You didn't have to split the post like this, I wasn't arguing with you. But for the sake of continuity, I'll split the quotes so the reply remains relevant.
Its not really making history when PPP and PMLN are taking turns 1 to so called build followed by the destroyer only for the builder to come back and build again (in both process money goes missing) ...I dont know about you but to me that sounds like a business strategy.....
This PPP, PMLN musical chairs thing is a hallmark of the 90's. And the reason it continues today is very simple, we can all give a hand to Mushy for that one. He uprooted the system, and put us back 20 years, now we're still in the 90's. And hopefully well live it through.
I can say one thing for certain, if elections and democracy continue in a healthy way, PPP and PMLN will either change to become better or die in Pakistan of the 90's, they'll be forgotten.
You see some parties read that as it is ok to stay ideal while the world moves on and the next party gets plenty to catch up with....One really cant evaluate much...
The day we shed our thick skin based on province or ethnicity will be the day we will make our 1st step!
I hate every wrong every party does...I appreciate KPK coz they are helping an overly neglected province and working from scratch without experience THAT is impressive for me....
If the same was done in Baluchistan by PMLN - I would be equally impressed...
However, PMLN only working on Punjab specifically Lahore- thank god they understood and moved...but southern bit needs more than roads ....If SS cant help em, I suggest make it a separate province and let someone else help em! Hording isnt helping Pakistan as a whole....
and federal govt ignoring FATA like it doesnt exist is saddening...
I don't agree that PMLN at a federal level is Lahore specific. Their government, and their party as provincial government ought to be separated. It's far too easy to look at PMLN's wider network of work, or incompetence and shortcomings and assign them to whichever convenient conclusion, but one should be carefull not to mix their work on a provincial level which is obviously Punjab centric and more Lahore centric and their work as a federal government, which I'm yet to see much indication of that being Lahore centric.
Some members in fact, tried to argue this for the new PCEC projects, and said this exact thing, I debunked this myth thoroughly in a thread in senior's cafe.
Also, you are right however, that Punjab and Lahore compared to other parts of Pakistan are far more developed, there are a multitude of reasons for that, part of that is wrong doing on the elite and industrialists of the province. However, so are the shortcomings of the province. It is also true that allowing all blame to fall upon this group is dishonest. For example, can SS and NS, and Punjab's representatives be blamed for the lack of development and mismanagement in interior Sindh? Or is it primarily the fault of the PPP and the idiots that vote for them.
I would agree in this assessment however, that if the above is the case, then most provincial matters are also to be blamed on federal governments, how much and which kind depends on the issue.
But still, the assessment should never be so simple.
God gave us free will we seem to be abusing it.....Being a Muslim means bowing to the will of god, sadly many are bowing to money over anything....
Pakistanis were denied to exercise their will by successive dictators, that's no excuse for the stupidity and laziness of the common man, but an important factor when considering the problem of Pakistan's historic political parties, and the short comings of the civilian institutions.
INSHALLAH...it was something that was much needed and necessary...I am still surprised how all these random shootings, bombing and whatnot never targeted those which can easily be defined as kafir for they suck on blood (i.e. mainstream politicians)
Sadly Pakistanis learn by doing, but I'd avenge even the most corrupt politician if his death were dealt outside the law. And I'd rather see even the APS terrorists put through the courts than killed in the field.
Pakistan's institutions need to be as strong as can be.
I hope it stays to a few...I have a feeling it wont be...not until they sentence Zardari for every crime he did....and open the Swiss bank stuff...
Swiss banks stuff is gone, forget it. By all law, outside our own, it is no longer our money.
Now those that put it there should be tried. But, as for your point about how long before the system shows promise, not even the wisest can guess exactly, but if I were to guess, I'd say safely within our lifetimes, as in, within mine and your lifetime, we'll see Pakistan rise.
Also, in terms of governance alone, I've come across many Pakistani, British Pakistani students, graduates, businessmen here who show promise. For example, I know some economics grads aspiring for the role of the betterment of their nation. A few in particular, all of them Oxford economics grads, a few PhD students, and one Masters who specialised in developmental economics. Each those guys devoted to their country and the most honest, hard working and competent people I know. We have a bright future if people like that are still around.
