to deny the existence of a name called "China".

"China, blah blah"

"Excuse me?"

It's Middle Kingdom, or "Zhonghua", or "Huaxia".

It has been the land of mainly Han Chinese since the ancient time.

The Han, also called "Huaren", are the cultural, economical and technological core of the land, always have been.

ALL historically Han -ruled dynasty had been the #1 in the world economically, culturally and technologically, without an exception. And being the #1 by a long shot.


However, there is also "China".

"China" is what the English /Westerners call tableware, strictly speaking it's a derogatory term to Huaxia.

I don't buy Qin'a = China explaination.

"China" refers to the land that has been ruled by all rulers including the Han, the Mongols (Yuan Dynasty) , the Manchus (Qing), and CPC which I don't consider as Han-ruled but aliens in both mthodology and practice.

Historically, ALL non-Han-ruled dynasties, namely Yuan and Qing, even though they were eventually Sinonized, brought untold economical, technological and cultural disasters and miseries to the Middle Kingdom.

One of the major reasons of "century of humiliation" of the Middle Kingdom is Qing:

Middle Kingdom under Qing failed to carry on industrial revolution as Western Europe and even backwater Japan did at a time, despite the fact that "at the eve of England's industrial revolution, China's markets were much more advanced and sophisticated than anything in Western Europe" ( by Adam Smith) ... The Middle Kingdom stagnated on GDP/per cap literally for 2 centuries and dropped from being world's best to being one of the world's poorest as the direct consequence. The following mis-rule of CPC has furthered the humiliation.


Both "China" and Taiwan should change their official names into:

People's Republic of Zhonghua/Huaxia, and

Republic of Zhonghua/Huaxia.

 

[Viet]

of course recover our own traditional culture, vietnamese have no such problem and worry? that you lost your own culture? and more and more westernized

to tell you the truth. ancient Vietnam hated the Qing rulers. We disliked the Manchus. China under the Ming was considered the real China. it is good that you return to the root
as for Vietnam, our emperors and officials wore Ming style dress, not from the Manchus.

 

[Snomannen]

so you want compare english gramma with me? ok, fine, i wrote some mistake because i was hurry doing other things, no time to care about the english grammar. because others can understand what i mean, but it doesn't mean i can not write correct english sentences.lol ....

You know what, I don't think that you are even typing in English anymore. I think you have just invented a whole new language. I shall call it "Huanghanese".

There is NO China.

China is a name given by Westerners in English. Any educated Chinese onverseas should choose occasions to deny the existence of a name called "China".

"China, blah blah"

"Excuse me?"

It's Middle Kingdom, or "Zhonghua", or "Huaxia".

It has been the land of mainly Han Chinese since the ancient time.

Han Chinese, also called "Huaren", are the cultural, economical and technological core of the land, always have been.

ALL historically Han Chinese-ruled dynasty had been the #1 in the world economically, culturally and technologically, without an exception. And being the #1 by a long shot.


However, there is also "China".

"China" is what the English /Westerners call tableware, strictly speaking it's a derogatory term to Huaxia.

I don't buy Qin'a = China explaination.

"China" refers to the land that has been ruled by all rulers including the Han, the Mongols (Yuan Dynasty) , the Manchus (Qing), and CPC which I don't consider as Han-ruled but aliens in both mthodology and practice.

Historically, ALL non-Han-ruled dynasties, namely Yuan and Qing, even though they were eventually Sinonized, brought untold economical, technological and cultural disasters and miseries to the Middle Kingdom.

One of the major reasons of China's "century of humiliation" is Qing:

Middle Kingdom under Qing failed to carry on industrial revolution as Western Europe and even backwater Japan did at a time, despite the fact that "at the eve of England's industrial revolution, China's market was much more advanced and sophisticated than anywhere in Western Europe" ( by Adam Smith) ... China stagnated on GDP/per cap literally for 2 centuries and dropped from being world's best to being one of the world's poorest as the direct consequence. The following mis-rule of CPC has furthered the humiliation.


Both "China" and Taiwan should change their official names into:

People's Republic of Zhonghua/Huaxia, and

Republic of Zhonghua/Huaxia.

Huaxia sounds actually pretty good.